Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 15:57     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't one of the club expand into Loudoun County? Those families are all sports crazy and have just enough cash to pay for all this sh*t.


Madlax and VLC already draw from Loudoun.


Yes but they're a haul through Ffx traffic. Something closer would get lots of takers especially in the younger age groups.


Don't feed the Evergreen troll, stop the nonsense. People aren't gonna go play there just because you are too lazy to drive or your son can't make one of the big three programs.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 14:34     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't one of the club expand into Loudoun County? Those families are all sports crazy and have just enough cash to pay for all this sh*t.


Madlax and VLC already draw from Loudoun.


Yes but they're a haul through Ffx traffic. Something closer would get lots of takers especially in the younger age groups.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 14:05     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't one of the club expand into Loudoun County? Those families are all sports crazy and have just enough cash to pay for all this sh*t.


Madlax and VLC already draw from Loudoun.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 14:05     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:The Landon kid went from Madlax to VLC, and continued to play VLC during high school.

Kylor Bellistri's dad is now the Bullis head coach, so maybe he had an advantage that other kids might not have. He was also a stud football player, so he might not have had the full-time interest in lacrosse at that time.

That being said, there has to be a few kids that only play high school that go on to play high level D1 or D3, whether someone can quote the names or not. HOWEVER, it is a much harder road, irrespective of which high school you attend. Not impossible, just harder. Even for the kids at Gonzaga or Prep.

On the girls side, it's even less likely that a non-club player will make it to a high level D1 or D3, because colleges rely even more heavily on the clubs for recruiting on the girls side. The depth of talent on most girls high school teams (and most games) is too thin for recruiters to get an accurate picture on talented kids. Club games are generally more competitive for girls, and can give a college coach more info about that player's in-game talents.

And before certain people freak out, these are just my general thoughts; not unimpeachable truths. Just my impression after 7 years of boys club ball, 6 years of girls club ball and both sides of the high school game. I'm sure there are some different opinions.


I will add that all of the recruiting contacts/calls my son received through his club coach were because the college recruiter had come to the club game and watched my son play.

The majority of the recruiting contacts/calls my son received through his high school coach (IAC school) were because the college recruiter called the coach to ask him about available players and recommendations. And, because the recruiter had not watched my son yet, it was important which club my son played for so the recruiter could eventually watch him. With college and high school teams playing at the same time, it's much harder for the recruiting to be done exclusively through the high school.

Again, not impossible at all, just harder without the club exposure. With high schools playing more summer events and the change in recruiting rules, that may eventually change but it hasn't yet.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 13:39     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread
Why doesn't one of the club expand into Loudoun County? Those families are all sports crazy and have just enough cash to pay for all this sh*t.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 12:46     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is the NCS lacrosse program?


Well they were in the A divison (really the B division as the AA is the A) of the ISL. They won it last year and now are moving up to AA division for 2018. Thats sounds good but its really not. Winning the A Div means they beat schools like Maret, Sidwell, GDS, . Not impressive at all. NCS has one great (Capital Blue '19, committed to Yale) and one good freshman (Capital Blue '21) and then a bunch of very mediocre players. They play a super light schedule, very very few of the girls are truly invested in the sport, and the school is not invested at all. To be completely honest its a really weak program.


That's surprising, as there is an obviously an overlap between NCS and STA families. The STA lacrosse dads and moms I know are fanatics about the sport and building up the STA program. STA has always emphasized lacrosse, although with varying degrees of success. Still, it is obviously a focus of the school and its boosters. I wonder why that passion does not travel across the Close.


Because NCS is really nothing like STA. They are "related" schools but the cultures are very different. And lots of STA families send their girls to other schools such as Sidwell, Potomac, Visi and Holton (I know multiple families at STA whose DDs attend those 4 in particular). I dont know as many NCS families whose sons don't go to STA (I do know of one whose son is at Landon and another at Gonazaga) but STA tends to be more highly regarded by NCS families than the other way around - weird yes but thats my experience.

Plus, kids in families don't always play the same sports. Also, Girls and Boys lacrosse are really different games and girls lacrosse has been around the DC are afor a much shorter time so doesn't have the alumni support that lacrosse does at STA.

