Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:SoccerWatcher wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?
No but it certainly changes the urgency and the approach to solve the problem. From all accounts the MYS boys leadership were not included in negotiations. The girls leader NM led this move and it had nothing to do with their program. Begs the question if the threat was real to begin with if they lied about the girls being in danger. What other options could they have explored. Let Brave die and the Girls take the players anyways and there is no disruption of staff. Lose boys ecnl and the Boys play USYS NL since that’s their level anyways and keep the coaching staff and parents happy. Or maybe attempt a bid for Boys MLS next with BRYC and Vienna? If the league kicks boys and brave out they can’t stop a move to another league. Would be a strong play to really improve all clubs. The league wouldn’t allow that type of move hence the threat not really being a threat. This was a wet dream of NM and he played his card well. Give up boys control to Brave and he get a new source of talent to recruit from (since when has NM developed a young player), and expand his footprint of totalfutbol camps. Genius move.
Doesn't seem smart to me? NM had multiple ECNL teams as did the other McLean coaches. Now they each have only 1 and MV has 2. Seems like VYS out maneuvered the McLean crew. If they had just let BRAVE die those girls would have come to Union anyways. Now they just gave up control. In 5 years this will just be Vienna ECNL. CW is going to retire. NM and crew will start up a new club. You saw it here first.
PP —- the threat was to girls. Your boys can’t suck or you are all out. I have no doubt McLean tried much of what you suggest. I bet they even called VDA and Arlington to see about a merger. At the end of all that they were left with Brave or join GA. There is no other way to read this. They were screwed.
There was no threat to the girls. They are consistently one of the best Virginia ECNL clubs on the girls' side. The only question is why Arlington isn't in trouble given the very poor performance in all girls' age groups besides the youngest.
Just like Five Guys, ECNL set up too many shops in Northern VA.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is what really happened:
1- JW accepts an offer from Arlington mid-January
2 - McLean BOD panics and tries desperately to poach top coaches from neighboring clubs. It fails.
3 - Braves and McLean gets a warning from ECNL.
4 - Given their inability to recruit a solid coaching slate for the boy side, McLean BOD figures it is their way out. They negotiate to keep control of the girl side while they surrender the boy side.
JW, new TD at Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Except for maybe 08 which is strong at Union most Arlington Boy teams are much stronger with nice fat rosters. Can imagine them taking JW but not that being a lifeline for many Union players. My guess tryouts full but offers few.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:SoccerWatcher wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?
No but it certainly changes the urgency and the approach to solve the problem. From all accounts the MYS boys leadership were not included in negotiations. The girls leader NM led this move and it had nothing to do with their program. Begs the question if the threat was real to begin with if they lied about the girls being in danger. What other options could they have explored. Let Brave die and the Girls take the players anyways and there is no disruption of staff. Lose boys ecnl and the Boys play USYS NL since that’s their level anyways and keep the coaching staff and parents happy. Or maybe attempt a bid for Boys MLS next with BRYC and Vienna? If the league kicks boys and brave out they can’t stop a move to another league. Would be a strong play to really improve all clubs. The league wouldn’t allow that type of move hence the threat not really being a threat. This was a wet dream of NM and he played his card well. Give up boys control to Brave and he get a new source of talent to recruit from (since when has NM developed a young player), and expand his footprint of totalfutbol camps. Genius move.
Doesn't seem smart to me? NM had multiple ECNL teams as did the other McLean coaches. Now they each have only 1 and MV has 2. Seems like VYS out maneuvered the McLean crew. If they had just let BRAVE die those girls would have come to Union anyways. Now they just gave up control. In 5 years this will just be Vienna ECNL. CW is going to retire. NM and crew will start up a new club. You saw it here first.
PP —- the threat was to girls. Your boys can’t suck or you are all out. I have no doubt McLean tried much of what you suggest. I bet they even called VDA and Arlington to see about a merger. At the end of all that they were left with Brave or join GA. There is no other way to read this. They were screwed.
There was no threat to the girls. They are consistently one of the best Virginia ECNL clubs on the girls' side. The only question is why Arlington isn't in trouble given the very poor performance in all girls' age groups besides the youngest.
Anonymous wrote:This is what really happened:
1- JW accepts an offer from Arlington mid-January
2 - McLean BOD panics and tries desperately to poach top coaches from neighboring clubs. It fails.
3 - Braves and McLean gets a warning from ECNL.
4 - Given their inability to recruit a solid coaching slate for the boy side, McLean BOD figures it is their way out. They negotiate to keep control of the girl side while they surrender the boy side.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:SoccerWatcher wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?
No but it certainly changes the urgency and the approach to solve the problem. From all accounts the MYS boys leadership were not included in negotiations. The girls leader NM led this move and it had nothing to do with their program. Begs the question if the threat was real to begin with if they lied about the girls being in danger. What other options could they have explored. Let Brave die and the Girls take the players anyways and there is no disruption of staff. Lose boys ecnl and the Boys play USYS NL since that’s their level anyways and keep the coaching staff and parents happy. Or maybe attempt a bid for Boys MLS next with BRYC and Vienna? If the league kicks boys and brave out they can’t stop a move to another league. Would be a strong play to really improve all clubs. The league wouldn’t allow that type of move hence the threat not really being a threat. This was a wet dream of NM and he played his card well. Give up boys control to Brave and he get a new source of talent to recruit from (since when has NM developed a young player), and expand his footprint of totalfutbol camps. Genius move.
