Anonymous
10/28/2021 11:50
Subject: Re:How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:John McWhorter is right in his new book. Any questioning of dei efforts in school is to be met by the chiding of woke scold white allies who squelch dissent from their world view. It’s as if questioning restorative justice, or its impact on preventing or mitigating bullying, is itself a racist act these days. Enjoy the coming push back as people slowly understand that free speech is under threat. The continued infantalization of a broad segment of the population with pandering, condescending “equity” polices will have inverse consequences. Parents will leave public schools if they’re kids are guineas pigs to poorly proven restorative justice programs. They’ll also leave if their children’s class rigor is being diluted in the name fairness. You all seem to have drunk the koolaid. It was only poured in the last few years, and if anyone doesn’t want to drink it, or questions what’s in it, you appear to want them shunned or shamed. Look at the pushback. Look at Virginia polls. It’s not just a bunch of white supremacists scared of slavery talk. It’s parents saying “what the fk are these people doing? Are they going to teach? Or are they going to implement questionable educational polices that lower the bar and make our kids less safe”. So get outside your little arrogant bubbles and actually see things objectively.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I hope you can find time to go back through the thread - I feel like many of these concerns were addressed, but happy to respond to any specific worries if you have a particular concern.
They weren’t addressed. You threw out a claim to have educational credentials and that your controversial theories were sound because you assert they are sound. The needle has not moved an inch and everyone is still waiting to learn how restorative justice is beneficial.
There are a pretty good set of experiential examples that I thought backed up the theoretical practices I diagrammed. Please let me know if you'd like an example of how RJ looks in a situation and I can share my experiences. Happy to help talk through concerns!
There are many studies outlining the challenges of RJ actually working in schools:
https://hechingerreport.org/the-promise-of-restorative-justice-starts-to-falter-under-rigorous-research/
This was particularly concerning:
The academic performance of middle schoolers actually worsened at schools that tried restorative justice. Math test scores deteriorated for black students in particular.
The number of student arrests was similar at both treatment and control schools. That suggests the restorative justice experiment wasn’t doing much to alleviate the school-to-prison pipeline.
There's a lot of $$ being made by Restorative Justice consultants however.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 11:41
Subject: How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
There are some racist trolls posting in the DCPS forum these days. I wish they could be blocked!
Anonymous
10/28/2021 11:32
Subject: Re:How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John McWhorter is right in his new book. Any questioning of dei efforts in school is to be met by the chiding of woke scold white allies who squelch dissent from their world view. It’s as if questioning restorative justice, or its impact on preventing or mitigating bullying, is itself a racist act these days. Enjoy the coming push back as people slowly understand that free speech is under threat. The continued infantalization of a broad segment of the population with pandering, condescending “equity” polices will have inverse consequences. Parents will leave public schools if they’re kids are guineas pigs to poorly proven restorative justice programs. They’ll also leave if their children’s class rigor is being diluted in the name fairness. You all seem to have drunk the koolaid. It was only poured in the last few years, and if anyone doesn’t want to drink it, or questions what’s in it, you appear to want them shunned or shamed. Look at the pushback. Look at Virginia polls. It’s not just a bunch of white supremacists scared of slavery talk. It’s parents saying “what the fk are these people doing? Are they going to teach? Or are they going to implement questionable educational polices that lower the bar and make our kids less safe”. So get outside your little arrogant bubbles and actually see things objectively.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I hope you can find time to go back through the thread - I feel like many of these concerns were addressed, but happy to respond to any specific worries if you have a particular concern.
They weren’t addressed. You threw out a claim to have educational credentials and that your controversial theories were sound because you assert they are sound. The needle has not moved an inch and everyone is still waiting to learn how restorative justice is beneficial.
There are a pretty good set of experiential examples that I thought backed up the theoretical practices I diagrammed. Please let me know if you'd like an example of how RJ looks in a situation and I can share my experiences. Happy to help talk through concerns!
Please explain, based on your use of RJ principles, the following: (1) how many instances of bullying behavior were addressed by RJ and (2) what were the instances of recidivism with respect to the aggressors and (3) for those aggressors who WERE recidivists, what was the next disciplinary step taken---more RJ or were further disciplinary measures taken? and (4) for the kids who were victims, were they further victimized?
I'll try to answer these in order, but there may be some overlap, so bear with me:
We would address any instances of bullying first with an RJ approach. In my experience both as a classroom teacher and administrator, I would say its been very rare to see true recidivism of bullying; maybe 5% or less of bullying continued. Students were either able to correct their behavior within 2-3 weeks or were placed in a class that would set them up for better success.
Students that were bullies may sometimes need an RJ approach to other behaviors (being disruptive, defiant, etc...) but I'm not sure if you are considering these to be the same sort of behavior since in these cases the victim isn't one particular student.
If a student continues to display aggresssive or bullying behaviors, RJ allows for a menu of consequences, based on what seems most appropriate. These could include a daily check in and check out with an administrator or teacher (with that information being shared at home); daily or weekly counseling on behavior regulation; isolation during times when the student displays aggressive behavior most commonly; in the most extreme instances we would have a student in ISS to ensure safety of other students and teachers.
