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Anonymous wrote:Mental illness does not discriminate.

No it doesn’t. So we must also recognize that many of these mass shooters are indeed mentally ill to some extent. We mustn’t discriminate. They ended up dead or imprisoned for life. Remember that.

Yes, we need better public mental healthcare and unfortunately, to understand that someone committed a tragic act because of mental illness and treat them as such (like you’d treat, say, cancer) not say they’re “evil.”

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Anonymous wrote:Mental illness does not discriminate.

No it doesn’t. So we must also recognize that many of these mass shooters are indeed mentally ill to some extent. We mustn’t discriminate. They ended up dead or imprisoned for life. Remember that.

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Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

In DC where everyone has purposely moved here, away from their families of origin, what you’re saying is correct.

Most people in the US live where they grew up and have family around.

How do you know this? I don’t think it’s true.

It’s an incredibly tough time to raise a family. There are so many factors to now consider that past generations never had to face. No one is really prepared to become a parent but like all jobs, certain qualities should be required. Not everyone is meant to be, nor should become, a parent, and we need to be able to recognize and accept this.

Choose to have kids or don’t (EVERYONE should have that choice), but the bolded is bullcrap. Your ancestors faced war, famine, discrimination, poverty, tiny living spaces, no air conditioning, pandemics, pollution, lack of proper sanitation, fires AND raised boatloads of kids, doing so with little formal education at a young age. We are far more prosperous today, and the most fortunate among us are choosing to have small families than ever before, in much larger homes than 100 years ago. Which is fine!

DP. I think you are misinterpreting your positive factors. Because life is so easy, we are unable to cope with the lack of real adversity. I do think it's a very difficult time to have a family now. But you won't admit that.

Genuinely asking, why?

Hmmm, social media, two parents working full time, lack of community/social network and support, transient neighborhoods, lack of extended family, lack of money, lack of life experience, culture where everyone’s a winner, fear of failure, etc.

LOL.

Complaining about “two parents working full time.” Hmm. Maybe dad should stay at home? Somehow I don’t think that’s what you meant.

I can assure you people in the past had far less life experience and less money when having kids than people do today. Throughout history, the poorest people have had the most kids. Lack of money isn’t stopping anyone from having a family if they that’s what they want, nor has it ever. My grandparents put multiple kids of mixed genders in the same bedroom.

The bolded are in contradiction with each other.

Get off social media and move back to your hometown. What’s stopping you?
My father worked in a factory directly out of HS and bought a nice suburban house, car and raised a family. He was 19 years old. Show me a 19 year old who can do this today.

Warehouse jobs today are the equivalent of those factory jobs. There are absolutely places in the US where two full-time Amazon warehouse employees can buy a house. Namely in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and a multitude of other places. The thing is that people of that socioeconomic strata don’t tend to marry anymore like their predecessors did.

Oh, and your father’s “nice suburban house” was tinier than a new 2BR apartment today.

Yes, we have become an extravagant society where everyone is a winner and deserves a McMansion. Oh and MAYBE two Amazon warehouse workers could possibly afford a home somewhere in Mississippi or somewhere, but my mom was a stay at home mom and we lived contentedly in our little bungalow and they are still living there today. Lucky them.

Are they white?

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Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

In DC where everyone has purposely moved here, away from their families of origin, what you’re saying is correct.

Most people in the US live where they grew up and have family around.

How do you know this? I don’t think it’s true.

It’s an incredibly tough time to raise a family. There are so many factors to now consider that past generations never had to face. No one is really prepared to become a parent but like all jobs, certain qualities should be required. Not everyone is meant to be, nor should become, a parent, and we need to be able to recognize and accept this.

Choose to have kids or don’t (EVERYONE should have that choice), but the bolded is bullcrap. Your ancestors faced war, famine, discrimination, poverty, tiny living spaces, no air conditioning, pandemics, pollution, lack of proper sanitation, fires AND raised boatloads of kids, doing so with little formal education at a young age. We are far more prosperous today, and the most fortunate among us are choosing to have small families than ever before, in much larger homes than 100 years ago. Which is fine!

DP. I think you are misinterpreting your positive factors. Because life is so easy, we are unable to cope with the lack of real adversity. I do think it's a very difficult time to have a family now. But you won't admit that.

Genuinely asking, why?

Hmmm, social media, two parents working full time, lack of community/social network and support, transient neighborhoods, lack of extended family, lack of money, lack of life experience, culture where everyone’s a winner, fear of failure, etc.

LOL.

Complaining about “two parents working full time.” Hmm. Maybe dad should stay at home? Somehow I don’t think that’s what you meant.

I can assure you people in the past had far less life experience and less money when having kids than people do today. Throughout history, the poorest people have had the most kids. Lack of money isn’t stopping anyone from having a family if they that’s what they want, nor has it ever. My grandparents put multiple kids of mixed genders in the same bedroom.

