Anonymous
02/19/2023 12:31
Subject: VT this Friday?
Is Salisbury a public? At quick glance, Vrginia may have the ONLY public schools that ED.
https://blog.prepscholar.com/early-decision-schools-and-colleges-complete-list
https://blog.prepscholar.com/early-decision-schools-and-colleges-complete-list
Anonymous
02/19/2023 12:24
Subject: Re:VT this Friday?
UT guarantees admission but not to specific programs. PP is correct, high stat kids who really want VT, especially for CS and engineering, need to ED. Whining after the fact that VT is their first choice is silly if their strategy for applications doesn't reflect that. VT doesn't want to be a safety.Many states like UT Austin also guarantee admission to in state high stats kids.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 12:17
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(I’ve posted earlier in this thread. Not sure why I’m so engaged by this.)
Losing in-state high achievers who truly want VT seems wrong. Accepting more first gen state residents seems right. Yield from acceptances to VT is relatively low. How do they get this right if they are clearly not first choice for so many of the people “shocked” not to get in?
Agree with previous poster: there’s no advantage in driving away in-state high achievers who do want to attend.
What process solves this?
ED solves this. High stats kids who *really* want to go to VT should apply ED. Those complaining about rejections did not.
Virginia is the only state where public schools have ED. Sounds like the VT position is high stats in state kids should not apply to UVA or other schools if they want to get into VT. But they are more okay for slightly lower stats in state kids to apply to multiple schools. Okay seems hard to justify that as a fair transparent way to serve the state. It also seems a little defeatist.
Virginia isn’t even close to being the only stare where public universities have ED.
Which others? Most have EA.
Bumping because curious about this.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 12:16
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many high stats kids do want VT because of the in state cost savings. It’s not okay to yield protect in state kids.
Then apply ED and stop complaining.
Agree. Apply ED instate to either UVA or VT whichever is your first choice and stop complaining and saying oh that was my first choice after decisions come out.
That is a dumb argument. High stats kids have to burn their one ED shot or get shut out of their state university because the school will yield protect against over qualified kids potentially rejecting them? Many states like UT Austin also guarantee admission to in state high stats kids.
UT Austin guarantees admission to students in top 6 percent class but does NOT guarantee major, so a number of kids are placed in major they don't want. Also, kids from high performing schools can have high stats but are shut out because not in top 6 percent of their class.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 12:12
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many high stats kids do want VT because of the in state cost savings. It’s not okay to yield protect in state kids.
Then apply ED and stop complaining.
Agree. Apply ED instate to either UVA or VT whichever is your first choice and stop complaining and saying oh that was my first choice after decisions come out.
That is a dumb argument. High stats kids have to burn their one ED shot or get shut out of their state university because the school will yield protect against over qualified kids potentially rejecting them? Many states like UT Austin also guarantee admission to in state high stats kids.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 11:32
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many high stats kids do want VT because of the in state cost savings. It’s not okay to yield protect in state kids.
Then apply ED and stop complaining.
Agree. Apply ED instate to either UVA or VT whichever is your first choice and stop complaining and saying oh that was my first choice after decisions come out.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 10:55
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(I’ve posted earlier in this thread. Not sure why I’m so engaged by this.)
Losing in-state high achievers who truly want VT seems wrong. Accepting more first gen state residents seems right. Yield from acceptances to VT is relatively low. How do they get this right if they are clearly not first choice for so many of the people “shocked” not to get in?
Agree with previous poster: there’s no advantage in driving away in-state high achievers who do want to attend.
What process solves this?
ED solves this. High stats kids who *really* want to go to VT should apply ED. Those complaining about rejections did not.
Virginia is the only state where public schools have ED. Sounds like the VT position is high stats in state kids should not apply to UVA or other schools if they want to get into VT. But they are more okay for slightly lower stats in state kids to apply to multiple schools. Okay seems hard to justify that as a fair transparent way to serve the state. It also seems a little defeatist.
Virginia isn’t even close to being the only stare where public universities have ED.
Which others? Most have EA.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 10:55
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(I’ve posted earlier in this thread. Not sure why I’m so engaged by this.)
Losing in-state high achievers who truly want VT seems wrong. Accepting more first gen state residents seems right. Yield from acceptances to VT is relatively low. How do they get this right if they are clearly not first choice for so many of the people “shocked” not to get in?
Agree with previous poster: there’s no advantage in driving away in-state high achievers who do want to attend.
What process solves this?
ED solves this. High stats kids who *really* want to go to VT should apply ED. Those complaining about rejections did not.
Virginia is the only state where public schools have ED. Sounds like the VT position is high stats in state kids should not apply to UVA or other schools if they want to get into VT. But they are more okay for slightly lower stats in state kids to apply to multiple schools. Okay seems hard to justify that as a fair transparent way to serve the state. It also seems a little defeatist.
