Anonymous
06/16/2022 21:40
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
the sky is falling...the sky is falling...
If you cannot see the risks for an impending recession, you are just dumb at this point.
Can we please just get this recession started? I've been hearing about it for the last 6 months (or more).
People are acting like a recession is the end of the world. I’ve lived through four previous ones. They last for 12-18 months, and absolutely suck if you’re in an industry that’s particularly affected. Then growth resumes & we’re back to the start of a normal business cycle. I see no evidence that this recession will be worse than others.
Yeah except for the fact the the US has record deficits and can't stimulate its way out this time until inflation stops. It will also blow up the deficit even more. Once people lose faith in the USD because US debt is massive, everything goes to hell as the world ditches the dollar.
Meh. We also had record deficits in the 1980s and 90s. They are bigger now, but nobody knows how large they have to be before your sky is falling scenario happens.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 20:40
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
the sky is falling...the sky is falling...
If you cannot see the risks for an impending recession, you are just dumb at this point.
Can we please just get this recession started? I've been hearing about it for the last 6 months (or more).
People are acting like a recession is the end of the world. I’ve lived through four previous ones. They last for 12-18 months, and absolutely suck if you’re in an industry that’s particularly affected. Then growth resumes & we’re back to the start of a normal business cycle. I see no evidence that this recession will be worse than others.
Yeah except for the fact the the US has record deficits and can't stimulate its way out this time until inflation stops. It will also blow up the deficit even more. Once people lose faith in the USD because US debt is massive, everything goes to hell as the world ditches the dollar.
And what currency will they go with then?
Anonymous
06/16/2022 18:23
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
the sky is falling...the sky is falling...
If you cannot see the risks for an impending recession, you are just dumb at this point.
Can we please just get this recession started? I've been hearing about it for the last 6 months (or more).
People are acting like a recession is the end of the world. I’ve lived through four previous ones. They last for 12-18 months, and absolutely suck if you’re in an industry that’s particularly affected. Then growth resumes & we’re back to the start of a normal business cycle. I see no evidence that this recession will be worse than others.
Yeah except for the fact the the US has record deficits and can't stimulate its way out this time until inflation stops. It will also blow up the deficit even more. Once people lose faith in the USD because US debt is massive, everything goes to hell as the world ditches the dollar.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 15:35
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you do with your money in a situation like this.
I’ve been steady investing 15-% of my net paycheck every 2 weeks into my taxable brokerage account. I’m going to just more doing this. It’s worked out well for me
That's fine, just don't expect rebounds like 2008-2021. The era of easy money and the bull market is over. Bear markets can last for very, veryong times. You better lrepr.for holding 10+ years in a worst case scenario. The Fed put is over because inflation is out of control. Bond yields are crawling out of their grave, which means there will be very attractive options in the future besides investing in stocks. Trillions may flow from stocks and into bonds.
The federal funds rate now is still lower than it was from most of 2017 through the start of the pandemic, though -- money is still relatively easy compared to pre-2008 days...
Anonymous
06/16/2022 15:05
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
the sky is falling...the sky is falling...
If you cannot see the risks for an impending recession, you are just dumb at this point.
Can we please just get this recession started? I've been hearing about it for the last 6 months (or more).
People are acting like a recession is the end of the world. I’ve lived through four previous ones. They last for 12-18 months, and absolutely suck if you’re in an industry that’s particularly affected. Then growth resumes & we’re back to the start of a normal business cycle. I see no evidence that this recession will be worse than others.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 14:30
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
the sky is falling...the sky is falling...
If you cannot see the risks for an impending recession, you are just dumb at this point.
Can we please just get this recession started? I've been hearing about it for the last 6 months (or more).
Anonymous
06/16/2022 14:25
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've been half cash since early Jan and will start DCA at 3500 but I dont think that's going to be the bottom... Probably closer to 3000
Ok good plan - but if it doesn't get there will you just leave it in cash indefinitely?
I have no reason to believe today is the bottom.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 13:12
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:I've been half cash since early Jan and will start DCA at 3500 but I dont think that's going to be the bottom... Probably closer to 3000
Ok good plan - but if it doesn't get there will you just leave it in cash indefinitely?
Anonymous
06/16/2022 12:22
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
I've been half cash since early Jan and will start DCA at 3500 but I dont think that's going to be the bottom... Probably closer to 3000
Anonymous
06/16/2022 11:50
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Bear markets are when stock pickers prove their value and worth. Even in bear markets, there are companies that will skyrocket in value because of innovation - improving efficiency, creating new tech, bringing a new product (or class of products) to market, etc.
Get busy studying and trying to pick winners. There's no easy money for the next few years.
Get busy studying and trying to pick winners. There's no easy money for the next few years.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 11:42
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
the sky is falling...the sky is falling...
If you cannot see the risks for an impending recession, you are just dumb at this point.
What are most of us going to do? A vast majority of the posters on this board are invested longer term- or at least medium term. You just want to gloat that you predicted a stock market crash. Good for you? But most people here aren’t trying to play the market. So worrying about this crash or your gloating isn’t particularly helpful.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 11:23
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
the sky is falling...the sky is falling...
If you cannot see the risks for an impending recession, you are just dumb at this point.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 11:05
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
But how low is it going? Is a recession priced in?
Yes tell us that.
Anonymous
06/16/2022 11:03
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
the sky is falling...the sky is falling...
Anonymous
06/16/2022 11:00
Subject: 2001, 2008, or 2022
Anonymous wrote:Told. You. So.
But go ahead and keep buying the dip like programmed fools.
This market will keep drilling with the insane Fed hikes and a much more hawkish FF rate at YE than was expected. Costs for borrowing skyrocket now. So many companies earnings are going to tank. A giant reset of PE for the market will take place. Buy the dippers are buying at highs and will be stuck for a very, very long time. The era with a. Fed put is over.
But how low is it going? Is a recession priced in?