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Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

Maybe I’m failing at reading comprehension, but I don’t understand this. You weren’t supporting them to get your kid in, but if you’re kid doesn’t get in, you’ll stop supporting them?

I read it as they are no longer giving personal contributions. I did the same when my Ivy didn’t accept my high stats kid. No reason to send that money there anymore. There are greater needs in the world. Like Turkey

We are oos and the only kids locally who have been admitted thus far are legacies. It’s pretty well known the UVA treats oos legacy as in state applicants which is a considerable advantage.

My own college, which is private, dropped all legacies preferences a few years ago. It definitely has impacted by willingness to donate.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people should keep in mind that just like posts about income and weight, these posts are self-selecting. College confidential (and UVA’s own stats) speak to what the actual admitted applicant pool looks like (which is still highly selective but clearly doesn’t require a 1550 SAT).

I am so sorry high stat kids got deferred.

People forget that admissions are holistic, stats are a threshold, not determinative. I do think UVA likely has a very good odea about the extent of grade inflation at VA,DC, and MD schools.

Please spare everyone the holistic admission speech. Admissions are random makes more sense than saying the process is holistic. I however understand we like to believe in tooth fairy and Santa Claus.

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Anonymous wrote:Are anybody looking at these numbers and then claiming that William and Mary is just as selective as UVA is kidding themselves.

Public numbers show that UVA has an overall 20-ish% acceptance rate and W&M something like 33-37%. I don't have internal numbers for Fall 2022, though.
UMD surprised everyone by getting to 34% acceptance rate this year, down from its usual 45-ish%, due to a glut of applicants.
They all favor their in-state and early action or early decision applicants to varying degrees.

2023 Virginia resident
UVA EA DEFERRED
W&M RD "Postcard"
UMD EA Direct admit to CS

Maryland doesn’t favor in state applicants as much as other states,

Because it’s a less popular school nationwide and attracts a smaller percentage of out of state applicants. It can’t afford to be as picky.

Historically yes. But there were strong instate applicants this year who were rejected who would not have been on years past.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

Why do you keep saying this? Your student can chose to withdraw from the deferred pool if they want.

Anonymous wrote:I can also say that Legacy means nothing at UVA. We support the school for the wonderful experience that my wife and I had (we met there 25 years ago) and have gladly supported them not because we were trying to buy admissions for our children. If my kid wasn’t competitive OOS state with 1560SAT and 3.91 UGPA then they can say goodbye to our support in the future

This has been the case of my friends with legacy kids - didn’t get in to UVA as legacies for either undergrad or grad school

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

Because in an environment in which applications increase by 20 percent a year while the overall number of students applying to college is constant, schools don’t know how yield will shake out year to year.

No question the deferral acceptance rate was very low last year, but before that it was 4 percent and a year or two before that, 8 percent. Some deferrals will be waitlisted and the number taken off the wait list can also fluctuate dramatically from year to year.

Anonymous wrote:I think people should keep in mind that just like posts about income and weight, these posts are self-selecting. College confidential (and UVA’s own stats) speak to what the actual admitted applicant pool looks like (which is still highly selective but clearly doesn’t require a 1550 SAT).

I am so sorry high stat kids got deferred.

People forget that admissions are holistic, stats are a threshold, not determinative. I do think UVA likely has a very good odea about the extent of grade inflation at VA,DC, and MD schools.

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Anonymous wrote:My OOS kid deferred. Things are changing so quickly that Naviance is no longer useful. According to Naviance for DC’s school, every kid in last 5 years with stats equivalent to DC has been accepted. This makes it so hard to accurately identify reach/target/safety when planning applications.

UVA’s blog post from last year makes it clear that very, very, VERY few deferrals become acceptances.

Yes, and it makes me wonder why they defer so many. Only 72 kids who were initially deferred were admitted in RD last year: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2022/03/2022-uva-regular-decision-admission.html

YES. UVA doesn't practice yield protection. Most of the applicants, like mine, have or near 4.0, so they can't be looking at 1st semester graded. I don't get it. Just reject now you cowards!!

It does make me wonder how many are legacies or otherwise connected. Could be a soft-rejection method.

But UVA specifically states they aren't afraid to reject, that they would reject if they didn't think you could possibly get in. That's what Dean J said, but who knows. I'm sure no college is going to admit that they defer just as soft rejection.

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Anonymous wrote:Are anybody looking at these numbers and then claiming that William and Mary is just as selective as UVA is kidding themselves.

Public numbers show that UVA has an overall 20-ish% acceptance rate and W&M something like 33-37%. I don't have internal numbers for Fall 2022, though.
UMD surprised everyone by getting to 34% acceptance rate this year, down from its usual 45-ish%, due to a glut of applicants.
They all favor their in-state and early action or early decision applicants to varying degrees.

2023 Virginia resident
UVA EA DEFERRED
W&M RD "Postcard"
UMD EA Direct admit to CS

Maryland doesn’t favor in state applicants as much as other states,

Because it’s a less popular school nationwide and attracts a smaller percentage of out of state applicants. It can’t afford to be as picky.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th grade and this is terrifying. At least I can right size my expectations.

It’s all going to change many times over by the time your kid is ready.

Remember that DCUM represents a very, very small portion of the area. Maybe 20 people have posted here and there’s no way to know where these people are from. GPAs are inflated everywhere and the colleges are looking at everything, so there’s more to it than what people are posting.

I guess it is hard for people not going through the process to understand, but when a school is down to a 10 to 15 percent admission rate (as UVA is for oos which is the bulk of this applicants), there are a lot of kids with high stats that get rejected or deferred. It isn’t a issue of people making stats up, kids with these stats are not getting in.

The engineering and CS admissions are super competitive. Your choice of major makes a difference in admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Are anybody looking at these numbers and then claiming that William and Mary is just as selective as UVA is kidding themselves.

Public numbers show that UVA has an overall 20-ish% acceptance rate and W&M something like 33-37%. I don't have internal numbers for Fall 2022, though.
UMD surprised everyone by getting to 34% acceptance rate this year, down from its usual 45-ish%, due to a glut of applicants.
They all favor their in-state and early action or early decision applicants to varying degrees.

2023 Virginia resident
UVA EA DEFERRED
W&M RD "Postcard"
UMD EA Direct admit to CS

Yes, sometimes the admittances don't make sense to us, but we never know what the college is looking for that year and the exact cpmetion in our kids indicated majors.

Our headscratcher last year
CMU admitted
CWRU Deferred

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Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Understand your frustration for sure. How were his essays and what was his class ranking? It’s an unfortunate fact that not everyone can get in. So sorry.

Rank top 5% essays were really strong - multiple teachers said they were great.

Wow. You talked to “multiple teachers” about your kid’s college essays???

DP. I read that to mean op’s DC was told by multiple teachers that they were great.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are anybody looking at these numbers and then claiming that William and Mary is just as selective as UVA is kidding themselves.

Public numbers show that UVA has an overall 20-ish% acceptance rate and W&M something like 33-37%. I don't have internal numbers for Fall 2022, though.
UMD surprised everyone by getting to 34% acceptance rate this year, down from its usual 45-ish%, due to a glut of applicants.
They all favor their in-state and early action or early decision applicants to varying degrees.

2023 Virginia resident
UVA EA DEFERRED
W&M RD "Postcard"
UMD EA Direct admit to CS

Maryland doesn’t favor in state applicants as much as other states,