Anonymous
05/23/2023 13:25
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:Both Madison and Oakton move onto States though.. correct?
Nice! Both earned it.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 13:15
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:Both Madison and Oakton move onto States though.. correct?
Yup!
Anonymous
05/23/2023 13:15
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:Both Madison and Oakton move onto States though.. correct?
Correct
Anonymous
05/23/2023 13:07
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Both Madison and Oakton move onto States though.. correct?
Anonymous
05/23/2023 12:58
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any Madison / Yorktown updates?
11-9 Madison final.
Evidently Yorktown was up most of the game and lost it at the end.
Bad information, 2nd half was total domination from Madison
Agree. Madison didn't just win it at the end. Yorktown came to play and jumped out to a 3-0 lead and it seesawed back and forth from 1 to 2 goal lead for Yorktown for most to the first half. Yorktown 8-6 at half.
Madison dominated a hard fought second half--5 goals to 1--and won by 2. Madison was able to hold the ball for last 6 mins. Warhawk seniors simply would not let the game get away.
Yorktown goalie played a great game, but Madison kept grinding away to get quality shots. Good game.
5 goals to 1 in the 2nd half is not total domination especially considering Yorktown was a .500 team coming into this game. Yorktown still managed to put 9 into the Warhawk net. Not bad for almost all sophomore and junior offense. That would have made a great upset.
5-1 times 2 halves = 10-2. That would be pretty dominant, no?
No because that’s not what happened. Final score was 11-9
Anonymous
05/23/2023 12:41
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
What a great night of lacrosse in Fairfax yesterday. My daughter (who did not play for any of the teams we watched last night) was home from college and I made her come with me to watch this double-header. I miss these games! As much as we try, the parents cannot replicate this in college. Girls going all out in front of their classmates and families, moms and dads apoplectic when their daughter is shoved a little (even if their daughter may, possibly flopped a bit), and the DC Urban Moms lacrosse thread!
If I was doing a halftime show for VHSL girls tournament lacrosse, these would have been my stories.
1) DEFENSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE – all four teams, Centreville, Madison, Oakton, and Yorktown had awesome defenses. All four were very physical and quick to help. Every goal by every team was well earned! My daughter is a defender, and I could see a lot of girls tonight moving on to the next level as defenders. Also helps that all four teams were anchored by solid goaltending – every goalie I saw made at least two incredible saves.
2) D1 Commits are legit! JMU, Pitt, ODU, Cincinnati, Rhode Island (and anyone I missed) are getting some good players. All play hard, attack lose balls, and are smart. The difference in both games was a Senior D1 Commit, JMU for Oakton and Cincy for Madison. Their teams followed their lead. Extra kudos to Madison because #9 literally put the team on her shoulders and got them back into it in the second half. Looked like a bunch of great sophomores according to my program and I’m sure they are going to find great homes as well.
3) Coaches need to watch some college ball. First of all, great high school coaching happened out there. They all must run great programs because all four teams had well-run offenses (Oakton’s offense was so, so, so patient – a masterclass!) and solid D. However, face-guarding took one great player out in one game and another team executed a nearly 7-minute stall. There are adjustments that coaches can make to counter those tactics – if they are practiced. Until we get smart and get a shot clock, there is going to be more stalling.
4) Favorite subplot of the night: Madison #9 vs Yorktown #33. Those two went at it like heavyweight fighters except it wasn’t puncher on puncher but shooter on goalie! As I said earlier, all the goalies played great and made some big-time saves but Yorktown’s was on another level. She made a crazy Dominic Hasek, kick save while in a split against an absolute rocket from #9. I think she had like 15 total saves! But that doesn’t mean #33 had #9’s number, not by a long shot! She had the hardest shot I think I’ve ever seen in a high school game for one of her goals in the first half. Wow! She must have led her team in scoring on a team with great scorers. Great job to both girls!
5) Refs – there is no answer. One thing I’m sure everyone can agree on, the refs screwed your team. I completely understand why all four teams’ fans thought the refs were on the other team’s side. There is no rhyme or reason, let alone consistency. I think the Oakton/Centerville was a little better refereed but even there I wasn’t sure what was going on. They let them play in the first half and someone must have told them they hadn’t reached their monthly speeding ticket quota so they started pulling over everyone in the second half! We need to pay refs more money to try and get better people off the street, get them better training, US Lacrosse needs to provide better guidance on the rules so it is easier for them to understand if it is a foul or it is not, and they should get grades for accountability. Each team had at least one no-call where their girl got mauled and one enormous head-scratcher where the parents around me were trying to decipher what had even happened.
6) Vienna Inn, like posting on DC Urban Moms, the Vienna Inn is still one of my favorite guilty pleasures. Got to be honest, might have ducked out with 5 minutes left to go hit one of my favs! My wife will not go there with me and, after a lacrosse season with no drinking for my daughter, I paid her for joining me on my nostalgic high school lacrosse night with a couple of beers at the old Vienna Inn. I just need someone to answer one question, why is everyone’s parking lot in downtown Vienna look pristine but the Vienna Inn’s looks like it was just mortared?