The bolded are in contradiction with each other.

Get off social media and move back to your hometown. What’s stopping you?
My father worked in a factory directly out of HS and bought a nice suburban house, car and raised a family. He was 19 years old. Show me a 19 year old who can do this today.

Warehouse jobs today are the equivalent of those factory jobs. There are absolutely places in the US where two full-time Amazon warehouse employees can buy a house. Namely in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and a multitude of other places. The thing is that people of that socioeconomic strata don’t tend to marry anymore like their predecessors did.

Oh, and your father’s “nice suburban house” was tinier than a new 2BR apartment today.

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Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

In DC where everyone has purposely moved here, away from their families of origin, what you’re saying is correct.

Most people in the US live where they grew up and have family around.

How do you know this? I don’t think it’s true.

It’s an incredibly tough time to raise a family. There are so many factors to now consider that past generations never had to face. No one is really prepared to become a parent but like all jobs, certain qualities should be required. Not everyone is meant to be, nor should become, a parent, and we need to be able to recognize and accept this.

Choose to have kids or don’t (EVERYONE should have that choice), but the bolded is bullcrap. Your ancestors faced war, famine, discrimination, poverty, tiny living spaces, no air conditioning, pandemics, pollution, lack of proper sanitation, fires AND raised boatloads of kids, doing so with little formal education at a young age. We are far more prosperous today, and the most fortunate among us are choosing to have small families than ever before, in much larger homes than 100 years ago. Which is fine!

DP. I think you are misinterpreting your positive factors. Because life is so easy, we are unable to cope with the lack of real adversity. I do think it's a very difficult time to have a family now. But you won't admit that.

Genuinely asking, why?

Hmmm, social media, two parents working full time, lack of community/social network and support, transient neighborhoods, lack of extended family, lack of money, lack of life experience, culture where everyone’s a winner, fear of failure, etc.

LOL.

Complaining about “two parents working full time.” Hmm. Maybe dad should stay at home? Somehow I don’t think that’s what you meant.

I can assure you people in the past had far less life experience and less money when having kids than people do today. Throughout history, the poorest people have had the most kids. Lack of money isn’t stopping anyone from having a family if they that’s what they want, nor has it ever. My grandparents put multiple kids of mixed genders in the same bedroom.

The bolded are in contradiction with each other.

Get off social media and move back to your hometown. What’s stopping you?
My father worked in a factory directly out of HS and bought a nice suburban house, car and raised a family. He was 19 years old. Show me a 19 year old who can do this today.

Warehouse jobs today are the equivalent of those factory jobs. There are absolutely places in the US where two full-time Amazon warehouse employees can buy a house. Namely in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and a multitude of other places. The thing is that people of that socioeconomic strata don’t tend to marry anymore like their predecessors did.

Oh, and your father’s “nice suburban house” was tinier than a new 2BR apartment today.

Yes, we have become an extravagant society where everyone is a winner and deserves a McMansion. Oh and MAYBE two Amazon warehouse workers could possibly afford a home somewhere in Mississippi or somewhere, but my mom was a stay at home mom and we lived contentedly in our little bungalow and they are still living there today. Lucky them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

In DC where everyone has purposely moved here, away from their families of origin, what you’re saying is correct.

Most people in the US live where they grew up and have family around.

How do you know this? I don’t think it’s true.

It’s an incredibly tough time to raise a family. There are so many factors to now consider that past generations never had to face. No one is really prepared to become a parent but like all jobs, certain qualities should be required. Not everyone is meant to be, nor should become, a parent, and we need to be able to recognize and accept this.

Choose to have kids or don’t (EVERYONE should have that choice), but the bolded is bullcrap. Your ancestors faced war, famine, discrimination, poverty, tiny living spaces, no air conditioning, pandemics, pollution, lack of proper sanitation, fires AND raised boatloads of kids, doing so with little formal education at a young age. We are far more prosperous today, and the most fortunate among us are choosing to have small families than ever before, in much larger homes than 100 years ago. Which is fine!

DP. I think you are misinterpreting your positive factors. Because life is so easy, we are unable to cope with the lack of real adversity. I do think it's a very difficult time to have a family now. But you won't admit that.

Genuinely asking, why?

Hmmm, social media, two parents working full time, lack of community/social network and support, transient neighborhoods, lack of extended family, lack of money, lack of life experience, culture where everyone’s a winner, fear of failure, etc.

LOL.

Complaining about “two parents working full time.” Hmm. Maybe dad should stay at home? Somehow I don’t think that’s what you meant.

I can assure you people in the past had far less life experience and less money when having kids than people do today. Throughout history, the poorest people have had the most kids. Lack of money isn’t stopping anyone from having a family if they that’s what they want, nor has it ever. My grandparents put multiple kids of mixed genders in the same bedroom.

