Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:43     Subject: Re:Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Another contender starting to step up.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/08/11/novavax-ready-to-produce-nearly-3-billion-coronavi/

Anonymous
Post 08/12/2020 11:03     Subject: Re:Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Pfizer hopes to have Phase 3 results by October. All my fingers crossed. That could be a huge boost, particularly since they're already planning to (or are) manufacturing doses at risk.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/08/11/biontech-and-pfizer-hope-to-have-late-stage-corona/
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2020 12:21     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article summarizing information about "effective herd immunity" and t-cell immunity.

After reading about the role of t-cell immunity and cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses, like SARS, I've wondered if some of the divergence in impact we've seen in populations worldwide has to do with historical exposure to these various other coronaviruses. I heard this theory discussed early on, but this is the first discussion I've seen in the press for a while.

I think we're going to find out that the difference in the pandemic in the Far East is going to be partially due to masking and governmental interventions that are the legacy of SARS, but also the the fact that their population was previously exposed to SARS and other similar coronaviruses and has more natural t-cell immunity.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/reasons-for-covid-19-optimism-on-t-cells-and-herd-immunity.html


This is an interesting body of research right now. Then, you add in how previous vaccines you have taken may also have a role. I have a colleague in New York. His wife got sick and confirmed COVID positive. He never felt ill in the slightest. He speculated that it was his (I believe) tuberculosis vaccine he got as a kid in Russia.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html


An Israeli study concluded the TB shot didn’t help. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2766182

It could be a crappy study though.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2020 12:08     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:I know it's a RUSSIAN vaccine BUT it's not...terrible news? 2 vaccines have now been approved for use.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html


I personally think this is excellent news.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2020 12:05     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article summarizing information about "effective herd immunity" and t-cell immunity.

After reading about the role of t-cell immunity and cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses, like SARS, I've wondered if some of the divergence in impact we've seen in populations worldwide has to do with historical exposure to these various other coronaviruses. I heard this theory discussed early on, but this is the first discussion I've seen in the press for a while.

I think we're going to find out that the difference in the pandemic in the Far East is going to be partially due to masking and governmental interventions that are the legacy of SARS, but also the the fact that their population was previously exposed to SARS and other similar coronaviruses and has more natural t-cell immunity.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/reasons-for-covid-19-optimism-on-t-cells-and-herd-immunity.html


This is an interesting body of research right now. Then, you add in how previous vaccines you have taken may also have a role. I have a colleague in New York. His wife got sick and confirmed COVID positive. He never felt ill in the slightest. He speculated that it was his (I believe) tuberculosis vaccine he got as a kid in Russia.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html


It would also make sense for why kids are relatively unscathed by COVID, having had a host of more recent vaccinations. Esp. the much-maligned MMR vaccine.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2020 11:47     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article summarizing information about "effective herd immunity" and t-cell immunity.

After reading about the role of t-cell immunity and cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses, like SARS, I've wondered if some of the divergence in impact we've seen in populations worldwide has to do with historical exposure to these various other coronaviruses. I heard this theory discussed early on, but this is the first discussion I've seen in the press for a while.

I think we're going to find out that the difference in the pandemic in the Far East is going to be partially due to masking and governmental interventions that are the legacy of SARS, but also the the fact that their population was previously exposed to SARS and other similar coronaviruses and has more natural t-cell immunity.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/reasons-for-covid-19-optimism-on-t-cells-and-herd-immunity.html


This is an interesting body of research right now. Then, you add in how previous vaccines you have taken may also have a role. I have a colleague in New York. His wife got sick and confirmed COVID positive. He never felt ill in the slightest. He speculated that it was his (I believe) tuberculosis vaccine he got as a kid in Russia.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2020 10:05     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:I know it's a RUSSIAN vaccine BUT it's not...terrible news? 2 vaccines have now been approved for use.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html


I just want to know Which Putin daughter and than which Trump daughter will volunteer here first....
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2020 10:04     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
I know it's a RUSSIAN vaccine BUT it's not...terrible news? 2 vaccines have now been approved for use.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2020 00:05     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article summarizing information about "effective herd immunity" and t-cell immunity.

After reading about the role of t-cell immunity and cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses, like SARS, I've wondered if some of the divergence in impact we've seen in populations worldwide has to do with historical exposure to these various other coronaviruses. I heard this theory discussed early on, but this is the first discussion I've seen in the press for a while.