Doesn't seem smart to me? NM had multiple ECNL teams as did the other McLean coaches. Now they each have only 1 and MV has 2. Seems like VYS out maneuvered the McLean crew. If they had just let BRAVE die those girls would have come to Union anyways. Now they just gave up control. In 5 years this will just be Vienna ECNL. CW is going to retire. NM and crew will start up a new club. You saw it here first.
PP —- the threat was to girls. Your boys can’t suck or you are all out. I have no doubt McLean tried much of what you suggest. I bet they even called VDA and Arlington to see about a merger. At the end of all that they were left with Brave or join GA. There is no other way to read this. They were screwed.
There was no threat to the girls. They are consistently one of the best Virginia ECNL clubs on the girls' side. The only question is why Arlington isn't in trouble given the very poor performance in all girls' age groups besides the youngest.
Anonymous wrote:SoccerWatcher wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?
No but it certainly changes the urgency and the approach to solve the problem. From all accounts the MYS boys leadership were not included in negotiations. The girls leader NM led this move and it had nothing to do with their program. Begs the question if the threat was real to begin with if they lied about the girls being in danger. What other options could they have explored. Let Brave die and the Girls take the players anyways and there is no disruption of staff. Lose boys ecnl and the Boys play USYS NL since that’s their level anyways and keep the coaching staff and parents happy. Or maybe attempt a bid for Boys MLS next with BRYC and Vienna? If the league kicks boys and brave out they can’t stop a move to another league. Would be a strong play to really improve all clubs. The league wouldn’t allow that type of move hence the threat not really being a threat. This was a wet dream of NM and he played his card well. Give up boys control to Brave and he get a new source of talent to recruit from (since when has NM developed a young player), and expand his footprint of totalfutbol camps. Genius move.
Doesn't seem smart to me? NM had multiple ECNL teams as did the other McLean coaches. Now they each have only 1 and MV has 2. Seems like VYS out maneuvered the McLean crew. If they had just let BRAVE die those girls would have come to Union anyways. Now they just gave up control. In 5 years this will just be Vienna ECNL. CW is going to retire. NM and crew will start up a new club. You saw it here first.
PP —- the threat was to girls. Your boys can’t suck or you are all out. I have no doubt McLean tried much of what you suggest. I bet they even called VDA and Arlington to see about a merger. At the end of all that they were left with Brave or join GA. There is no other way to read this. They were screwed.
Anonymous wrote:SoccerWatcher wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?
No but it certainly changes the urgency and the approach to solve the problem. From all accounts the MYS boys leadership were not included in negotiations. The girls leader NM led this move and it had nothing to do with their program. Begs the question if the threat was real to begin with if they lied about the girls being in danger. What other options could they have explored. Let Brave die and the Girls take the players anyways and there is no disruption of staff. Lose boys ecnl and the Boys play USYS NL since that’s their level anyways and keep the coaching staff and parents happy. Or maybe attempt a bid for Boys MLS next with BRYC and Vienna? If the league kicks boys and brave out they can’t stop a move to another league. Would be a strong play to really improve all clubs. The league wouldn’t allow that type of move hence the threat not really being a threat. This was a wet dream of NM and he played his card well. Give up boys control to Brave and he get a new source of talent to recruit from (since when has NM developed a young player), and expand his footprint of totalfutbol camps. Genius move.
Doesn't seem smart to me? NM had multiple ECNL teams as did the other McLean coaches. Now they each have only 1 and MV has 2. Seems like VYS out maneuvered the McLean crew. If they had just let BRAVE die those girls would have come to Union anyways. Now they just gave up control. In 5 years this will just be Vienna ECNL. CW is going to retire. NM and crew will start up a new club. You saw it here first.
PP —- the threat was to girls. Your boys can’t suck or you are all out. I have no doubt McLean tried much of what you suggest. I bet they even called VDA and Arlington to see about a merger. At the end of all that they were left with Brave or join GA. There is no other way to read this. They were screwed.
SoccerWatcher wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?
No but it certainly changes the urgency and the approach to solve the problem. From all accounts the MYS boys leadership were not included in negotiations. The girls leader NM led this move and it had nothing to do with their program. Begs the question if the threat was real to begin with if they lied about the girls being in danger. What other options could they have explored. Let Brave die and the Girls take the players anyways and there is no disruption of staff. Lose boys ecnl and the Boys play USYS NL since that’s their level anyways and keep the coaching staff and parents happy. Or maybe attempt a bid for Boys MLS next with BRYC and Vienna? If the league kicks boys and brave out they can’t stop a move to another league. Would be a strong play to really improve all clubs. The league wouldn’t allow that type of move hence the threat not really being a threat. This was a wet dream of NM and he played his card well. Give up boys control to Brave and he get a new source of talent to recruit from (since when has NM developed a young player), and expand his footprint of totalfutbol camps. Genius move.
