Anonymous wrote:While I'm sure that the people designing this had noble intentions, I think this is a poor way to construct the lesson (obviously, absent context. It's possible this slide was followed by a very nuanced discussion, but I'm guessing, for the purposes of this response anyways, that it wasn't.)
I think just about everyone on here agrees that in general, teaching kids that some of them may be more fortunate than others, or that some may face obstacles that others don't - that's a fine lesson.
I think that simply throwing out these labels and dividing people into 'privileged' and 'not privileged' camps isn't super helpful. Some have pointed out that the intent behind this is basically to teach the same as the above, but there's clearly a large segment of the population that isn't getting that message from this - even if you think they're wrong to take it that way, is a message getting successfully communicated if the recipients of the message instead feel like they're being labeled as a public enemy for things they can't change? If it causes the 'privileged' to feel defensive instead of empathetic, how is that helpful?
What's missing here is nuance in the discussion. Saying 'white people have it easier' isn't as helpful, for example, as sharing things like unconscious bias and statistics on disparities of how harsh prison sentences are, for example.
Anonymous wrote:Moreover, why do they single out Christians as a privilege? How many privileged Christians are on the FCPS School Board? And, what percentage do they represent?
This is a great example. There is such a thing as Christian privilege, but I'd argue that it's not simple things like people saying 'merry christmas' or the school system giving kids a break over Christmas or the fact that nothing is open on Sunday morning. Where we see Christian privilege in our society is where Christians can get passes or breaks, especially in the legal system, for being a Christian or holding Christian views. For example,
-Parole boards look more favorably at someone who has 'found jesus' in prison than someone who hasn't.
-Judges might make attendance at Christian religious programs a requirement for parole (like AA) and not allow alternative programs
-Christians often get legal rulings allowing them to 'opt out'/disregard laws they don't like (Little Sisters of the Poor, Hobby Lobby, everyone trying to opt out of covid vaccination, Bladensburg Cross) but other religions often cannot get courts to allow them to opt out of laws they don't like under the same statutes (TST members cannot opt out of pressure tactics around abortion![]()
-Inmates scheduled for execution are told that they can only have a Christian priest there for their last rites.
-Towns/School boards will allow Christian proselytizing in government/school forums up until another religion asks for equal treatment, then the others are shut out. You see this a lot of time with invocations, handing out bibles in school, prayer at school, etc.
-Chrstians may be allowed to wear tokens of their faith (ie, cross necklace) but dress codes may expressly prohibit visual tokens of other faiths (ie, hijabs).
Instead of just saying 'Christians are privileged' I think it's important to explain exactly what that looks like, so that people understand the types of issues we have in our society, and have a better idea of how they might fix these things.
Anonymous wrote:Moreover, why do they single out Christians as a privilege? How many privileged Christians are on the FCPS School Board? And, what percentage do they represent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they hadn't dinged the military, it most likely never would have been reported by the left news sources.
“Dinged”?
How is saying that being in the military is a privilege “dinging” the military?
It’s not a negative.
Discussions of privilege never seem to mention any positives.
Some people think that being in the military gives you an advantage in life. That may or may not be correct, but it’s not a “ding”.
Think of it as being in a good/lucky position.
If they meant lucky or blessed then the activity would have said lucky or blessed.
But it said "privileged" which has become a pejorative slur that is synonymous with entitled and undeserving, particularly in public education.
No, it says “Identifying Your Privilege” which isn’t describing a person as much as it’s describing their situation/environment. Things beyond your control.
It’s a poor choice of language because it can be misconstrued.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tyson graduated from Dartmouth? Privilege!!!!!
So, who is the "author" that Tyson referred to in his response?
Where is Tyson's response?
I’ve never heard of this person until this thread. I would like to hear his response, since he approved this.
If it is Doug Tyson... he really is an idiot.
I would like to see his statement too.
Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if he, himself created it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tyson graduated from Dartmouth? Privilege!!!!!
So, who is the "author" that Tyson referred to in his response?
Where is Tyson's response?
I’ve never heard of this person until this thread. I would like to hear his response, since he approved this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they hadn't dinged the military, it most likely never would have been reported by the left news sources.
“Dinged”?
How is saying that being in the military is a privilege “dinging” the military?
It’s not a negative.
Discussions of privilege never seem to mention any positives.
Some people think that being in the military gives you an advantage in life. That may or may not be correct, but it’s not a “ding”.
Think of it as being in a good/lucky position.
Anonymous wrote:Stop it now
That’s the Federalist omg propaganda galore
CRT not taught in one classroom in America Youngkin lied you fell for it now you get crappy privatized schools oh and he wants coal back as an energy source.
You all are idiots and the heritage foundation now in charge of … again VA is headed to a very dark place
Jobs taxes you all are hosed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tyson graduated from Dartmouth? Privilege!!!!!
So, who is the "author" that Tyson referred to in his response?
Where is Tyson's response?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they hadn't dinged the military, it most likely never would have been reported by the left news sources.
“Dinged”?
How is saying that being in the military is a privilege “dinging” the military?
It’s not a negative.
Discussions of privilege never seem to mention any positives.
Some people think that being in the military gives you an advantage in life. That may or may not be correct, but it’s not a “ding”.
Think of it as being in a good/lucky position.
If they meant lucky or blessed then the activity would have said lucky or blessed.
But it said "privileged" which has become a pejorative slur that is synonymous with entitled and undeserving, particularly in public education.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they hadn't dinged the military, it most likely never would have been reported by the left news sources.
“Dinged”?
How is saying that being in the military is a privilege “dinging” the military?
It’s not a negative.
Discussions of privilege never seem to mention any positives.
Some people think that being in the military gives you an advantage in life. That may or may not be correct, but it’s not a “ding”.
Think of it as being in a good/lucky position.
If they meant lucky or blessed then the activity would have said lucky or blessed.
But it said "privileged" which has become a pejorative slur that is synonymous with entitled and undeserving, particularly in public education.
Anonymous wrote:Stop it now
That’s the Federalist omg propaganda galore
CRT not taught in one classroom in America Youngkin lied you fell for it now you get crappy privatized schools oh and he wants coal back as an energy source.
You all are idiots and the heritage foundation now in charge of … again VA is headed to a very dark place
Jobs taxes you all are hosed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If they hadn't dinged the military, it most likely never would have been reported by the left news sources.
“Dinged”?
How is saying that being in the military is a privilege “dinging” the military?
It’s not a negative.
Discussions of privilege never seem to mention any positives.
Some people think that being in the military gives you an advantage in life. That may or may not be correct, but it’s not a “ding”.
Think of it as being in a good/lucky position.
Lucky to have your parent away for months or years at a time, missing special events, holidays, and seeing a child grow?
Sure. Uh-huh.
So maybe many (most?) people wouldn’t consider it being advantageous but the person who put it on that chart thought it was. It wasn’t a “ding”.