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Anonymous wrote:Turtle Park (DPR) has a nice field. UDC has a nice soccer field. Both are closer to Maret than Jelleff.

Maret already uses all of UDC facilities too. That's why the Murch (and now Eaton) kids couldn't play there when they were in swing space.

Wow, really?! They seem to be spending a lot of money on leasing public lands...don't they have enough dough to buy themselves a big ole plot of land for sports? Maybe they need to increase tuition some more.

They already charge 45k/year and are one of the most expensive private schools in the area. They must have some really gullible parents who aren’t asking tough enough questions about where their tuition dollars are going, given that no other area private is making such use of public facilities.

The Maret community views this as a prudent deal for the school and a fair one overall, in light of Maret’s financial commitment to DC/Jelleff and limited use preference. Lots of other teams and youth use Jelleff throughout the week, including weekends. The Maret agreement has minimal impact. Critics are making more of a principled point than a practical one.

Of course Maret parents view it this way. They are getting what they want for their kids and that is all that matters to them. The kids at the B&GCGW are simply not as important or deserving. You should go tell those kids that you consider the impact on their ability to get outside and play after school on the field right under their noses to be minimal. But neither you nor any Maret parent or Admin would have the nerve. Those kids are actually more deserving and you should know that.

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Anonymous wrote:You Maret people are all over the place. “Marion Barry was racist!” “DC teachers have a union and drive cars!” “Duke Ellington non-DC students too!”

None of that makes your hoarding of public assets less true or less wrong.

The Maret extension on Jelleff can be fairly criticized and debated. But it’s absurd to call Maret parents racists and villains when DC was electing an infamous racist again and again to public office and the public school staff and community are not so selfless and virtuous.

Just because some people were racist doesn’t mean others aren’t too.

Nonetheless, I don’t think Maret is racist. But they are extraordinarily elitist and entitled and have zero self-awareness of it.

Yes unlike the people who live in Georgetown and Palisades.

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Anonymous wrote:You Maret people are all over the place. “Marion Barry was racist!” “DC teachers have a union and drive cars!” “Duke Ellington non-DC students too!”

None of that makes your hoarding of public assets less true or less wrong.

The Maret extension on Jelleff can be fairly criticized and debated. But it’s absurd to call Maret parents racists and villains when DC was electing an infamous racist again and again to public office and the public school staff and community are not so selfless and virtuous.

Just because some people were racist doesn’t mean others aren’t too.

Nonetheless, I don’t think Maret is racist. But they are extraordinarily elitist and entitled and have zero self-awareness of it.

I seriously don't get the attack on the teachers at Hardy. They literally have no voice or involvement in this issue. There is a parking lot - a small parking lot - at Hardy. There is a parking lot at Maret. It is not like the teachers were asked 'please give up your parking for the kids to have a field' - that was never put forward as an option, and they do not have the power or authority to make that an option. It is a DC facilities issue and question.
And, even so, why would you zero in on picking on them having parking compared to teachers at all other schools - public and private. Seriously, ask the Maret teachers to give up their parking...
What is behind the charge that Hardy teachers are militant other than some of them stood by a principal who was fired by Michelle Rhee more than a decade ago? There is nothing behind calling them militant at this point other than racism. Have you met these teachers? They are good and committed public servants who are in a relatively low-paying profession. What is the point of picking on them or even pulling that as an issue into this debate.

On another point, the deal with Maret was NOT made public to give the surrounding community the opportunity to try to raise money to support the rec center and field. That's the point. No one else was given the option or opportunity.

Maret does dominate key afterschool periods of use of the field - it is not 'fairly' or even significantly distributed with other (ie. fair use competition like for other facility use) - and the children at Jelleff's afterschool program are denied the ability to use a field they can look outside and see other kids playing on -- and they have no other options. Maret kids are already being shuffled over to this field from their school location to use a remote field.

Teamsters are also called militant. What does this have to do with race?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You Maret people are all over the place. “Marion Barry was racist!” “DC teachers have a union and drive cars!” “Duke Ellington non-DC students too!”