Doesn't seem smart to me? NM had multiple ECNL teams as did the other McLean coaches. Now they each have only 1 and MV has 2. Seems like VYS out maneuvered the McLean crew. If they had just let BRAVE die those girls would have come to Union anyways. Now they just gave up control. In 5 years this will just be Vienna ECNL. CW is going to retire. NM and crew will start up a new club. You saw it here first.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.
All the McLean 2012 girls showed up for SYC tryouts, and none made the team? oooff that was a broken union.
Should be plenty of McLean girls looking to make this Union then, and that explains the neuroticism. 2 McLean girls offered when whole team attended ID so confirming yes they are looking for a home wit FVU
As mentioned earlier in this thread, McLean 2012 is one of the poorer performing clubs. It would make sense that most of those players would not make SYC. If I had to guess, most will not make FVU either.
Someone in touch with reality, thank you! McLean is failing, let's hope being the county team will help you now. Arlington girls arent leaving for Union, Springfield girls arent leaving for Union, Loudoun girls have multiple options they aren't leaving for Union, VDA is looking the strongest and they aren't leaving for Union way down in PW. So where is your talent coming from? Developing it right, get going NM + ML, this is what your so famous for right?
Development is not NM’s thing.
Anonymous wrote:It will be 12 years before girls soccer on the Virginia side of the DMV recovers from this Real Housewives episode
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why you whining about McLean coming to Springfield then? Isn't that helping your case, or did you not get an offer?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.
All the McLean 2012 girls showed up for SYC tryouts, and none made the team? oooff that was a broken union.
Should be plenty of McLean girls looking to make this Union then, and that explains the neuroticism. 2 McLean girls offered when whole team attended ID so confirming yes they are looking for a home wit FVU
Some Mclean 12s already accepted SYC offers.
People will really commute from McLean to Springfield for 12yo soccer?
Wow. Apparently I don't love my kids enough.
Another blindly privileged McLean parent speaking out of their arse. Do you realize how lucky you are to have all these options to choose from within a 15-20 mile radius and you wouldn't choose a team because of what traffic?
Lol, underprivileged Springfield parent, actually. And for a 12yo, that would be a hell no!
Lol, no. But I hope you feel better in spite of being wrong a couple times over.
Bless your heart.
Anonymous wrote:Why you whining about McLean coming to Springfield then? Isn't that helping your case, or did you not get an offer?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.
All the McLean 2012 girls showed up for SYC tryouts, and none made the team? oooff that was a broken union.
Should be plenty of McLean girls looking to make this Union then, and that explains the neuroticism. 2 McLean girls offered when whole team attended ID so confirming yes they are looking for a home wit FVU
Some Mclean 12s already accepted SYC offers.
People will really commute from McLean to Springfield for 12yo soccer?
Wow. Apparently I don't love my kids enough.
Another blindly privileged McLean parent speaking out of their arse. Do you realize how lucky you are to have all these options to choose from within a 15-20 mile radius and you wouldn't choose a team because of what traffic?
Lol, underprivileged Springfield parent, actually. And for a 12yo, that would be a hell no!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DD just got an offer via email. Has anyone else heard anything?
No but it certainly changes the urgency and the approach to solve the problem. From all accounts the MYS boys leadership were not included in negotiations. The girls leader NM led this move and it had nothing to do with their program. Begs the question if the threat was real to begin with if they lied about the girls being in danger. What other options could they have explored. Let Brave die and the Girls take the players anyways and there is no disruption of staff. Lose boys ecnl and the Boys play USYS NL since that’s their level anyways and keep the coaching staff and parents happy. Or maybe attempt a bid for Boys MLS next with BRYC and Vienna? If the league kicks boys and brave out they can’t stop a move to another league. Would be a strong play to really improve all clubs. The league wouldn’t allow that type of move hence the threat not really being a threat. This was a wet dream of NM and he played his card well. Give up boys control to Brave and he get a new source of talent to recruit from (since when has NM developed a young player), and expand his footprint of totalfutbol camps. Genius move.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There has one been one ID session - 2012G. So if there are any offers out, it has to be for that team.
All the McLean 2012 girls showed up for SYC tryouts, and none made the team? oooff that was a broken union.
Should be plenty of McLean girls looking to make this Union then, and that explains the neuroticism. 2 McLean girls offered when whole team attended ID so confirming yes they are looking for a home wit FVU
As mentioned earlier in this thread, McLean 2012 is one of the poorer performing clubs. It would make sense that most of those players would not make SYC. If I had to guess, most will not make FVU either.
Someone in touch with reality, thank you! McLean is failing, let's hope being the county team will help you now. Arlington girls arent leaving for Union, Springfield girls arent leaving for Union, Loudoun girls have multiple options they aren't leaving for Union, VDA is looking the strongest and they aren't leaving for Union way down in PW. So where is your talent coming from? Developing it right, get going NM + ML, this is what your so famous for right?