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And every person prosecuted unfairly on this BS is in pain too, as are their families

Then don't do the crime. If they have been prosecuted and been found guilty, that is our system.

When the jury doesn’t have all the information, it’s a huge problem. You and I both know that. I’m just the one who believes in fair trials, not you

No jury is presented with 44,000 or 14,000 hours of videotape. By the prosecution or the defense.

Defense should have what the prosecution has. If Pelosi withheld anything, that’s on the Dems

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Anonymous wrote:So… if I rob a bank, and the police are there and don’t stop me as I do it… does that mean I didn’t commit a crime?
Serious question.

Robbing a bank is a crime. Being shown around the Capitol by police is not.

But defecating on the Capitol floors and smearing it around IS a crime. Smashing windows and destroying other people’s offices and causing tens of thousands of dollars in damage that we, the taxpayers, have to pay, IS a crime. Attacking police officers so they lose body parts IS a crime.

Right?

We are talking about the Shaman. Did he do these things?

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Anonymous wrote:They arrested and jailed that guy for being escorted throughout the Capitol by the police. There’s something seriously wrong with all of this.

I know. What reasonable person WOULDN’T think he was just taking a tour in that environment. /s/

JFC dude.

Doesn’t matter. If an officer is escorting you around, it’s reasonable to think it’s all ok.

Uh, no, if you break into a building and a police officer follows you but does not tackle you, that doesn't make it okay.

Reasonable? Are you 10?

So you maintain the officer knew he broke the law and was simply following him, knowing there were cameras everywhere?

Maintain what? He was arrested, charged, and convicted. All without being tackled!

That's how our system works.

Again, if the evidence was withheld, no, it’s not how our system works. That video should have been handed to the defense by prosecution.

The videos that Carlson showed were shown to the defense and the prosecution. He didn't put up new stuff - he hasn't gone through 44,000 hours of videos to find any gotcha stuff because that's a tremendous amount of footage and the gotcha footage has already been by the J6 committee.

The prosecution, with their many, many lawyers, knew that video existed and deliberately withheld it from defense.

What is your evidence that anything relevant was withheld?

Crickets....

Was it presented at trial to the jury?

So you have no evidence at all for your wild accusations.

It was not. Can you provide evidence that video was shown to the jury please?

I don't know what video you are talking about. There are lots of reasons a video might be not be shown to a jury. Defense counsel may not have wanted to. Or maybe they didn't find it. Or maybe the judge ruled it was not admissible. Even if this video that you haven't identified wasn't shown to the jury, it doesn't mean it wasn't made available to defense counsel.

I think they are talking about the video of the 'shaman". i have no idea if the defense had it or if they did, whether it was shown to the jury. It is possible that they do not have it.

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Anonymous wrote:They arrested and jailed that guy for being escorted throughout the Capitol by the police. There’s something seriously wrong with all of this.

I know. What reasonable person WOULDN’T think he was just taking a tour in that environment. /s/

JFC dude.

Doesn’t matter. If an officer is escorting you around, it’s reasonable to think it’s all ok.

Uh, no, if you break into a building and a police officer follows you but does not tackle you, that doesn't make it okay.

Reasonable? Are you 10?

So you maintain the officer knew he broke the law and was simply following him, knowing there were cameras everywhere?

Maintain what? He was arrested, charged, and convicted. All without being tackled!

That's how our system works.

Again, if the evidence was withheld, no, it’s not how our system works. That video should have been handed to the defense by prosecution.

The videos that Carlson showed were shown to the defense and the prosecution. He didn't put up new stuff - he hasn't gone through 44,000 hours of videos to find any gotcha stuff because that's a tremendous amount of footage and the gotcha footage has already been by the J6 committee.

The prosecution, with their many, many lawyers, knew that video existed and deliberately withheld it from defense.

What is your evidence that anything relevant was withheld?

Crickets....

Was it presented at trial to the jury?

So you have no evidence at all for your wild accusations.

It was not. Can you provide evidence that video was shown to the jury please?

I don't know what video you are talking about. There are lots of reasons a video might be not be shown to a jury. Defense counsel may not have wanted to. Or maybe they didn't find it. Or maybe the judge ruled it was not admissible. Even if this video that you haven't identified wasn't shown to the jury, it doesn't mean it wasn't made available to defense counsel.

