Yes, a girl turned down Harvard for Duke last year. Another girl turned down Harvard for Stanford the year before last. In fact, every year students turned down Harvard for other schools, as Harvard admits more than 10 from TJ every year but only 5 or so chose to attend.

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Anonymous wrote:My TJ 2022 DD with >4.5 GPA + 1580 SAT didn't get in to the 3 Ivy's that she applied to or Duke. It still hurts sometimes especially when people say "being a girl is a hook for STEM" because that is not at all true even with high stats.

Last year was really hard so there isn’t much more your daughter likely could have done. I heard a girl in STEM turned down Harvard for Duke last year, is that true?

Yep a TJ girl turned down Harvard for Duke last year. She was a top student so good for Duke.

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Anonymous wrote:My TJ 2022 DD with >4.5 GPA + 1580 SAT didn't get in to the 3 Ivy's that she applied to or Duke. It still hurts sometimes especially when people say "being a girl is a hook for STEM" because that is not at all true even with high stats.

Last year was really hard so there isn’t much more your daughter likely could have done. I heard a girl in STEM turned down Harvard for Duke last year, is that true?

But the fact remains i.e. if you are a girl in STEM with high stats, you are NOT given admittance in a silver platter to an elite school just because you are a girl. As more schools try to narrow down the gender gap, girls are competing among themselves and boys among boys. And so, the accomplishments needed for an average girl to get into a T50+ school is less than it is required by a boy. Boys have more energy in general and do a lot if they are motivated, and so the competition is fierce among them. Also, gender birth rate is around 105 boys per 100 girls, so there are more boys in general.

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Anonymous wrote:My TJ 2022 DD with >4.5 GPA + 1580 SAT didn't get in to the 3 Ivy's that she applied to or Duke. It still hurts sometimes especially when people say "being a girl is a hook for STEM" because that is not at all true even with high stats.

Last year was really hard so there isn’t much more your daughter likely could have done. I heard a girl in STEM turned down Harvard for Duke last year, is that true?

i am not aware of it. i know a girl turned down MIT for Harvard, but i haven't heard of any turning down Harvard for Duke.

Anonymous wrote:DS is TJHSST. 4.4+ and 36 ACT.

University of Chicago Class of 2027. He will attend.

The Chicago Dean of Admissions said in a EA welcome call yesterday that the Class of 2027 admit rate at Chicago will be approx 4%.

That is nuts. Such a crapshoot.

Apply EA - that’s all I can say.

Very cool. When DS was complaining about the essay questions, I knew the school wasn't/isn't for him!

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Anonymous wrote:TJ is incredibly competitive so it’s hard to tell if admissions-wise kids who are good (but not the best at TJ) would have been better off staying at their base school. DC was a good student at TJ and was fortunate to receive acceptances by Northwestern, Cornell, Rice among others. But rejected or waitlisted from HYPSM, Duke, Columbia, Caltech, UPenn, Brown. At the time we wondered if an acceptance could’ve been earned from one of the latter 10 schools if DC graduated from regular public with everything else

Even though your kid did not get into HYPSM, Duke ..., your DC should have easy handling college courts than most students who graduated from regular public schools (at least for the first two years college courts). This based on experiences with my two kids.

have no idea what TJ is but I will say this - my oldest DC graduated top 10% from an above average public hs in the Northeast, got into a Nescac with a sports hook, and has academically “outperformed all of the private school kids” - his words not mine. Granted these are mostly not nova kids, but kids who went to schools like choate, phillips exeter, newark academy, etc. I have no idea why, just providing one small anecdote from a kid who believes his public school education prepared him for college just fine. That said, a ton of kids from his high school probably “fell through the cracks”, which is one of the real value drivers for a private - making sure your kid stays on track.

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Anonymous wrote:My TJ 2022 DD with >4.5 GPA + 1580 SAT didn't get in to the 3 Ivy's that she applied to or Duke. It still hurts sometimes especially when people say "being a girl is a hook for STEM" because that is not at all true even with high stats.

