Anonymous
12/03/2022 13:52
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Breaking kosher is breaking religious rules. Specifically.
But they are religious rules that parents choose to follow. Religious rules aren’t superior to any other rules.
Even atheists have their rules, apparently.
There are no “atheist rules”. Just individual families making their own decisions. Just like everyone else.
Anonymous
12/03/2022 12:32
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Breaking kosher is breaking religious rules. Specifically.
But they are religious rules that parents choose to follow. Religious rules aren’t superior to any other rules.
Even atheists have their rules, apparently.
Anonymous
12/03/2022 12:31
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Breaking kosher is breaking religious rules. Specifically.
But they are religious rules that parents choose to follow. Religious rules aren’t superior to any other rules.
Anonymous
12/03/2022 10:58
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Breaking kosher is breaking religious rules. Specifically.
The *comparison* isn’t religious.
Those are rules the family decides to follow. Other families have other rules. There are zero “atheist rules”.
You cited Jewish kosher as a comparison to giving a child a gift. You didn’t say that all parents have rules.
Don’t be obtuse. Parents can choose to be kosher and choose which of those rules they will follow. Other parents choose other rules for their family. The PP was comparing someone intentionally breaking family rules.
Why are you trying to antagonize? Does that get you into the holiday spirit?
What other parents, beside Jewish parents, choose kosher?
It’s an example of family rules. Other families have different rules.
Do you have a tradition of starting antagonizing threads right before the winter holidays? A seasonal fetish of yours?
Anonymous
12/03/2022 10:35
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Breaking kosher is breaking religious rules. Specifically.
The *comparison* isn’t religious.
Those are rules the family decides to follow. Other families have other rules. There are zero “atheist rules”.
You cited Jewish kosher as a comparison to giving a child a gift. You didn’t say that all parents have rules.
Don’t be obtuse. Parents can choose to be kosher and choose which of those rules they will follow. Other parents choose other rules for their family. The PP was comparing someone intentionally breaking family rules.
Why are you trying to antagonize? Does that get you into the holiday spirit?
What other parents, beside Jewish parents, choose kosher?
Anonymous
12/03/2022 07:35
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Breaking kosher is breaking religious rules. Specifically.
The *comparison* isn’t religious.
Those are rules the family decides to follow. Other families have other rules. There are zero “atheist rules”.
You cited Jewish kosher as a comparison to giving a child a gift. You didn’t say that all parents have rules.
Don’t be obtuse. Parents can choose to be kosher and choose which of those rules they will follow. Other parents choose other rules for their family. The PP was comparing someone intentionally breaking family rules.
Why are you trying to antagonize? Does that get you into the holiday spirit?
Anonymous
12/03/2022 07:20
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Breaking kosher is breaking religious rules. Specifically.
The *comparison* isn’t religious.
Those are rules the family decides to follow. Other families have other rules. There are zero “atheist rules”.
You cited Jewish kosher as a comparison to giving a child a gift. You didn’t say that all parents have rules.
Anonymous
12/03/2022 00:14
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Breaking kosher is breaking religious rules. Specifically.
The *comparison* isn’t religious.
Those are rules the family decides to follow. Other families have other rules. There are zero “atheist rules”.
Anonymous
12/03/2022 00:06
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Breaking kosher is breaking religious rules. Specifically.
Anonymous
12/02/2022 15:15
Subject: Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Be the change you want to see.
If you want to see more antagonism, then proceed with your antagonizing.
If you want to see more antagonism, then proceed with your antagonizing.
Anonymous
12/02/2022 15:13
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
It's not.
And PP was comparing two instances of going against parents' wishes. It has nothing to do with religion.
Anonymous
12/02/2022 14:56
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
You missed the whole point. Religious belief isn't superior to any other belief. If you want people to respect your belief's, you need to respect theirs or in this case, their disbelief. To this parent receiving a gift in celebration of the birth of Christ may well be as offensive as giving a kosher child a piece of bacon.
Anonymous
12/02/2022 12:19
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?
No, a poster is comparing giving a kosher Jewish child bacon w/o parental knowledge to giving a grandchild a Christmas gift after his atheist parents do not give consent.
Atheism is a religion w/o a god.
Anonymous
12/02/2022 09:59
Subject: Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just myob and let them deal with their own child. They have to figure out how to navigate. And a kid will be fine not getting a gift. Kids can handle disappointment and situations like this are practice for real life.
It is actually the grandmothers disappointment OP is dealing with. It understandably breaks her heart to intentionally exclude one grandchild.
Yes but the grandma is responsible for her own feelings. She needs to understand this message too. The holidays should not be based around managing grandma’s emotions.
Anonymous
12/02/2022 09:57
Subject: Re:Atheist bil won’t allow 3 year old nephew to receive a gift during holidays
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm imagining one of the teens requesting a gift for themselves that the nephew might like (stuffed animal, ball...) and then sharing it with him.
Why would that be less offensive than a kid slipping their Kosher cousin a piece of bacon?
I’ve heard atheist ppl say atheism isn’t a religion; it’s simply no belief in God or gods. But you are comparing the two?
Is belief in God superior to not believe in God? For respect to be received, it must be given, no?
But I’ve been told numerous times here atheism is nothing but a disbelief in God or gods. Santa is not a god.
DP. Parents make all sorts of decisions about their kids that have nothing to do with religion. Or, even within one particular religion, parents will have different “rules” for their family.
Intentionally going against parents’ wishes behind their back is disrespectful. Period.
This was a lame attempt to antagonize atheists. ‘Tis the season?