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Anonymous wrote:So… if I rob a bank, and the police are there and don’t stop me as I do it… does that mean I didn’t commit a crime?
Serious question.

Robbing a bank is a crime. Being shown around the Capitol by police is not.

But defecating on the Capitol floors and smearing it around IS a crime. Smashing windows and destroying other people’s offices and causing tens of thousands of dollars in damage that we, the taxpayers, have to pay, IS a crime. Attacking police officers so they lose body parts IS a crime.

Right?

We are talking about the Shaman. Did he do these things?

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Anonymous wrote:They arrested and jailed that guy for being escorted throughout the Capitol by the police. There’s something seriously wrong with all of this.

I know. What reasonable person WOULDN’T think he was just taking a tour in that environment. /s/

JFC dude.

Doesn’t matter. If an officer is escorting you around, it’s reasonable to think it’s all ok.

Uh, no, if you break into a building and a police officer follows you but does not tackle you, that doesn't make it okay.

Reasonable? Are you 10?

So you maintain the officer knew he broke the law and was simply following him, knowing there were cameras everywhere?

Maintain what? He was arrested, charged, and convicted. All without being tackled!

That's how our system works.

Again, if the evidence was withheld, no, it’s not how our system works. That video should have been handed to the defense by prosecution.

The videos that Carlson showed were shown to the defense and the prosecution. He didn't put up new stuff - he hasn't gone through 44,000 hours of videos to find any gotcha stuff because that's a tremendous amount of footage and the gotcha footage has already been by the J6 committee.

The prosecution, with their many, many lawyers, knew that video existed and deliberately withheld it from defense.

What is your evidence that anything relevant was withheld?

Crickets....

Was it presented at trial to the jury?

So you have no evidence at all for your wild accusations.

It was not. Can you provide evidence that video was shown to the jury please?

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Anonymous wrote:They arrested and jailed that guy for being escorted throughout the Capitol by the police. There’s something seriously wrong with all of this.

I know. What reasonable person WOULDN’T think he was just taking a tour in that environment. /s/

JFC dude.

Doesn’t matter. If an officer is escorting you around, it’s reasonable to think it’s all ok.

Uh, no, if you break into a building and a police officer follows you but does not tackle you, that doesn't make it okay.

Reasonable? Are you 10?

So you maintain the officer knew he broke the law and was simply following him, knowing there were cameras everywhere?

Maintain what? He was arrested, charged, and convicted. All without being tackled!

That's how our system works.

Again, if the evidence was withheld, no, it’s not how our system works. That video should have been handed to the defense by prosecution.

The videos that Carlson showed were shown to the defense and the prosecution. He didn't put up new stuff - he hasn't gone through 44,000 hours of videos to find any gotcha stuff because that's a tremendous amount of footage and the gotcha footage has already been by the J6 committee.

The prosecution, with their many, many lawyers, knew that video existed and deliberately withheld it from defense.

What is your evidence that anything relevant was withheld?

Let’s say the Feds had no idea that footage existed. Now they do. New trial?

That's not the question. You keep saying it was deliberately withheld. What's your evidence of that? DOJ created a huge database for January 6 and let the defendants lawyers have full access to it. It included tons of video. So what is your evidence that they didn't get any relevant video?

Do they have the same manpower to go through it? Did the prosecution know that video existed? If the prosecution had evidence in video format that could be exculpatory, that should also be provided to the defense.

I'm sure they did not have the same manpower. So what? They were given access to all of the material evidence, including material exculpatory evidence, in a gigantic discovery database. Those are the facts and it complied with the law.

The morality of the left Your best day as a prosecutor should be the day you turn over evidence that clears a man or woman.

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And every person prosecuted unfairly on this BS is in pain too, as are their families

Then don't do the crime. If they have been prosecuted and been found guilty, that is our system.

When the jury doesn’t have all the information, it’s a huge problem. You and I both know that. I’m just the one who believes in fair trials, not you

No jury is presented with 44,000 or 14,000 hours of videotape. By the prosecution or the defense.

Defense should have what the prosecution has. If Pelosi withheld anything, that’s on the Dems

That's not what the law is. Don't like it, complain to SCOTUS who came up with Brady.

So your position is that hiding exculpatory evidence is a moral position? If a black man is accused of murder and evidence surfaces showing that man far away from the location of the murder at the time, it should be hidden from defense?