Last year was really hard so there isn’t much more your daughter likely could have done. I heard a girl in STEM turned down Harvard for Duke last year, is that true?

From TJ? I heard same

Anonymous wrote:My TJ 2022 DD with >4.5 GPA + 1580 SAT didn't get in to the 3 Ivy's that she applied to or Duke. It still hurts sometimes especially when people say "being a girl is a hook for STEM" because that is not at all true even with high stats.

Last year was really hard so there isn’t much more your daughter likely could have done. I heard a girl in STEM turned down Harvard for Duke last year, is that true?

My TJ 2022 DD with >4.5 GPA + 1580 SAT didn't get in to the 3 Ivy's that she applied to or Duke. It still hurts sometimes especially when people say "being a girl is a hook for STEM" because that is not at all true even with high stats.

Anonymous wrote:DS is TJHSST. 4.4+ and 36 ACT.

University of Chicago Class of 2027. He will attend.

The Chicago Dean of Admissions said in a EA welcome call yesterday that the Class of 2027 admit rate at Chicago will be approx 4%.

That is nuts. Such a crapshoot.

Apply EA - that’s all I can say.

Acceptance rates aren't everything though. My child, bless his heart, is definitely not academically qualified for UChicago. Yet they sent him lots of mail encouraging him to apply. Now he wants to apply because he thinks UChicago is interested in him, but seeing his excitement I didn't have the heart to tell him they seem to send lots of kids mail. For reference, we didn't get any similar mail from ivy league schools or other top schools like Stanford, Duke, or MIT. So I wouldn't be surprised if those schools could lower their acceptance rates by a lot if they had similar mail campaigns. Just my 2 cents.

Anonymous wrote:TJ is incredibly competitive so it’s hard to tell if admissions-wise kids who are good (but not the best at TJ) would have been better off staying at their base school. DC was a good student at TJ and was fortunate to receive acceptances by Northwestern, Cornell, Rice among others. But rejected or waitlisted from HYPSM, Duke, Columbia, Caltech, UPenn, Brown. At the time we wondered if an acceptance could’ve been earned from one of the latter 10 schools if DC graduated from regular public with everything else

Even though your kid did not get into HYPSM, Duke ..., your DC should have easy handling college courts than most students who graduated from regular public schools (at least for the first two years college courts). This based on experiences with my two kids.

Anonymous wrote:Wow TJ and 4.0+ and still so hard..

Curious..are TJ kids with a 3.75 to 4 GPA and average EC profile, screwed?

Are they worse off at TJ, compared to getting the same stats at their base school?

Yes, the lowest at TJ

Anonymous wrote:DS is TJHSST. 4.4+ and 36 ACT.

University of Chicago Class of 2027. He will attend.

The Chicago Dean of Admissions said in a EA welcome call yesterday that the Class of 2027 admit rate at Chicago will be approx 4%.

That is nuts. Such a crapshoot.

Apply EA - that’s all I can say.

Congratulations to your DS. My DS is still waiting for any good news with the same GPA and SAT 1580.

DS is TJHSST. 4.4+ and 36 ACT.

University of Chicago Class of 2027. He will attend.

The Chicago Dean of Admissions said in a EA welcome call yesterday that the Class of 2027 admit rate at Chicago will be approx 4%.

That is nuts. Such a crapshoot.

Apply EA - that’s all I can say.

Agree. with a 3.75 at TJ chances at ives etc are zip.

But as the pp said.. thats just prestige. a kid with a 3.75 at TJ has built up serious academic skills that will serve them well, wherever they go. the key is to make sure ur kid does not burn out after 4 yrs at TJ.

Both my kids went to TJ. 3.5 to 3.8 GPA. No UVa, VTech etc but landed up at decent OOS schools in CA ( we were fortunate enough to be able to afford it..) - both excelled academically and socially. TJ foundations are solid. Trust the process!