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Anonymous wrote:I hold dual citizenship and split my time between the US and France for family reasons. Americans who think Europe is somehow economically and socially better off than the US are naïve or misinformed, and are in for a rude shock. Frankly, if I had to pick where I'd spend 100% of my time, I would choose the US.

Particularly if you want to heat your home or apartment this winter.

try paying for college and private insurance here in the US. No one in Europe would want the US system.

Except for all of the ones who come here for college because they can’t get into the university in their home country.

My kids, and their cousins, hold dual US-Canadian citizenship and instate tuition at a flagship is not that much more than going to school in Canada. Plus, living expenses in Vancouver/Toronto are high. We also pay for private health care and with ACA it is no big deal. Ultimately, one by one, the 6 kids in my family that have dual citizenship have opted to stay in the US as they enter college & young adulthood. We really didn't expect that to happen but it did, even kids who are very critical of the US.

This is so true but likely angers many people.

Anonymous wrote:I need to look into this because of the awful DC rat race.

Also democracy died earlier this month in America.

What happened?

Also, South America blows Europe out of the water.

I need to look into this because of the awful DC rat race.

Also democracy died earlier this month in America.

I have to say, as a european I love it when I meet Americans here that live here. So for Halloween only one home in our entire neighborhood decorated their home and windows and front door. And guess what the woman who lives there is an american. She moved here for love (her husband) I think.

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Anonymous wrote:I hold dual citizenship and split my time between the US and France for family reasons. Americans who think Europe is somehow economically and socially better off than the US are naïve or misinformed, and are in for a rude shock. Frankly, if I had to pick where I'd spend 100% of my time, I would choose the US.

Particularly if you want to heat your home or apartment this winter.

try paying for college and private insurance here in the US. No one in Europe would want the US system.

Except for all of the ones who come here for college because they can’t get into the university in their home country.

My kids, and their cousins, hold dual US-Canadian citizenship and instate tuition at a flagship is not that much more than going to school in Canada. Plus, living expenses in Vancouver/Toronto are high. We also pay for private health care and with ACA it is no big deal. Ultimately, one by one, the 6 kids in my family that have dual citizenship have opted to stay in the US as they enter college & young adulthood. We really didn't expect that to happen but it did, even kids who are very critical of the US.

this article is click bait. if you read the ireland laws they are much more stringent than the article points out



no way 40% qualify

Anonymous wrote:DH’s Irish citizenship has been pending since just before covid slowed everything down. But it would do nothing for me and he missed the window for the kids. So, good for him?

You would be able to stay with him if he moves to Ireland. Work remotely for a uS company.

DH’s Irish citizenship has been pending since just before covid slowed everything down. But it would do nothing for me and he missed the window for the kids. So, good for him?

40% stiles me as very high, given the technicalities of the laws.

I have friends who moved to Italy about a decade ago, based on the citizenship of the husband’s grandparent. He got citizenship first, then the wife and children were piggybacked from the husband’s citizenship. They moved to the small city where the grandfather grew up, which is possible because they kept their US jobs and telecommute. The kids go to public school. It seems like a really pleasant life, except that the wife didn’t learn Italian as a child like the husband and kids did, and she’ll never be as fluent as they are. It’s an issue for both bureaucratic life (her driver’s test was a major stressor) and social life.

I looked into doing the same based on German ancestry, but the immigrant grandparent cannot have given up German citizenship in favor of US citizenship. And many German emigrants DID give up their citizenship during WWII because there was a lot of prejudice and suspicion against anyone who didn’t.

I assume most people on a thread about European ancestry are white, but for anyone who’s not, be sure to factor in the question of racism. I’m white and my husband is not — though he’d love to live abroad in theory, he pointed out that he’d face prejudice (at least outside the biggest cities) in ways that I would not.

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Anonymous wrote:I hold dual citizenship and split my time between the US and France for family reasons. Americans who think Europe is somehow economically and socially better off than the US are naïve or misinformed, and are in for a rude shock. Frankly, if I had to pick where I'd spend 100% of my time, I would choose the US.

Couldnt agree more. My husband was dual and renounced his citizenship to the European country. We visit, but have zero interest in citizenship. Americans truly do not understand how good we have it and have an idealized view of Europe that is completely detached from reality, esp wrt social issues and politics.

People who think women are better off in Europe are delusional.

People who think Europe is a monolith are stupid and uneducated.

Anonymous wrote:I have been exploring this. My ancestors are German. Do you have any more specifics on what is required for Germany? So far I have traced 3 of my 4 grandparents back to German immigrants who arrived between 1734 and 1750.

That's an easy one. Don't you have Google too?


You are not eligible for German citizenship.

Under German Nationality Law, you are considered a German citizen if the circumstances of your birth fall in one of the categories below. (As a result, if you are the child or grandchild of someone listed below, you are eligible for German citizenship by descent).

If you were born to married parents between January 1, 1914, and December 31, 1974, and your father was a German citizen at the time of your birth.
If you were born to married parents between January 1, 1964, and December 31, 1974, and your mother was German, but your father was not, and you would otherwise have been stateless. During these years, women who married foreign citizens had to renounce their German nationality and thus could not pass it on to their children.*
If you were born to married parents after January 1, 1975, and one of your parents (mother or father) was a German citizen at the time of your birth.
If you were born to unmarried parents after January 1, 1914, and your mother was German at the time of your birth.
If you were born after July 1, 1993, to unmarried parents and your father was a German citizen who established paternity in line with German law.
If you were born to unmarried parents before July 1, 1993, your father was a German citizen who established paternity, and you declared German citizenship by your 23rd birthday.
You were born to unmarried parents between January 1, 1914, and June 30, 1998, but your parents got married after you were born.

Anonymous wrote:A lot of European countries are desperate for new people, especially white Americans (ie, descendants of emigrants). They want more population, but they want the "right" people coming in, in the same spirit of US law before passage of the 1965 Immigration Act.

Which countries? I want to know in case the MAGAs go wild and we need a place to go.

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Anonymous wrote:I hold dual citizenship and split my time between the US and France for family reasons. Americans who think Europe is somehow economically and socially better off than the US are naïve or misinformed, and are in for a rude shock. Frankly, if I had to pick where I'd spend 100% of my time, I would choose the US.

Particularly if you want to heat your home or apartment this winter.

try paying for college and private insurance here in the US. No one in Europe would want the US system.

Except for all of the ones who come here for college because they can’t get into the university in their home country.

? I think you are confusing two different continents.

You might be thinking of Asian college students.

Not to threadjack, but FWIU one reason there are so many Asian students at U.S. colleges is because universities throughout Asia are not very good.

We dug into this but missed the Italian eligibility by a few years. It is unfortunate as having an EU passport would be super handy and open a lot of possibilities.

Instead we'd need to do a golden visa to spend a few years overseas.

If Scotland ever gains independence, I'd be interested in seeing if I would qualify for citizenship based on the fact that my grandfather was born in Glasgow.

And, to answer an earlier question, the United States does not have any laws for or against dual citizenship, so obtaining a foreign country's passport would not automatically affect your status in the U.S.