I have to be honest, I cannot think of one instance where a student was consistently victimized by a bully or several over the year. My opinion (and thats all this is), is that by frontloading the importance of reporting and being allies, we were able to identify bullying and other aggressive behaviors early which does help eradicate aggressors.
I might have missed something; if I did, please let me know
Anonymous
10/28/2021 11:19
Subject: Re:How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
John McWhorter is right in his new book. Any questioning of dei efforts in school is to be met by the chiding of woke scold white allies who squelch dissent from their world view. It’s as if questioning restorative justice, or its impact on preventing or mitigating bullying, is itself a racist act these days. Enjoy the coming push back as people slowly understand that free speech is under threat. The continued infantalization of a broad segment of the population with pandering, condescending “equity” polices will have inverse consequences. Parents will leave public schools if they’re kids are guineas pigs to poorly proven restorative justice programs. They’ll also leave if their children’s class rigor is being diluted in the name fairness. You all seem to have drunk the koolaid. It was only poured in the last few years, and if anyone doesn’t want to drink it, or questions what’s in it, you appear to want them shunned or shamed. Look at the pushback. Look at Virginia polls. It’s not just a bunch of white supremacists scared of slavery talk. It’s parents saying “what the fk are these people doing? Are they going to teach? Or are they going to implement questionable educational polices that lower the bar and make our kids less safe”. So get outside your little arrogant bubbles and actually see things objectively.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I hope you can find time to go back through the thread - I feel like many of these concerns were addressed, but happy to respond to any specific worries if you have a particular concern.
They weren’t addressed. You threw out a claim to have educational credentials and that your controversial theories were sound because you assert they are sound. The needle has not moved an inch and everyone is still waiting to learn how restorative justice is beneficial.
There are a pretty good set of experiential examples that I thought backed up the theoretical practices I diagrammed. Please let me know if you'd like an example of how RJ looks in a situation and I can share my experiences. Happy to help talk through concerns!
Please explain, based on your use of RJ principles, the following: (1) how many instances of bullying behavior were addressed by RJ and (2) what were the instances of recidivism with respect to the aggressors and (3) for those aggressors who WERE recidivists, what was the next disciplinary step taken---more RJ or were further disciplinary measures taken? and (4) for the kids who were victims, were they further victimized?
Anonymous
10/28/2021 10:33
Subject: Re:How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:John McWhorter is right in his new book. Any questioning of dei efforts in school is to be met by the chiding of woke scold white allies who squelch dissent from their world view. It’s as if questioning restorative justice, or its impact on preventing or mitigating bullying, is itself a racist act these days. Enjoy the coming push back as people slowly understand that free speech is under threat. The continued infantalization of a broad segment of the population with pandering, condescending “equity” polices will have inverse consequences. Parents will leave public schools if they’re kids are guineas pigs to poorly proven restorative justice programs. They’ll also leave if their children’s class rigor is being diluted in the name fairness. You all seem to have drunk the koolaid. It was only poured in the last few years, and if anyone doesn’t want to drink it, or questions what’s in it, you appear to want them shunned or shamed. Look at the pushback. Look at Virginia polls. It’s not just a bunch of white supremacists scared of slavery talk. It’s parents saying “what the fk are these people doing? Are they going to teach? Or are they going to implement questionable educational polices that lower the bar and make our kids less safe”. So get outside your little arrogant bubbles and actually see things objectively.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I hope you can find time to go back through the thread - I feel like many of these concerns were addressed, but happy to respond to any specific worries if you have a particular concern.
They weren’t addressed. You threw out a claim to have educational credentials and that your controversial theories were sound because you assert they are sound. The needle has not moved an inch and everyone is still waiting to learn how restorative justice is beneficial.
There are a pretty good set of experiential examples that I thought backed up the theoretical practices I diagrammed. Please let me know if you'd like an example of how RJ looks in a situation and I can share my experiences. Happy to help talk through concerns!
Anonymous
10/28/2021 10:28
Subject: Re:How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:John McWhorter is right in his new book. Any questioning of dei efforts in school is to be met by the chiding of woke scold white allies who squelch dissent from their world view. It’s as if questioning restorative justice, or its impact on preventing or mitigating bullying, is itself a racist act these days. Enjoy the coming push back as people slowly understand that free speech is under threat. The continued infantalization of a broad segment of the population with pandering, condescending “equity” polices will have inverse consequences. Parents will leave public schools if they’re kids are guineas pigs to poorly proven restorative justice programs. They’ll also leave if their children’s class rigor is being diluted in the name fairness. You all seem to have drunk the koolaid. It was only poured in the last few years, and if anyone doesn’t want to drink it, or questions what’s in it, you appear to want them shunned or shamed. Look at the pushback. Look at Virginia polls. It’s not just a bunch of white supremacists scared of slavery talk. It’s parents saying “what the fk are these people doing? Are they going to teach? Or are they going to implement questionable educational polices that lower the bar and make our kids less safe”. So get outside your little arrogant bubbles and actually see things objectively.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I hope you can find time to go back through the thread - I feel like many of these concerns were addressed, but happy to respond to any specific worries if you have a particular concern.
