Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 12:31     Subject: Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Actually they do but with all the inflated scores of the less gifted preppers they get drowned out. There just aren't enough seats.

They don't. They're letting some kids in the ghetto schools into the program with an 85%. That's average.

"Ghetto schools." Cute.

Trolls gotta make a living, too, I guess.


Since my 85% is from CCES that's one of the ghetto schools?


I wonder how someone got into the GT program with an 85% at CCES. Hmmmm.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 12:30     Subject: Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually they do but with all the inflated scores of the less gifted preppers they get drowned out. There just aren't enough seats.

They don't. They're letting some kids in the ghetto schools into the program with an 85%. That's average.

"Ghetto schools." Cute.

Trolls gotta make a living, too, I guess.


Since my 85% is from CCES that's one of the ghetto schools?


What?


I think a PP is calling CCES a ghetto school
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 12:28     Subject: Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually they do but with all the inflated scores of the less gifted preppers they get drowned out. There just aren't enough seats.

They don't. They're letting some kids in the ghetto schools into the program with an 85%. That's average.

"Ghetto schools." Cute.

Trolls gotta make a living, too, I guess.


Since my 85% is from CCES that's one of the ghetto schools?


What?
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 11:51     Subject: Re:Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
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Anonymous wrote:Transparency is not MCPS’s skill set. They will do whatever they can to reach their predetermined goal. MCPS doesn’t care how they impact individual students with their duplicitous agendas.


It's funny I found the information that was on their website in the past thorough and helpful. It seems like a lot of people just jump to these conclusions without ever trying to find answers for themselves.


Speaking of which (NP), it looks like CogAT for Grade 5 select students is November 8-19, 2021.
https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=001338515728546311657:vstdz3h-7gq&q=https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/0455.21_2021_22_Calendar_Web.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjDhKGRi6LzAhWlElkFHf6dAJ4QFnoECAIQAg&usg=AOvVaw2n6YWnLouhn6gP-vZapG-5


Wow, thank you for sharing. Very helpful document.


I get why they test 3rd, 5th and 8th but what's with testing 7th graders?


I'm assuming it has something to do with this: "All Grade 2 students are screened for gifted and talented identification during the second semester of the school year. Students in grades 3, 5 and 7 who are new to Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS) or who have been recommended for re-screening are also screened each school year."

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/enriched/about/faq.aspx


So are they testing to have Cogat as a criterion for magnet selection or just GT identification for kids new to the system?

No one knows anything. I would love for the person who keeps insulting people to provide a link on the MCPS website that "clearly" explains what they are doing this year. MCPS is just an embarrassing organization.


There was a different link at that's what I found helpful back when my kids were that age. It explained everything back then but I guess it's changed so even if it still existed it would be out of date, but FWIW last year was an 85% lottery. That's all you need to know.


Ok so answer me this: they have often said IEP/504 status was taken into consideration. As a parent with a child with one of these, I never got an answer as to whether this allowed iep/504 students into the pool with lower scores, or whether there was a certain number of seats set aside for these students or what impact positive or negative this piece was assigned. Completely smoke and mirrors.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 11:15     Subject: Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
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50% is average. Top 15% is NOT. If a lot of kids fall into the top 15% at your particular school, that's your own over-prepping fault.

LOL... so cute that you think any kid who is top 15% was over prepped.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 11:14     Subject: Re:Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Transparency is not MCPS’s skill set. They will do whatever they can to reach their predetermined goal. MCPS doesn’t care how they impact individual students with their duplicitous agendas.


It's funny I found the information that was on their website in the past thorough and helpful. It seems like a lot of people just jump to these conclusions without ever trying to find answers for themselves.


Speaking of which (NP), it looks like CogAT for Grade 5 select students is November 8-19, 2021.
https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=001338515728546311657:vstdz3h-7gq&q=https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/0455.21_2021_22_Calendar_Web.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjDhKGRi6LzAhWlElkFHf6dAJ4QFnoECAIQAg&usg=AOvVaw2n6YWnLouhn6gP-vZapG-5


Wow, thank you for sharing. Very helpful document.


I get why they test 3rd, 5th and 8th but what's with testing 7th graders?


I'm assuming it has something to do with this: "All Grade 2 students are screened for gifted and talented identification during the second semester of the school year. Students in grades 3, 5 and 7 who are new to Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS) or who have been recommended for re-screening are also screened each school year."

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/enriched/about/faq.aspx


So are they testing to have Cogat as a criterion for magnet selection or just GT identification for kids new to the system?

No one knows anything. I would love for the person who keeps insulting people to provide a link on the MCPS website that "clearly" explains what they are doing this year. MCPS is just an embarrassing organization.


There was a different link at that's what I found helpful back when my kids were that age. It explained everything back then but I guess it's changed so even if it still existed it would be out of date, but FWIW last year was an 85% lottery. That's all you need to know.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 11:12     Subject: Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually they do but with all the inflated scores of the less gifted preppers they get drowned out. There just aren't enough seats.

They don't. They're letting some kids in the ghetto schools into the program with an 85%. That's average.

"Ghetto schools." Cute.