Thank you for reading. See you in Oakton on Friday!
If I was doing a halftime show for VHSL girls tournament lacrosse, these would have been my stories.
1) DEFENSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE – all four teams, Centreville, Madison, Oakton, and Yorktown had awesome defenses. All four were very physical and quick to help. Every goal by every team was well earned! My daughter is a defender, and I could see a lot of girls tonight moving on to the next level as defenders. Also helps that all four teams were anchored by solid goaltending – every goalie I saw made at least two incredible saves.
2) D1 Commits are legit! JMU, Pitt, ODU, Cincinnati, Rhode Island (and anyone I missed) are getting some good players. All play hard, attack lose balls, and are smart. The difference in both games was a Senior D1 Commit, JMU for Oakton and Cincy for Madison. Their teams followed their lead. Extra kudos to Madison because #9 literally put the team on her shoulders and got them back into it in the second half. Looked like a bunch of great sophomores according to my program and I’m sure they are going to find great homes as well.
3) Coaches need to watch some college ball. First of all, great high school coaching happened out there. They all must run great programs because all four teams had well-run offenses (Oakton’s offense was so, so, so patient – a masterclass!) and solid D. However, face-guarding took one great player out in one game and another team executed a nearly 7-minute stall. There are adjustments that coaches can make to counter those tactics – if they are practiced. Until we get smart and get a shot clock, there is going to be more stalling.
4) Favorite subplot of the night: Madison #9 vs Yorktown #33. Those two went at it like heavyweight fighters except it wasn’t puncher on puncher but shooter on goalie! As I said earlier, all the goalies played great and made some big-time saves but Yorktown’s was on another level. She made a crazy Dominic Hasek, kick save while in a split against an absolute rocket from #9. I think she had like 15 total saves! But that doesn’t mean #33 had #9’s number, not by a long shot! She had the hardest shot I think I’ve ever seen in a high school game for one of her goals in the first half. Wow! She must have led her team in scoring on a team with great scorers. Great job to both girls!
5) Refs – there is no answer. One thing I’m sure everyone can agree on, the refs screwed your team. I completely understand why all four teams’ fans thought the refs were on the other team’s side. There is no rhyme or reason, let alone consistency. I think the Oakton/Centerville was a little better refereed but even there I wasn’t sure what was going on. They let them play in the first half and someone must have told them they hadn’t reached their monthly speeding ticket quota so they started pulling over everyone in the second half! We need to pay refs more money to try and get better people off the street, get them better training, US Lacrosse needs to provide better guidance on the rules so it is easier for them to understand if it is a foul or it is not, and they should get grades for accountability. Each team had at least one no-call where their girl got mauled and one enormous head-scratcher where the parents around me were trying to decipher what had even happened.
6) Vienna Inn, like posting on DC Urban Moms, the Vienna Inn is still one of my favorite guilty pleasures. Got to be honest, might have ducked out with 5 minutes left to go hit one of my favs! My wife will not go there with me and, after a lacrosse season with no drinking for my daughter, I paid her for joining me on my nostalgic high school lacrosse night with a couple of beers at the old Vienna Inn. I just need someone to answer one question, why is everyone’s parking lot in downtown Vienna look pristine but the Vienna Inn’s looks like it was just mortared?
Thank you for reading. See you in Oakton on Friday!
Anonymous
05/23/2023 12:33
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:Props to Oakton for beating Centerville 3 times this year. Usually, it’s a tall order to beat a decent team three times in a row. Blaming the refs for all three is a really bad look. The problems, besides Oakton simply having a more talented roster, is that Centerville relied too heavily on its top two players, and the coach didn’t seem to adjust much from game to game. Oakton also out hustled Centerville, coming up with a vast majority of ground balls and causing Wildcat turnovers.
This has been Centreville's weakness relying on 3 girls to try to win games. The coaches refusal to sub players left them gassed where they couldn't have any fast breaks because the middy's had nothing left in the tank.
Sitting close to their bench last night their coach had nothing positive to say to motive the girls, she just tore them down.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 12:32
Subject: Re:VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Said by every parent who's kid has never won an award... The teams that have more role players are more successful and championships are great, but don’t try and take away from the awards that were earned and voted on by the coaches in the respective district or region. If your mad your kid didn't get an award then your coach probably didn't fight for them or didn't even put them up...
Anonymous
05/23/2023 11:28
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any Madison / Yorktown updates?
11-9 Madison final.
Evidently Yorktown was up most of the game and lost it at the end.
Bad information, 2nd half was total domination from Madison
Agree. Madison didn't just win it at the end. Yorktown came to play and jumped out to a 3-0 lead and it seesawed back and forth from 1 to 2 goal lead for Yorktown for most to the first half. Yorktown 8-6 at half.
Madison dominated a hard fought second half--5 goals to 1--and won by 2. Madison was able to hold the ball for last 6 mins. Warhawk seniors simply would not let the game get away.