Lacrosse is much better at Holton and Potomac than it is at NCS, even better at Visi, and miles better at SSSAS. Noone goes to NCS for lacrosse. Girls go to NCS for the academics and, if they are really committed to lax they don't go there (most commonly) or they suck up the crappy lax team (rare).
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 12:04     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is the NCS lacrosse program?


Well they were in the A divison (really the B division as the AA is the A) of the ISL. They won it last year and now are moving up to AA division for 2018. Thats sounds good but its really not. Winning the A Div means they beat schools like Maret, Sidwell, GDS, . Not impressive at all. NCS has one great (Capital Blue '19, committed to Yale) and one good freshman (Capital Blue '21) and then a bunch of very mediocre players. They play a super light schedule, very very few of the girls are truly invested in the sport, and the school is not invested at all. To be completely honest its a really weak program.


That's surprising, as there is an obviously an overlap between NCS and STA families. The STA lacrosse dads and moms I know are fanatics about the sport and building up the STA program. STA has always emphasized lacrosse, although with varying degrees of success. Still, it is obviously a focus of the school and its boosters. I wonder why that passion does not travel across the Close.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 11:55     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:How is the NCS lacrosse program?


Well they were in the A divison (really the B division as the AA is the A) of the ISL. They won it last year and now are moving up to AA division for 2018. Thats sounds good but its really not. Winning the A Div means they beat schools like Maret, Sidwell, GDS, . Not impressive at all. NCS has one great (Capital Blue '19, committed to Yale) and one good freshman (Capital Blue '21) and then a bunch of very mediocre players. They play a super light schedule, very very few of the girls are truly invested in the sport, and the school is not invested at all. To be completely honest its a really weak program.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 11:47     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread
How is the NCS lacrosse program?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 10:47     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread
DCE has no history of placing kids into the college ranks. Given its a new program but time will tell if the program is really worth it.

You can bash Mad Lax, VLC or Blackwolf all you want, but the number of college commits tell the real story.

McGill and Bobby Horsey did a pretty weak job with college placement at Performance Lacrosse for a number of years - what makes you think it will be any different with DCE?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 09:27     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:Goldberg played for Performance. Check out his highlight reel. Performance "claimed" him as a college recruit prior to the association with DCE.


He played a couple of games for them as a senior. He had already committed to Richmond before then. Performance "claims" him as a commit which is a joke, as is any club that claims someone who committed when the kid wasn't playing for the club.

There are many examples of IAC, WCAC and MAC kids who never played club and ended up D3 schools and sometimes D1. I agree with the poster who says that you should play club if you want to maximize your chances of playing in college, but it's not always a prerequisite.

And I just looked at his video - no mention of Performance. Shows you what a joke DCE is.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 08:56     Subject: Re:Private School Lacrosse Thread
Goldberg played for Performance. Check out his highlight reel. Performance "claimed" him as a college recruit prior to the association with DCE.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 08:27     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some kids bolted to their high schools and play in the fall ball league with their high schools. DCE is in the same fall ball league as most top high school lacrosse programs.


"Bolting" from a club to a non-club suggests to me that these kids aren't looking to get recruited. Great for them if that's the case. But if recruitment is the name of the game (for the parents at least), you can't go clubless, even if your high school is Gonzaga or Landon or Bullis.


You actually can. Most colleges have recruitment days where kids come in and play for the coaches. Along with a recommendation from your HS coach, it is entirely doable especially with not being able to commit till Junior year.



Name one kid who got recruited from a DC area private school into a top D1 or D3 program without the backing of a club. Just one. Case closed.


Dummy.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2017 07:59     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread
+1
re the boys situation:
Playing club to keep up your skills is one thing. Paying exorbitant additional fees to the douchebag coaches because theyve convinced you they are your ticket to college is another. they are businessmen who, unlike your HS coaches, only care about your sons as it furthers their own resumes.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2017 23:26     Subject: Private School Lacrosse Thread
Anonymous wrote:


Name one kid who got recruited from a DC area private school into a top D1 or D3 program without the backing of a club. Just one. Case closed.


Case open, idiot


Nick Fields. Johns Hopkina
Kylie Bellistri. Brown
Mitch Goldberg. Richmond
Tons of Prep kids who never played club

Don't say things that you have no idea what you're talking about.