None of that makes your hoarding of public assets less true or less wrong.

The Maret extension on Jelleff can be fairly criticized and debated. But it’s absurd to call Maret parents racists and villains when DC was electing an infamous racist again and again to public office and the public school staff and community are not so selfless and virtuous.

Just because some people were racist doesn’t mean others aren’t too.

Nonetheless, I don’t think Maret is racist. But they are extraordinarily elitist and entitled and have zero self-awareness of it.

I seriously don't get the attack on the teachers at Hardy. They literally have no voice or involvement in this issue. There is a parking lot - a small parking lot - at Hardy. There is a parking lot at Maret. It is not like the teachers were asked 'please give up your parking for the kids to have a field' - that was never put forward as an option, and they do not have the power or authority to make that an option. It is a DC facilities issue and question.
And, even so, why would you zero in on picking on them having parking compared to teachers at all other schools - public and private. Seriously, ask the Maret teachers to give up their parking...
What is behind the charge that Hardy teachers are militant other than some of them stood by a principal who was fired by Michelle Rhee more than a decade ago? There is nothing behind calling them militant at this point other than racism. Have you met these teachers? They are good and committed public servants who are in a relatively low-paying profession. What is the point of picking on them or even pulling that as an issue into this debate.

On another point, the deal with Maret was NOT made public to give the surrounding community the opportunity to try to raise money to support the rec center and field. That's the point. No one else was given the option or opportunity.

Maret does dominate key afterschool periods of use of the field - it is not 'fairly' or even significantly distributed with other (ie. fair use competition like for other facility use) - and the children at Jelleff's afterschool program are denied the ability to use a field they can look outside and see other kids playing on -- and they have no other options. Maret kids are already being shuffled over to this field from their school location to use a remote field.

Anonymous wrote:Then the other (more of the latter) parents should have rolled up their sleeves to fundraise to Jelleff.

Just like Trump, saying lies and misdirecting again and again doesn't change the facts. Shouting it louder and pounding your fists does not change facts either.

This was a backroom sweetheart deal where Maret underpaid for use of DC resources that should be prioritized for DC public school kids (and the aftercare kids). DCPS parents shoudl not have to fundraise to use DC resources that the city can afford to provide. DC government shouldn't provide a below market access to DC resources to tha private school. It particularly should not do so to the detriment of DCPS students.

Then the other (more of the latter) parents should have rolled up their sleeves to fundraise to Jelleff.

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Anonymous wrote:Turtle Park (DPR) has a nice field. UDC has a nice soccer field. Both are closer to Maret than Jelleff.

Maret already uses all of UDC facilities too. That's why the Murch (and now Eaton) kids couldn't play there when they were in swing space.

Wow, really?! They seem to be spending a lot of money on leasing public lands...don't they have enough dough to buy themselves a big ole plot of land for sports? Maybe they need to increase tuition some more.

They already charge 45k/year and are one of the most expensive private schools in the area. They must have some really gullible parents who aren’t asking tough enough questions about where their tuition dollars are going, given that no other area private is making such use of public facilities.

The Maret community views this as a prudent deal for the school and a fair one overall, in light of Maret’s financial commitment to DC/Jelleff and limited use preference. Lots of other teams and youth use Jelleff throughout the week, including weekends. The Maret agreement has minimal impact. Critics are making more of a principled point than a practical one.

The financial commitment is definitely limited; the use preference is substantial. So what if Stoddert soccer uses the field after hours? There are other fields available then. The high-demand time for Jelleff is weekday afternoons.

The only way Maret people can think it makes sense for them to have exclusive use on weekday afternoons is for them to think their kids and their families’ convenience is more important than other kids and families (and despite there being many more of the latter!).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Turtle Park (DPR) has a nice field. UDC has a nice soccer field. Both are closer to Maret than Jelleff.

Maret already uses all of UDC facilities too. That's why the Murch (and now Eaton) kids couldn't play there when they were in swing space.

Wow, really?! They seem to be spending a lot of money on leasing public lands...don't they have enough dough to buy themselves a big ole plot of land for sports? Maybe they need to increase tuition some more.