They weren’t addressed. You threw out a claim to have educational credentials and that your controversial theories were sound because you assert they are sound. The needle has not moved an inch and everyone is still waiting to learn how restorative justice is beneficial.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 10:08
Subject: Re:How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:John McWhorter is right in his new book. Any questioning of dei efforts in school is to be met by the chiding of woke scold white allies who squelch dissent from their world view. It’s as if questioning restorative justice, or its impact on preventing or mitigating bullying, is itself a racist act these days. Enjoy the coming push back as people slowly understand that free speech is under threat. The continued infantalization of a broad segment of the population with pandering, condescending “equity” polices will have inverse consequences. Parents will leave public schools if they’re kids are guineas pigs to poorly proven restorative justice programs. They’ll also leave if their children’s class rigor is being diluted in the name fairness. You all seem to have drunk the koolaid. It was only poured in the last few years, and if anyone doesn’t want to drink it, or questions what’s in it, you appear to want them shunned or shamed. Look at the pushback. Look at Virginia polls. It’s not just a bunch of white supremacists scared of slavery talk. It’s parents saying “what the fk are these people doing? Are they going to teach? Or are they going to implement questionable educational polices that lower the bar and make our kids less safe”. So get outside your little arrogant bubbles and actually see things objectively.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I hope you can find time to go back through the thread - I feel like many of these concerns were addressed, but happy to respond to any specific worries if you have a particular concern.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 09:58
Subject: Re:How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
John McWhorter is right in his new book. Any questioning of dei efforts in school is to be met by the chiding of woke scold white allies who squelch dissent from their world view. It’s as if questioning restorative justice, or its impact on preventing or mitigating bullying, is itself a racist act these days. Enjoy the coming push back as people slowly understand that free speech is under threat. The continued infantalization of a broad segment of the population with pandering, condescending “equity” polices will have inverse consequences. Parents will leave public schools if they’re kids are guineas pigs to poorly proven restorative justice programs. They’ll also leave if their children’s class rigor is being diluted in the name fairness. You all seem to have drunk the koolaid. It was only poured in the last few years, and if anyone doesn’t want to drink it, or questions what’s in it, you appear to want them shunned or shamed. Look at the pushback. Look at Virginia polls. It’s not just a bunch of white supremacists scared of slavery talk. It’s parents saying “what the fk are these people doing? Are they going to teach? Or are they going to implement questionable educational polices that lower the bar and make our kids less safe”. So get outside your little arrogant bubbles and actually see things objectively.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 00:41
Subject: How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Deal is a train wreck. Defund the police & “equity” nonsense don’t seem to be working super well.
Is this how white people really feel? That makes me so sad.
How "white people" feel? Way to engage in racial stereotyping.
wow u racists really don’t quit
LOL you don't think non-white people can be racist? You really do live a privileged life
Anonymous
10/28/2021 00:26
Subject: How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Deal is a train wreck. Defund the police & “equity” nonsense don’t seem to be working super well.
Is this how white people really feel? That makes me so sad.
How "white people" feel? Way to engage in racial stereotyping.
wow u racists really don’t quit
Anonymous
10/28/2021 00:16
Subject: How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Deal is a train wreck. Defund the police & “equity” nonsense don’t seem to be working super well.
Is this how white people really feel? That makes me so sad.
How "white people" feel? Way to engage in racial stereotyping.
Anonymous
10/27/2021 23:39
Subject: How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Deal is a train wreck. Defund the police & “equity” nonsense don’t seem to be working super well.
Is this how white people really feel? That makes me so sad.
The other fun part is how they pretend that “defund the police” and equity are completely divorced from race.
Anonymous
10/27/2021 23:35
Subject: How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Amazing. This is without a doubt the most racist thing I've seen on DCUM. The most fascinating part is that I don't think any of these parents mind being called racists.
I've read this whole thread and no one has mentioned anyone's race. DCPS is a highly diverse school system, with children and parents of many races and ethnicities. Aren't you the racist for assuming that the aggressive students being discussed here are non-white?
There are ways to be racist other than mentioning someone’s race. Several of them are on display here. But it is fun to have some plausible deniability, is t it?
Anonymous
10/27/2021 22:45
Subject: How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's child abuse to make your kids go to DCPS. Abuse breeds abuse.
My kids never saw a physical fight in all their years at FCPS. Zero.
Ok, except now FCPS is basically copying DCPS.
PP should look at the suspension rates at her precious FCPS!
Anonymous
10/27/2021 22:13
Subject: How many fights did your kid see at Deal this week?
Anonymous wrote:Deal is a train wreck. Defund the police & “equity” nonsense don’t seem to be working super well.
Is this how white people really feel? That makes me so sad.