Virginia isn’t even close to being the only stare where public universities have ED.
Name some. I may be missing some podunk schools who do this but I can’t think of any major public universities outside Virginia who have Early Decision.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 10:54
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(I’ve posted earlier in this thread. Not sure why I’m so engaged by this.)
Losing in-state high achievers who truly want VT seems wrong. Accepting more first gen state residents seems right. Yield from acceptances to VT is relatively low. How do they get this right if they are clearly not first choice for so many of the people “shocked” not to get in?
Agree with previous poster: there’s no advantage in driving away in-state high achievers who do want to attend.
What process solves this?
ED solves this. High stats kids who *really* want to go to VT should apply ED. Those complaining about rejections did not.
Virginia is the only state where public schools have ED. Sounds like the VT position is high stats in state kids should not apply to UVA or other schools if they want to get into VT. But they are more okay for slightly lower stats in state kids to apply to multiple schools. Okay seems hard to justify that as a fair transparent way to serve the state. It also seems a little defeatist.
Virginia isn’t even close to being the only stare where public universities have ED.
It is much more prevalent in VA than other states.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 10:16
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(I’ve posted earlier in this thread. Not sure why I’m so engaged by this.)
Losing in-state high achievers who truly want VT seems wrong. Accepting more first gen state residents seems right. Yield from acceptances to VT is relatively low. How do they get this right if they are clearly not first choice for so many of the people “shocked” not to get in?
Agree with previous poster: there’s no advantage in driving away in-state high achievers who do want to attend.
What process solves this?
ED solves this. High stats kids who *really* want to go to VT should apply ED. Those complaining about rejections did not.
Virginia is the only state where public schools have ED. Sounds like the VT position is high stats in state kids should not apply to UVA or other schools if they want to get into VT. But they are more okay for slightly lower stats in state kids to apply to multiple schools. Okay seems hard to justify that as a fair transparent way to serve the state. It also seems a little defeatist.
Virginia isn’t even close to being the only stare where public universities have ED.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 10:07
Subject: Re:VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.
Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.
So Tech passes on the kid who could well be a NMS and 4.5 W gpa?
I think that’s nuts, whatever the major, ED or not.
On the bright side, I guess this increases the chances for my lower stats kid.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 10:04
Subject: Re:VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.
Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.
That is nuts. Where else did they apply?
This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.
Precisely this. Why does no one complain when W&M does exactly the same thing? If you don't apply ED, you have a much lower chance of getting in. Why? Because they know you're not their first choice. Makes sense to me.
W&M does not do the same thing.
+1
Anonymous
02/19/2023 10:03
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:(I’ve posted earlier in this thread. Not sure why I’m so engaged by this.)
Losing in-state high achievers who truly want VT seems wrong. Accepting more first gen state residents seems right. Yield from acceptances to VT is relatively low. How do they get this right if they are clearly not first choice for so many of the people “shocked” not to get in?
Agree with previous poster: there’s no advantage in driving away in-state high achievers who do want to attend.
What process solves this?
ED solves this. High stats kids who *really* want to go to VT should apply ED. Those complaining about rejections did not.
Virginia is the only state where public schools have ED. Sounds like the VT position is high stats in state kids should not apply to UVA or other schools if they want to get into VT. But they are more okay for slightly lower stats in state kids to apply to multiple schools. Okay seems hard to justify that as a fair transparent way to serve the state. It also seems a little defeatist.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 10:01
Subject: Re:VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.
Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.
That is nuts. Where else did they apply?
This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.
Precisely this. Why does no one complain when W&M does exactly the same thing? If you don't apply ED, you have a much lower chance of getting in. Why? Because they know you're not their first choice. Makes sense to me.
W&M does not do the same thing.
Not the point. W&M does not reject high stats kids simply to protect their yield
Of course they do. They make it very clear that ED is given a big boost. If you don’t apply ED, chances are good you won’t be accepted. Many universities do this.
Anonymous
02/19/2023 08:47
Subject: VT this Friday?
Anonymous wrote:No other VA school is quite as unpredictable as Tech. After they overenrolled in 2019, they have been trying to stabilize yield since they grossly underestimated and famously had to put freshmen in hotels. That has led to accepting lower stats kids because they felt more comfortable that they'd attend and WL high stat kids. That is just a fact, ask any college counselor familiar with the school.
This. I think it's smarmy that they don't admit that's what's going on. The other factor for kids who aren't obviously high above the profile is the short-answer questions. They care a lot about those. I heard an interview with one of their admissions people a while ago where they talked about how important they are in the process and said service especially is a core value at VT (it is their motto).