Trolls gotta make a living, too, I guess.


Since my 85% is from CCES that's one of the ghetto schools?
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 11:11     Subject: Re:Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
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Anonymous wrote:Transparency is not MCPS’s skill set. They will do whatever they can to reach their predetermined goal. MCPS doesn’t care how they impact individual students with their duplicitous agendas.


It's funny I found the information that was on their website in the past thorough and helpful. It seems like a lot of people just jump to these conclusions without ever trying to find answers for themselves.


Speaking of which (NP), it looks like CogAT for Grade 5 select students is November 8-19, 2021.
https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=001338515728546311657:vstdz3h-7gq&q=https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/0455.21_2021_22_Calendar_Web.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjDhKGRi6LzAhWlElkFHf6dAJ4QFnoECAIQAg&usg=AOvVaw2n6YWnLouhn6gP-vZapG-5

I am not understanding if this is evidence of transparency or lack of transparency? Seems to me that at the minimum it is evidence of poor communication. Is the CogAT for placement or something else? They are so transparent that no one knows what methodology they will use this year. The problem for MCPS is that it is easy for people to infer bad intent because they are continually so sloppy.


Even if they were to explain you'd fail to grasp it and just complain so I understand why they don't bother.

So you can certainly explain to me in detail how they are using CogAT this year and what other criteria are going to applied and how in detail?

You seem to have a problem insulting people but this will be a 3rd year in a row that MCPS has used a different process and the idea that it is well documented is just untrue. Otherwise it would not be a surprise to people that they are administering CogAT this year.



It sounds like they're using the pre-pandemic process. This would make perfect sense.


Yep

And this is clearly explained on their website? Obviously no.


It is but you need to have some basic reading comprehension to grasp it.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 10:32     Subject: Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?


50% is average. Top 15% is NOT. If a lot of kids fall into the top 15% at your particular school, that's your own over-prepping fault.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 10:13     Subject: Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:They don't. They're letting some kids in the ghetto schools into the program with an 85%. That's average.

"Ghetto schools." Cute.

Trolls gotta make a living, too, I guess.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 10:11     Subject: Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:Actually they do but with all the inflated scores of the less gifted preppers they get drowned out. There just aren't enough seats.

They don't. They're letting some kids in the ghetto schools into the program with an 85%. That's average.

"Ghetto schools." Cute.

Trolls gotta make a living, too, I guess.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 08:18     Subject: Re:Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:
No one knows anything. I would love for the person who keeps insulting people to provide a link on the MCPS website that "clearly" explains what they are doing this year. MCPS is just an embarrassing organization.


Not that PP, but the MCPS website does clearly state that information is coming, possibly as soon as this week. Not having released it YET is not actually the same as never releasing it.


In the past even it's always been on their website. They have never provided an exact formula but they always listed all the factors. The relative importance of them you can kind of guess at based on what people have written here over the years, but sure it's a guess that CogAT was weighted the most.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 07:37     Subject: Re:Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
No one knows anything. I would love for the person who keeps insulting people to provide a link on the MCPS website that "clearly" explains what they are doing this year. MCPS is just an embarrassing organization.


Not that PP, but the MCPS website does clearly state that information is coming, possibly as soon as this week. Not having released it YET is not actually the same as never releasing it.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 06:45     Subject: Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:What is distressing is that it's politically correct on this board and in MCPS in general to say racist things about Asian Americans cheating and taking advantage of the system but not about other minority groups. It's really painful to see how our neighbors think.

Yeah, right. Look at all those Blacks and Hispanics enrolled into A+ CogAt prep Saturday school to take advantage of the system.
STFU.


So much anger and hate! Please chill.

The levels of comfort people have expressing anti-Asian racism is really disturbing.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2021 06:40     Subject: Re:Did MCPS do a sneaky thing for the magnet lotteries?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Transparency is not MCPS’s skill set. They will do whatever they can to reach their predetermined goal. MCPS doesn’t care how they impact individual students with their duplicitous agendas.


It's funny I found the information that was on their website in the past thorough and helpful. It seems like a lot of people just jump to these conclusions without ever trying to find answers for themselves.


Speaking of which (NP), it looks like CogAT for Grade 5 select students is November 8-19, 2021.
https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=001338515728546311657:vstdz3h-7gq&q=https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/calendar/0455.21_2021_22_Calendar_Web.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjDhKGRi6LzAhWlElkFHf6dAJ4QFnoECAIQAg&usg=AOvVaw2n6YWnLouhn6gP-vZapG-5


Wow, thank you for sharing. Very helpful document.


I get why they test 3rd, 5th and 8th but what's with testing 7th graders?


I'm assuming it has something to do with this: "All Grade 2 students are screened for gifted and talented identification during the second semester of the school year. Students in grades 3, 5 and 7 who are new to Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS) or who have been recommended for re-screening are also screened each school year."

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/enriched/about/faq.aspx


So are they testing to have Cogat as a criterion for magnet selection or just GT identification for kids new to the system?

No one knows anything. I would love for the person who keeps insulting people to provide a link on the MCPS website that "clearly" explains what they are doing this year. MCPS is just an embarrassing organization.