Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A question:

If gender is indeed fluid then it stands to reason that a boy who identifies as a girl will, at some point, apply to one of the local girls' schools. What will happen at that moment?

Will he be offered admission and if indeed he matriculates will he be forced to shower, dress for sports, and use a separate bathroom? After all if he is indeed a girl why would he be separated? What do we do if he, a marginal male athlete, begins to break the school athletic records?

So think it through.

Why do you assume it hasn't happened?

Good private schools are hard to get into, and finding a reason to not admit an inconvenient candidate is not hard. “Every year unfortunately we decline to admit a large number of highly qualified applicants…”. The letter writes itself.

I wonder how careful they’d have to be to avoid a discrimination suit in DC. If 100% of trans girls who apply are rejected, the complaint writes itself

I guess you are right. I wonder whether there are enough trans girls for this to be an issue. But I could also see trans girls seeking out places like all-girls schools as welcoming environments.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should count out students who don’t identify as girls.

They have no problem doing it during admissions. If its any of the local schools, the odds are both their mission and literature refer explicitly to educating girls and the benefits of same sex education.

This cannot be true? Seriously? This is crazy. You choose a girls education because you want that path. There is nothing wrong with being a girl. Sheesh. Why do parents put up with this?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A question:

If gender is indeed fluid then it stands to reason that a boy who identifies as a girl will, at some point, apply to one of the local girls' schools. What will happen at that moment?

Will he be offered admission and if indeed he matriculates will he be forced to shower, dress for sports, and use a separate bathroom? After all if he is indeed a girl why would he be separated? What do we do if he, a marginal male athlete, begins to break the school athletic records?

So think it through.

Which girls' school has a time machine to take students back to the era when students showered at school?

My daughter is on the swim team, attends 6am practice 3 times a week and showers before heading to her first class.

Anonymous wrote:A question:

If gender is indeed fluid then it stands to reason that a boy who identifies as a girl will, at some point, apply to one of the local girls' schools. What will happen at that moment?

Will he be offered admission and if indeed he matriculates will he be forced to shower, dress for sports, and use a separate bathroom? After all if he is indeed a girl why would he be separated? What do we do if he, a marginal male athlete, begins to break the school athletic records?

So think it through.

Which girls' school has a time machine to take students back to the era when students showered at school?

They generate more trans and confused kids themselves with their new curriculum, speakers and affinity clubs, so no need to admit more and more.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A question:

If gender is indeed fluid then it stands to reason that a boy who identifies as a girl will, at some point, apply to one of the local girls' schools. What will happen at that moment?

Will he be offered admission and if indeed he matriculates will he be forced to shower, dress for sports, and use a separate bathroom? After all if he is indeed a girl why would he be separated? What do we do if he, a marginal male athlete, begins to break the school athletic records?

So think it through.

Why do you assume it hasn't happened?

Good private schools are hard to get into, and finding a reason to not admit an inconvenient candidate is not hard. “Every year unfortunately we decline to admit a large number of highly qualified applicants…”. The letter writes itself.

I wonder how careful they’d have to be to avoid a discrimination suit in DC. If 100% of trans girls who apply are rejected, the complaint writes itself

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Secondly, you mention ASD/ADHD and gender issues. Yet you take the comorbidities as a common fact. The only common fact is these types can’t pick up social cues, often have poor executive functioning skills, poor verbal communication, and only focus on their hyper focuses. Plus often get anxiety and depressed .
Therefore they are HIGHLY susceptible to any internet or new age health class chatter about “feeling left out” and how “changing your fluid gender might be the way to fit in”. So they try it out. And the group of trans welcome them and they feel like they hit the jackpot for a bit.

But their underlying disorder(s), anxiety and depression resurface yet they are now going a different life route entirely thanks to gender dysphoria, trying to fit in, self diagnosing, and Affirmative Therapy therapists.

I'm the PP you replied to. Not sure why your tone is argumentative...?

Me: Correction with ASD and ADHD

You: Aha! See, you admit it!

??

As I said, for me personally, the line is creative exploration that is noninvasive, nonmedical, and respectful to others. That feels pretty straightforward to me. Dress how you want, speak how you want, dye your hair blue, so long as you are kind to yourself and others.

In my experience, medical interventions are a godsend for a very small number of people when (1) they have capacity to choose for themselves, and (2) the benefits clearly outweigh the costs and risks.

Love and compassion, however, are a godsend for a much larger subset of people!

Anyway, you may find this Wapo article interesting. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/11/24/trans-kids-therapy-psychologist/

Thanks for keeping the conversation respectful.

Define small number of people versus what the private and public middle schools are clocking in currently.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:as a feminist and mom. I am concerned that young women/girls today, can't embrace their gender and identity without feeling "less than"-- we didn't fight these battles for them to fade into some "they/them" back ground or for trans women to say they "always felt like a woman" --no you didn't.

+ a million

+10000

This is getting presented way to early and way out of context to young children.