The bolded are in contradiction with each other.

Get off social media and move back to your hometown. What’s stopping you?
My father worked in a factory directly out of HS and bought a nice suburban house, car and raised a family. He was 19 years old. Show me a 19 year old who can do this today.

Warehouse jobs today are the equivalent of those factory jobs. There are absolutely places in the US where two full-time Amazon warehouse employees can buy a house. Namely in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and a multitude of other places. The thing is that people of that socioeconomic strata don’t tend to marry anymore like their predecessors did.

Oh, and your father’s “nice suburban house” was tinier than a new 2BR apartment today.

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Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

In DC where everyone has purposely moved here, away from their families of origin, what you’re saying is correct.

Most people in the US live where they grew up and have family around.

How do you know this? I don’t think it’s true.

It’s an incredibly tough time to raise a family. There are so many factors to now consider that past generations never had to face. No one is really prepared to become a parent but like all jobs, certain qualities should be required. Not everyone is meant to be, nor should become, a parent, and we need to be able to recognize and accept this.

Choose to have kids or don’t (EVERYONE should have that choice), but the bolded is bullcrap. Your ancestors faced war, famine, discrimination, poverty, tiny living spaces, no air conditioning, pandemics, pollution, lack of proper sanitation, fires AND raised boatloads of kids, doing so with little formal education at a young age. We are far more prosperous today, and the most fortunate among us are choosing to have small families than ever before, in much larger homes than 100 years ago. Which is fine!

DP. I think you are misinterpreting your positive factors. Because life is so easy, we are unable to cope with the lack of real adversity. I do think it's a very difficult time to have a family now. But you won't admit that.

Genuinely asking, why?

Hmmm, social media, two parents working full time, lack of community/social network and support, transient neighborhoods, lack of extended family, lack of money, lack of life experience, culture where everyone’s a winner, fear of failure, etc.

LOL.

Complaining about “two parents working full time.” Hmm. Maybe dad should stay at home? Somehow I don’t think that’s what you meant.

I can assure you people in the past had far less life experience and less money when having kids than people do today. Throughout history, the poorest people have had the most kids. Lack of money isn’t stopping anyone from having a family if they that’s what they want, nor has it ever. My grandparents put multiple kids of mixed genders in the same bedroom.

The bolded are in contradiction with each other.

Get off social media and move back to your hometown. What’s stopping you?
My father worked in a factory directly out of HS and bought a nice suburban house, car and raised a family. He was 19 years old. Show me a 19 year old who can do this today.

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Anonymous wrote:All this talk about society and parenting is missing a huge element: money. Everything (from groceries to housing to college to health insurance/healthcare costs) is much more expensive now than it was in previous generations, relatively speaking and adjusting for inflation of course. Many college graduates struggle to secure a job that pays well enough to allow them to buy a house or have the type of lifestyle that previous generations had with the same amount of $. Two incomes are a requirement for many families who in the past would’ve been able to have a comfortable life with one income and as a result of financial strain, families are stressed! Most women are working outside the home and serving as primary parent and doing majority of the housework as well. I’m not saying we should go back to a society where women are mostly SAHMs either but there is way too much stress on families, particularly young families just starting out, to make ends meet and create a nice life for themselves/their kids.

Right, we can’t do it all, and the more we pile on the more things are going to suffer. In many cases it’s our mental health.

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Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

In DC where everyone has purposely moved here, away from their families of origin, what you’re saying is correct.

Most people in the US live where they grew up and have family around.

How do you know this? I don’t think it’s true.

It’s an incredibly tough time to raise a family. There are so many factors to now consider that past generations never had to face. No one is really prepared to become a parent but like all jobs, certain qualities should be required. Not everyone is meant to be, nor should become, a parent, and we need to be able to recognize and accept this.

Choose to have kids or don’t (EVERYONE should have that choice), but the bolded is bullcrap. Your ancestors faced war, famine, discrimination, poverty, tiny living spaces, no air conditioning, pandemics, pollution, lack of proper sanitation, fires AND raised boatloads of kids, doing so with little formal education at a young age. We are far more prosperous today, and the most fortunate among us are choosing to have small families than ever before, in much larger homes than 100 years ago. Which is fine!

DP. I think you are misinterpreting your positive factors. Because life is so easy, we are unable to cope with the lack of real adversity. I do think it's a very difficult time to have a family now. But you won't admit that.

Genuinely asking, why?

Hmmm, social media, two parents working full time, lack of community/social network and support, transient neighborhoods, lack of extended family, lack of money, lack of life experience, culture where everyone’s a winner, fear of failure, etc.

LOL.