Yorktown goalie played a great game, but Madison kept grinding away to get quality shots. Good game.
5 goals to 1 in the 2nd half is not total domination especially considering Yorktown was a .500 team coming into this game. Yorktown still managed to put 9 into the Warhawk net. Not bad for almost all sophomore and junior offense. That would have made a great upset.
5-1 times 2 halves = 10-2. That would be pretty dominant, no?
It was a two goal game, tied with 10 minutes left. Isn’t that a good, competitive game? Any other Madison fans as worried as I was in the first half?
I loved our girls resiliency for battling back. A great win against a scrappy, young Yorktown team. We made better adjustments and played better defense in the second half - our offense looked real good in both half's (we passed on some shots right in front of the goal while running our spread that would have generated a few more goals but given YT an opportunity to get the draw). I loved it but don’t want to discredit those young girls who fought their hearts out against us last night. Great job Patriots.
On to Oakton!
Anonymous
05/23/2023 11:22
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:One really cool thing to note is that regardless of how the H.S. season turns out this year, many of the featured players will be competing against or with each other for the next several years in the AAC. Robinson’s star midfielder, Centerville’s middie/defender #8, and Madison’s middie/attacker #9 will all play for Cincinnati, while Oakton’s star midfielder #11 (and later Woodson’s #12, and Kettle Run’s goalie) will play for JMU, and Madison attacker #5 will be playing for ODU. They should all be commended for representing Northern Virginia public schools so well.
Joining this group in the AAC will be two area players attending USF. A middie from South County who is also an All American track and field athlete. She can really get up and down the field. The other is a lethal attacker and finisher at Riverside. The AAC will be well represented by the DMV.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 11:01
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Have watched the centreville rah rah all year.
Can someone correct me if wrong but their best win was vs Langley and best accomplishments are their 4 all district recipients based on what? Stat pumping vs inferior teams?
winning lax is way more than scoring goals.
Oh. I forgot. The bbq platter.
You are very much correct. All hype. Losing record in last 10.
1 of 4 teams in the Regional Semis in the best region in the state. That is all hype? What team do you support? Don’t hide warrior
Not a warrior but a Warhawk. Roughly 50 out of the 150 pages on this thread are dedicated to discussing/hyping C'ville. As much digital ink as 17-1 Oakton, if not more. I think it's accurate to say it's not warranted.
Let's compare resumes with Madison.
One team has lost 7 out of 11 in the back half of the season. They had a losing record in Districts. They lost every big game they played (Robinson, Battlefield, South Lakes, Madison, Oakton x 3) except for a win against a 2nd seed from the Liberty district in the first round of regionals. Yet they remain the topic of the day even after they are done...
The other team beat Robinson, South Lakes, Centerville, and went 1-1 against the 17-1 Oakton Cougars, including beating them in the District Championship. Their losses are to Oakton, two strong privates, and a meaningless final regular season game against a well-coached Westfield. That's a hype-worthy resume as the Regional final approaches.
Which team had the better year? Heck, we could do the same comparison with South Lakes, or Battlefield, or Robinson.
No disrespect to a nice team and program with some great players in Centreville. I'm just saying that the hype has been totally disproportionate to the performance. And better teams are ignored in the conversation.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 10:52
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Teams win not individuals. No one remembers individual accolades. They remember championships. Great that girls get noticed for their individual accomplishments but the team concept is what matters. The best teams are in their respective places. Role players are just as important in the goal to win. Complete teams will rise and have risen to the top of their respective regions.
Anonymous
05/23/2023 10:48
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any Madison / Yorktown updates?
11-9 Madison final.
Evidently Yorktown was up most of the game and lost it at the end.
Bad information, 2nd half was total domination from Madison
Agree. Madison didn't just win it at the end. Yorktown came to play and jumped out to a 3-0 lead and it seesawed back and forth from 1 to 2 goal lead for Yorktown for most to the first half. Yorktown 8-6 at half.
Madison dominated a hard fought second half--5 goals to 1--and won by 2. Madison was able to hold the ball for last 6 mins. Warhawk seniors simply would not let the game get away.
Yorktown goalie played a great game, but Madison kept grinding away to get quality shots. Good game.
5 goals to 1 in the 2nd half is not total domination especially considering Yorktown was a .500 team coming into this game. Yorktown still managed to put 9 into the Warhawk net. Not bad for almost all sophomore and junior offense. That would have made a great upset.
5-1 times 2 halves = 10-2. That would be pretty dominant, no?
Anonymous
05/23/2023 10:46
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
2 for sure
Anonymous
05/23/2023 10:34
Subject: VHSL Girls Lacrosse Spring 2023
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Have watched the centreville rah rah all year.
Can someone correct me if wrong but their best win was vs Langley and best accomplishments are their 4 all district recipients based on what? Stat pumping vs inferior teams?
winning lax is way more than scoring goals.
Oh. I forgot. The bbq platter.
You don't think the 4 Cville girls deserved their all-district awards?