They already charge 45k/year and are one of the most expensive private schools in the area. They must have some really gullible parents who aren’t asking tough enough questions about where their tuition dollars are going, given that no other area private is making such use of public facilities.

The Maret community views this as a prudent deal for the school and a fair one overall, in light of Maret’s financial commitment to DC/Jelleff and limited use preference. Lots of other teams and youth use Jelleff throughout the week, including weekends. The Maret agreement has minimal impact. Critics are making more of a principled point than a practical one.

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Anonymous wrote:You Maret people are all over the place. “Marion Barry was racist!” “DC teachers have a union and drive cars!” “Duke Ellington non-DC students too!”

None of that makes your hoarding of public assets less true or less wrong.

The Maret extension on Jelleff can be fairly criticized and debated. But it’s absurd to call Maret parents racists and villains when DC was electing an infamous racist again and again to public office and the public school staff and community are not so selfless and virtuous.

Just because some people were racist doesn’t mean others aren’t too.

Nonetheless, I don’t think Maret is racist. But they are extraordinarily elitist and entitled and have zero self-awareness of it.

+1. The Maret boosters don’t have a legitimate way to defend their behavior so they’re just trying to throw blame at others for everything that has ever gone badly in DC (ex: we Maret parents are misusing DC taxpayer funded resources, but others are misusing far more.) it’s sad. It’s also unfortunate that Jeff has banned posts about the Maret use of fields in the private school board because Maret parents probably wouldn’t be as willing to make such nonsensical uninformed posts on a Board with their peers.

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Anonymous wrote:Turtle Park (DPR) has a nice field. UDC has a nice soccer field. Both are closer to Maret than Jelleff.

Maret already uses all of UDC facilities too. That's why the Murch (and now Eaton) kids couldn't play there when they were in swing space.

Wow, really?! They seem to be spending a lot of money on leasing public lands...don't they have enough dough to buy themselves a big ole plot of land for sports? Maybe they need to increase tuition some more.

They already charge 45k/year and are one of the most expensive private schools in the area. They must have some really gullible parents who aren’t asking tough enough questions about where their tuition dollars are going, given that no other area private is making such use of public facilities.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You Maret people are all over the place. “Marion Barry was racist!” “DC teachers have a union and drive cars!” “Duke Ellington non-DC students too!”

None of that makes your hoarding of public assets less true or less wrong.

The Maret extension on Jelleff can be fairly criticized and debated. But it’s absurd to call Maret parents racists and villains when DC was electing an infamous racist again and again to public office and the public school staff and community are not so selfless and virtuous.

Just because some people were racist doesn’t mean others aren’t too.

Nonetheless, I don’t think Maret is racist. But they are extraordinarily elitist and entitled and have zero self-awareness of it.

Anonymous wrote:You Maret people are all over the place. “Marion Barry was racist!” “DC teachers have a union and drive cars!” “Duke Ellington non-DC students too!”

None of that makes your hoarding of public assets less true or less wrong.

The Maret extension on Jelleff can be fairly criticized and debated. But it’s absurd to call Maret parents racists and villains when DC was electing an infamous racist again and again to public office and the public school staff and community are not so selfless and virtuous.

You Maret people are all over the place. “Marion Barry was racist!” “DC teachers have a union and drive cars!” “Duke Ellington non-DC students too!”

None of that makes your hoarding of public assets less true or less wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:If Hardy eliminated the staff parking lot and moved the court to the SE corner of the school yard, Hardy could install a playing field that is basically the size of Jelleff’s. All it would take is either to persuade the greedy WTU members to give relinquish their free on-site parking or get Bowser to build some parking under the field, as DC did for Duke Ellington, Janney, Murch to name a few.

This is BS. It has been explained in this thread again and again.

Now if Maret eliminated staff parking, they could build a new stadium for the Redskins...

The selfish, militant Washington Teachers Union stalwarts at Hardy don’t give a flying fig about student needs, like a real field to play on. They just want their free stuff.

“even though half of their students aren’t even from DC.”

You must be talking about taxpayer-funded Duke Ellington.