Complaining about “two parents working full time.” Hmm. Maybe dad should stay at home? Somehow I don’t think that’s what you meant.

I can assure you people in the past had far less life experience and less money when having kids than people do today. Throughout history, the poorest people have had the most kids. Lack of money isn’t stopping anyone from having a family if they that’s what they want, nor has it ever. My grandparents put multiple kids of mixed genders in the same bedroom.

The bolded are in contradiction with each other.

Get off social media and move back to your hometown. What’s stopping you?
My father worked in a factory directly out of HS and bought a nice suburban house, car and raised a family. He was 19 years old. Show me a 19 year old who can do this today.

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Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

In DC where everyone has purposely moved here, away from their families of origin, what you’re saying is correct.

Most people in the US live where they grew up and have family around.

How do you know this? I don’t think it’s true.

It’s an incredibly tough time to raise a family. There are so many factors to now consider that past generations never had to face. No one is really prepared to become a parent but like all jobs, certain qualities should be required. Not everyone is meant to be, nor should become, a parent, and we need to be able to recognize and accept this.

Choose to have kids or don’t (EVERYONE should have that choice), but the bolded is bullcrap. Your ancestors faced war, famine, discrimination, poverty, tiny living spaces, no air conditioning, pandemics, pollution, lack of proper sanitation, fires AND raised boatloads of kids, doing so with little formal education at a young age. We are far more prosperous today, and the most fortunate among us are choosing to have small families than ever before, in much larger homes than 100 years ago. Which is fine!

DP. I think you are misinterpreting your positive factors. Because life is so easy, we are unable to cope with the lack of real adversity. I do think it's a very difficult time to have a family now. But you won't admit that.

Genuinely asking, why?

Hmmm, social media, two parents working full time, lack of community/social network and support, transient neighborhoods, lack of extended family, lack of money, lack of life experience, culture where everyone’s a winner, fear of failure, etc.

LOL.

Complaining about “two parents working full time.” Hmm. Maybe dad should stay at home? Somehow I don’t think that’s what you meant.

I can assure you people in the past had far less life experience and less money when having kids than people do today. Throughout history, the poorest people have had the most kids. Lack of money isn’t stopping anyone from having a family if they that’s what they want, nor has it ever. My grandparents put multiple kids of mixed genders in the same bedroom.

The bolded are in contradiction with each other.

Get off social media and move back to your hometown. What’s stopping you?

Anonymous wrote:All this talk about society and parenting is missing a huge element: money. Everything (from groceries to housing to college to health insurance/healthcare costs) is much more expensive now than it was in previous generations, relatively speaking and adjusting for inflation of course. Many college graduates struggle to secure a job that pays well enough to allow them to buy a house or have the type of lifestyle that previous generations had with the same amount of $. Two incomes are a requirement for many families who in the past would’ve been able to have a comfortable life with one income and as a result of financial strain, families are stressed! Most women are working outside the home and serving as primary parent and doing majority of the housework as well. I’m not saying we should go back to a society where women are mostly SAHMs either but there is way too much stress on families, particularly young families just starting out, to make ends meet and create a nice life for themselves/their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Why have 3 kids? I have not seen any mom (unless they are wealthy like Hilaria Baldwin or Kim K) who don't start losing it after two kids.

3 is super hard and no one else wants to look after your kid either. This is not a society where women have a village to raise their kids. You are seriously screwed if you have 3 kids. In our circle the only people who have had 3 kids were people whose second pregnancy resulted in twins. And the moment you hear "twins" for a second pregnancy, you start to feel bad for them because more than 2 kids is chaos.

In DC where everyone has purposely moved here, away from their families of origin, what you’re saying is correct.

Most people in the US live where they grew up and have family around.

How do you know this? I don’t think it’s true.

It’s an incredibly tough time to raise a family. There are so many factors to now consider that past generations never had to face. No one is really prepared to become a parent but like all jobs, certain qualities should be required. Not everyone is meant to be, nor should become, a parent, and we need to be able to recognize and accept this.

Choose to have kids or don’t (EVERYONE should have that choice), but the bolded is bullcrap. Your ancestors faced war, famine, discrimination, poverty, tiny living spaces, no air conditioning, pandemics, pollution, lack of proper sanitation, fires AND raised boatloads of kids, doing so with little formal education at a young age. We are far more prosperous today, and the most fortunate among us are choosing to have small families than ever before, in much larger homes than 100 years ago. Which is fine!

DP. I think you are misinterpreting your positive factors. Because life is so easy, we are unable to cope with the lack of real adversity. I do think it's a very difficult time to have a family now. But you won't admit that.

Genuinely asking, why?

Hmmm, social media, two parents working full time, lack of community/social network and support, transient neighborhoods, lack of extended family, lack of money, lack of life experience, culture where everyone’s a winner, fear of failure, etc.