Starting w the Jazz Jennings book. Look at them now now, she needs to release an update book on what a brat they’ve become: obese, drugs, spoilt, uneducated, unemployed, and still depressed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A question:

If gender is indeed fluid then it stands to reason that a boy who identifies as a girl will, at some point, apply to one of the local girls' schools. What will happen at that moment?

Will he be offered admission and if indeed he matriculates will he be forced to shower, dress for sports, and use a separate bathroom? After all if he is indeed a girl why would he be separated? What do we do if he, a marginal male athlete, begins to break the school athletic records?

So think it through.

Why do you assume it hasn't happened?

Good private schools are hard to get into, and finding a reason to not admit an inconvenient candidate is not hard. “Every year unfortunately we decline to admit a large number of highly qualified applicants…”. The letter writes itself.

Anonymous wrote:A question:

If gender is indeed fluid then it stands to reason that a boy who identifies as a girl will, at some point, apply to one of the local girls' schools. What will happen at that moment?

Will he be offered admission and if indeed he matriculates will he be forced to shower, dress for sports, and use a separate bathroom? After all if he is indeed a girl why would he be separated? What do we do if he, a marginal male athlete, begins to break the school athletic records?

So think it through.

Why do you assume it hasn't happened?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately little of what you just wrote is true.

Humans are born male or female. Saying you’re male doesn’t transform your ovaries into testicles. One can “identify” as any number of things but that doesn’t mean you’re actually that thing.

Homosexuality shouldn’t be confused with gender identity. They are two separate things. Cisgender is a term that’s employed to rationalize the irrational. I don’t care how you identify that up to you, but to force feed contemporary psychobabble onto young girls by their teachers is nothing short of brainwashing them. Tell they to accept everyone at face value nothing more nothing less.

I guess you’ll tell us that employing drugs to suppress puberty is a rational act?

Most major professional associations of medical and mental health professionals uniequivocally support creating welcoming environments for trans-identified or nonbinary-idenitfied adolescents, especially in schools. Just search for the pro-trans platforms expressed by the American Psychological Assocation, the American Psychiatric Association, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, just to name a few.

I certainly hope you didn't slip down that slippery slope in your last sentence.

Institutional capture is real and it’s happened. Look at the ACLU. Suing people to stop FOIA requests because they don’t want data on transwomen in prisons exposed. The founders must be rolling in their graves. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/aclu-sues-private-citizen-to-suppress-public-records-request-in-washington-state-301268835.html

The institutional capture is staggeringly real and even terrifying. Most people don't object or protest because they're afraid of their own careers. I've read wincing claims and statements in scientific and medical journals that have absolutely no scientific or biological basis, it's little more than "we believe" because it's now deemed morally correct and just, it's quasi-religious and starting to become a dogma in that you're not allowed to challenge the "consensus" without being deemed heretical. And "peer-reviewed" in virtually all cases turns out to not really be peer-reviewed, just an affirmation, so I see cites back to the same original unfounded claim.

Really have no idea how it's all going to play out in the long run. Part of me thinks this madness will have to devour itself soon enough and in a way it does seem like it's starting to happen, but it also depends on how entrenched the ideological corruption has become in institutions and higher education.

A question:

If gender is indeed fluid then it stands to reason that a boy who identifies as a girl will, at some point, apply to one of the local girls' schools. What will happen at that moment?

Will he be offered admission and if indeed he matriculates will he be forced to shower, dress for sports, and use a separate bathroom? After all if he is indeed a girl why would he be separated? What do we do if he, a marginal male athlete, begins to break the school athletic records?

So think it through.

* sorry, CONNECTION with ADHD and ASD

Anonymous wrote:Secondly, you mention ASD/ADHD and gender issues. Yet you take the comorbidities as a common fact. The only common fact is these types can’t pick up social cues, often have poor executive functioning skills, poor verbal communication, and only focus on their hyper focuses. Plus often get anxiety and depressed .
Therefore they are HIGHLY susceptible to any internet or new age health class chatter about “feeling left out” and how “changing your fluid gender might be the way to fit in”. So they try it out. And the group of trans welcome them and they feel like they hit the jackpot for a bit.

But their underlying disorder(s), anxiety and depression resurface yet they are now going a different life route entirely thanks to gender dysphoria, trying to fit in, self diagnosing, and Affirmative Therapy therapists.

I'm the PP you replied to. Not sure why your tone is argumentative...?

Me: Correction with ASD and ADHD

You: Aha! See, you admit it!

??

As I said, for me personally, the line is creative exploration that is noninvasive, nonmedical, and respectful to others. That feels pretty straightforward to me. Dress how you want, speak how you want, dye your hair blue, so long as you are kind to yourself and others.

In my experience, medical interventions are a godsend for a very small number of people when (1) they have capacity to choose for themselves, and (2) the benefits clearly outweigh the costs and risks.

Love and compassion, however, are a godsend for a much larger subset of people!

Anyway, you may find this Wapo article interesting. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/11/24/trans-kids-therapy-psychologist/

Thanks for keeping the conversation respectful.