I think we're going to find out that the difference in the pandemic in the Far East is going to be partially due to masking and governmental interventions that are the legacy of SARS, but also the the fact that their population was previously exposed to SARS and other similar coronaviruses and has more natural t-cell immunity.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/reasons-for-covid-19-optimism-on-t-cells-and-herd-immunity.html


Is the good news that the US has no herd immunity?


No that the US may reach herd immunity in part because of the number infected, the number that just naturally have T-cell function that serves as immunity, and that some people have acquired immunity based on exposure to prior coronavirus exposure.


When though? 2022 most likely.


The most positive thing I took away from that article is that the cross protection will make it a lot easier to reach herd immunity once we have some decent but not perfect first generation vaccines. That is actually VERY good news.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 17:16     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article summarizing information about "effective herd immunity" and t-cell immunity.

After reading about the role of t-cell immunity and cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses, like SARS, I've wondered if some of the divergence in impact we've seen in populations worldwide has to do with historical exposure to these various other coronaviruses. I heard this theory discussed early on, but this is the first discussion I've seen in the press for a while.

I think we're going to find out that the difference in the pandemic in the Far East is going to be partially due to masking and governmental interventions that are the legacy of SARS, but also the the fact that their population was previously exposed to SARS and other similar coronaviruses and has more natural t-cell immunity.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/reasons-for-covid-19-optimism-on-t-cells-and-herd-immunity.html


Is the good news that the US has no herd immunity?


No that the US may reach herd immunity in part because of the number infected, the number that just naturally have T-cell function that serves as immunity, and that some people have acquired immunity based on exposure to prior coronavirus exposure.


When though? 2022 most likely.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 17:00     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article summarizing information about "effective herd immunity" and t-cell immunity.

After reading about the role of t-cell immunity and cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses, like SARS, I've wondered if some of the divergence in impact we've seen in populations worldwide has to do with historical exposure to these various other coronaviruses. I heard this theory discussed early on, but this is the first discussion I've seen in the press for a while.

I think we're going to find out that the difference in the pandemic in the Far East is going to be partially due to masking and governmental interventions that are the legacy of SARS, but also the the fact that their population was previously exposed to SARS and other similar coronaviruses and has more natural t-cell immunity.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/reasons-for-covid-19-optimism-on-t-cells-and-herd-immunity.html


Is the good news that the US has no herd immunity?


No that the US may reach herd immunity in part because of the number infected, the number that just naturally have T-cell function that serves as immunity, and that some people have acquired immunity based on exposure to prior coronavirus exposure.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 16:35     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Not DMV related but Florida is trending positively in every metric...

https://covidtracking.com/data/state/florida

They could very well be past week and entering in a gradual decline to eventual herd immunity -the same thing that NY is experiencing now.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 12:54     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:Interesting article summarizing information about "effective herd immunity" and t-cell immunity.

After reading about the role of t-cell immunity and cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses, like SARS, I've wondered if some of the divergence in impact we've seen in populations worldwide has to do with historical exposure to these various other coronaviruses. I heard this theory discussed early on, but this is the first discussion I've seen in the press for a while.

I think we're going to find out that the difference in the pandemic in the Far East is going to be partially due to masking and governmental interventions that are the legacy of SARS, but also the the fact that their population was previously exposed to SARS and other similar coronaviruses and has more natural t-cell immunity.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/reasons-for-covid-19-optimism-on-t-cells-and-herd-immunity.html


Is the good news that the US has no herd immunity?
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 12:31     Subject: Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Interesting article summarizing information about "effective herd immunity" and t-cell immunity.

After reading about the role of t-cell immunity and cross-reactivity with other coronaviruses, like SARS, I've wondered if some of the divergence in impact we've seen in populations worldwide has to do with historical exposure to these various other coronaviruses. I heard this theory discussed early on, but this is the first discussion I've seen in the press for a while.

I think we're going to find out that the difference in the pandemic in the Far East is going to be partially due to masking and governmental interventions that are the legacy of SARS, but also the the fact that their population was previously exposed to SARS and other similar coronaviruses and has more natural t-cell immunity.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/reasons-for-covid-19-optimism-on-t-cells-and-herd-immunity.html
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2020 09:34     Subject: Re:Coronavirus good Uplifting and hopeful news only
Anonymous wrote:^ I posted right above you about going to orange in TN and yep our change was after we finally got a mask mandate as well.


I noticed that once masks were mandated, there was a lot of online debate, but very little in person confrontation. People will get used to masks as a temporary control measure. It's unfortunate that we let our numbers get so high before requiring masks-- I've noticed that our rates continue to stabilize and decline but the new case raw numbers are still high because we let things get to a crisis due to politics and local resistance.