Where did I say that? In any case, there is zero evidence at all that any exculpatory evidence (material or otherwise) was hidden. You've been asked a half dozen times for it, and you've produced nothing because there is none.

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Anonymous wrote:They arrested and jailed that guy for being escorted throughout the Capitol by the police. There’s something seriously wrong with all of this.

I know. What reasonable person WOULDN’T think he was just taking a tour in that environment. /s/

JFC dude.

Doesn’t matter. If an officer is escorting you around, it’s reasonable to think it’s all ok.

Uh, no, if you break into a building and a police officer follows you but does not tackle you, that doesn't make it okay.

Reasonable? Are you 10?

So you maintain the officer knew he broke the law and was simply following him, knowing there were cameras everywhere?

Maintain what? He was arrested, charged, and convicted. All without being tackled!

That's how our system works.

Again, if the evidence was withheld, no, it’s not how our system works. That video should have been handed to the defense by prosecution.

The videos that Carlson showed were shown to the defense and the prosecution. He didn't put up new stuff - he hasn't gone through 44,000 hours of videos to find any gotcha stuff because that's a tremendous amount of footage and the gotcha footage has already been by the J6 committee.

The prosecution, with their many, many lawyers, knew that video existed and deliberately withheld it from defense.

What is your evidence that anything relevant was withheld?

Crickets....

Was it presented at trial to the jury?

So you have no evidence at all for your wild accusations.

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Anonymous wrote:So… if I rob a bank, and the police are there and don’t stop me as I do it… does that mean I didn’t commit a crime?
Serious question.

Robbing a bank is a crime. Being shown around the Capitol by police is not.

But defecating on the Capitol floors and smearing it around IS a crime. Smashing windows and destroying other people’s offices and causing tens of thousands of dollars in damage that we, the taxpayers, have to pay, IS a crime. Attacking police officers so they lose body parts IS a crime.

Right?

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And every person prosecuted unfairly on this BS is in pain too, as are their families

Then don't do the crime. If they have been prosecuted and been found guilty, that is our system.

When the jury doesn’t have all the information, it’s a huge problem. You and I both know that. I’m just the one who believes in fair trials, not you

No jury is presented with 44,000 or 14,000 hours of videotape. By the prosecution or the defense.

Defense should have what the prosecution has. If Pelosi withheld anything, that’s on the Dems

That's not what the law is. Don't like it, complain to SCOTUS who came up with Brady.

So your position is that hiding exculpatory evidence is a moral position? If a black man is accused of murder and evidence surfaces showing that man far away from the location of the murder at the time, it should be hidden from defense?

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Anonymous wrote:They arrested and jailed that guy for being escorted throughout the Capitol by the police. There’s something seriously wrong with all of this.

I know. What reasonable person WOULDN’T think he was just taking a tour in that environment. /s/

JFC dude.

Doesn’t matter. If an officer is escorting you around, it’s reasonable to think it’s all ok.

Uh, no, if you break into a building and a police officer follows you but does not tackle you, that doesn't make it okay.

Reasonable? Are you 10?

So you maintain the officer knew he broke the law and was simply following him, knowing there were cameras everywhere?

Maintain what? He was arrested, charged, and convicted. All without being tackled!

That's how our system works.

Again, if the evidence was withheld, no, it’s not how our system works. That video should have been handed to the defense by prosecution.

The videos that Carlson showed were shown to the defense and the prosecution. He didn't put up new stuff - he hasn't gone through 44,000 hours of videos to find any gotcha stuff because that's a tremendous amount of footage and the gotcha footage has already been by the J6 committee.

The prosecution, with their many, many lawyers, knew that video existed and deliberately withheld it from defense.

What is your evidence that anything relevant was withheld?

Let’s say the Feds had no idea that footage existed. Now they do. New trial?

That's not the question. You keep saying it was deliberately withheld. What's your evidence of that? DOJ created a huge database for January 6 and let the defendants lawyers have full access to it. It included tons of video. So what is your evidence that they didn't get any relevant video?

Do they have the same manpower to go through it? Did the prosecution know that video existed? If the prosecution had evidence in video format that could be exculpatory, that should also be provided to the defense.

I'm sure they did not have the same manpower. So what? They were given access to all of the material evidence, including material exculpatory evidence, in a gigantic discovery database. Those are the facts and it complied with the law.