Anonymous
10/19/2022 16:42
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While all hominids originated in Africa, the Clovis people are the currently accepted first hominids in the Americas but there is some evidence that other people were here long before them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Parallel evolution of another sapient species in the Americas would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history. That would be mind-blowing, to say the least.
Science is real, and science supports a human presence predating Clovis people’s’ presence in the Americas.
Which still doesn't mean that their descendants are owed the Western Hemisphere...
You can start by either moving non-tribal members off any land within current treaty borders or paying rent (US or state government can pay the rent instead of the private landowner, that's fine). Here is the map showing the treaty lands:
For those of you who don't think you are living on "stolen land" -- the treaties, ratified by the Senate and signed by the President, typically establish fixed borders for a “permanent home for the _____ nation of Indians” and say that the United States grants title "to the ____ nation of Indians for the land” to continue “so long as they shall exist as a nation" and "“no portion of the lands will ever be embraced or included within, or annexed to, any Territory or State."
Only both parties to a treaty can renegotiate a treaty.
(1) Once a federal reservation is established, only Congress can diminish or disestablish it. Doing so requires a clear expression of con- gressional intent. Pp. 6–8.
Unless I'm reading that map incorrectly, what you're proposing would result in the potential displacement of tens of millions of Americans, or requiring the loss of property rights for those people.
If you think that's anywhere near the realm of realm of reality, you're delusional.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 16:21
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While all hominids originated in Africa, the Clovis people are the currently accepted first hominids in the Americas but there is some evidence that other people were here long before them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Parallel evolution of another sapient species in the Americas would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history. That would be mind-blowing, to say the least.
Science is real, and science supports a human presence predating Clovis people’s’ presence in the Americas.
Which still doesn't mean that their descendants are owed the Western Hemisphere...
You can start by either moving non-tribal members off any land within current treaty borders or paying rent (US or state government can pay the rent instead of the private landowner, that's fine). Here is the map showing the treaty lands:
For those of you who don't think you are living on "stolen land" -- the treaties, ratified by the Senate and signed by the President, typically establish fixed borders for a “permanent home for the _____ nation of Indians” and say that the United States grants title "to the ____ nation of Indians for the land” to continue “so long as they shall exist as a nation" and "“no portion of the lands will ever be embraced or included within, or annexed to, any Territory or State."
Only both parties to a treaty can renegotiate a treaty.
(1) Once a federal reservation is established, only Congress can diminish or disestablish it. Doing so requires a clear expression of con- gressional intent. Pp. 6–8.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 16:15
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While all hominids originated in Africa, the Clovis people are the currently accepted first hominids in the Americas but there is some evidence that other people were here long before them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Parallel evolution of another sapient species in the Americas would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history. That would be mind-blowing, to say the least.
Science is real, and science supports a human presence predating Clovis people’s’ presence in the Americas.
Which still doesn't mean that their descendants are owed the Western Hemisphere...
You can start by either moving non-tribal members off any land within current treaty borders or paying rent (US or state government can pay the rent instead of the private landowner, that's fine). Here is the map showing the treaty lands:
Anonymous
10/19/2022 14:58
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While all hominids originated in Africa, the Clovis people are the currently accepted first hominids in the Americas but there is some evidence that other people were here long before them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Yes, but if they were unfairly displaced by Clovis colonizers, shouldn’t - at a minimum - reparations be in order?
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Parallel evolution of another sapient species in the Americas would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history. That would be mind-blowing, to say the least.
Science is real, and science supports a human presence predating Clovis people’s’ presence in the Americas.
Which still doesn't mean that their descendants are owed the Western Hemisphere...
Anonymous
10/19/2022 14:34
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:While all hominids originated in Africa, the Clovis people are the currently accepted first hominids in the Americas but there is some evidence that other people were here long before them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Parallel evolution of another sapient species in the Americas would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history. That would be mind-blowing, to say the least.
Science is real, and science supports a human presence predating Clovis people’s’ presence in the Americas.
Which still doesn't mean that their descendants are owed the Western Hemisphere...
Anonymous
10/19/2022 13:12
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:While all hominids originated in Africa, the Clovis people are the currently accepted first hominids in the Americas but there is some evidence that other people were here long before them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Parallel evolution of another sapient species in the Americas would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history. That would be mind-blowing, to say the least.
This post sent me down a fascinating Wikipedia rabbit hole.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 09:58
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:While all hominids originated in Africa, the Clovis people are the currently accepted first hominids in the Americas but there is some evidence that other people were here long before them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Parallel evolution of another sapient species in the Americas would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history. That would be mind-blowing, to say the least.
Science is real, and science supports a human presence predating Clovis people’s’ presence in the Americas.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 09:56
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
While all hominids originated in Africa, the Clovis people are the currently accepted first hominids in the Americas but there is some evidence that other people were here long before them.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Parallel evolution of another sapient species in the Americas would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history. That would be mind-blowing, to say the least.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 09:46
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Parallel evolution of another sapient species in the Americas would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history. That would be mind-blowing, to say the least.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 08:43
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
A better, more accurate term is “aboriginal Americans”, since they were the first modern humans in the New World. But “native American” is both scientifically inaccurate as well as grammatically incorrect.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 08:42
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Actually you cannot prove a negative.
Who knows, perhaps next year some new finding will prove that some other dudes were here before so-called NAs.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 08:39
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Because the current fossil record, and known DNA, do not support that.
Hominids evolved in Africa, and spread to the rest of the world from there. There was no parallel evolution occurring on different continents. Africa is the ONLY place on earth where modern humans are actually native to.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 07:53
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Exactly.
Anonymous
10/19/2022 07:25
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
How do we know they did not displace some other, truly native, American group?
Anonymous
10/19/2022 00:50
Subject: Can you be a native of America/United States of America if you are not Native American?
Sorry, but Native Americans aren’t native to the Americas, either. They came from Asia. No hominid species is native to the New World.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.
They were merely the first modern humans to live in the Americas. But they’re not native to here. No human is. We are all an introduced species.
Science is real.