Anonymous
04/04/2024 08:08
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:I think it's more likely that it was BB. But my post above was if anyone knew @ timing of people close to CB unfollowing Big Mama on social media.
I thought it was last summer, around the time when people were posting her instagram (now private) posts here. Most of those have been deleted.
Anonymous
04/04/2024 08:07
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The delay in summoning help and cutting the child off from maternal family are also pretty damning imo.
How are we certain that he cut the kid off from grandparents again? Not saying it’s not true, just don’t remember how this came up.
I don’t know them personally but I can tell you this…. The mother and sister of CB and the former au Pair who was very close with CB used to be on social media connected to BBs mother. Remember, the families are from the same area. Then, at one point they all “unfriended” BBs mother. Something happened.
Anyone have a sense of the timing of that?
In deleted posts on another site someone said that there was coldness between CB's family and BB at funeral. Her dad is LE and her mom, too, no?
I can't imagine what this is like for them and Joe's family and friends as AP's lawyer smears both in death and BB smirks at it all with duper's delight.
BB and CB met as teens and their families had known one another for decades.
The CB text is poignant to me, BB seems very cold as a baseline and was having an affair in the marital home. She may have lost weight as part of this birthday gift scene and I bet she was lonely. BB's was off at the gym with chubby AP with the rack. The poor child was living in a crazy environment even before losing her mom and 1/2 her extended family. I hope karma comes for BB. None of this would have happened without his machinations. Not death, not Fe&life, none of it.
We don’t know that CB even sent that message. Yes, she sent a pic to her husband but we don’t know who was communicating with JR. Given law enforcement statements early on that they believed someone else set up the account I’m hoping that the chats through the site clearly show that the person posing as CB was not a native English speaker
Then who was talking (using their voice) to JR?
Anonymous
04/04/2024 08:06
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Msg could have been part of lure, to make sure JR was firmly on the hook. If he had backed out, would have blown up the scheme.
Not sure most women would talk about having lost 20 lbs to a stranger in this context, goes against the jdbf ethos of many men.
It will be a good day when BB is held accountable for his role in all this.
Not sure most women would talk about having lost 20 lbs to a stranger in this context, goes against the jdbf ethos of many men.
It will be a good day when BB is held accountable for his role in all this.
Anonymous
04/04/2024 08:05
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
1. If BB was truly innocent I can understand not speaking with the cops and taking the 5th. If the most he was guilty of was sleeping with AP and trying to impress her by taking her to a gun range and buying her a gun (terrible coincidence of course), then he’d be well within good lawyerly advice to keep his mouth shut because the facts look bad for him. For similar reasons the fact that he isn’t convening press conferences to declare his innocence I find of no matter. Plenty of guilty husbands went over the top doing such things.
2. The version of events supplied thus far by the prosecution do enable a reading where BB was innocent. We can draw inferences both ways and don’t have enough facts.
3. The fact that the state is pursuing the case against the AP however continues to suggest to me they have additional evidence supporting theory this is some sort of plot/conspiracy orchestrated by BB. But on merely the facts we’ve seen (and without drawing inferences from such facts and/or what behavior we think a guilty person may engage in), it doesn’t surprise me if some people aren’t convinced.
For the record I think BB probably did it. But if I was on a jury right now with only the evidence discussed so far, I’m not sure I could vote to convict. (If I were on a grand jury however I think there is enough to indict.)
Just have to sit tight and wait for more info.
2. The version of events supplied thus far by the prosecution do enable a reading where BB was innocent. We can draw inferences both ways and don’t have enough facts.
3. The fact that the state is pursuing the case against the AP however continues to suggest to me they have additional evidence supporting theory this is some sort of plot/conspiracy orchestrated by BB. But on merely the facts we’ve seen (and without drawing inferences from such facts and/or what behavior we think a guilty person may engage in), it doesn’t surprise me if some people aren’t convinced.
For the record I think BB probably did it. But if I was on a jury right now with only the evidence discussed so far, I’m not sure I could vote to convict. (If I were on a grand jury however I think there is enough to indict.)
Just have to sit tight and wait for more info.
Anonymous
04/04/2024 08:00
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
I think it's more likely that it was BB. But my post above was if anyone knew @ timing of people close to CB unfollowing Big Mama on social media.
Anonymous
04/04/2024 07:56
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The delay in summoning help and cutting the child off from maternal family are also pretty damning imo.
How are we certain that he cut the kid off from grandparents again? Not saying it’s not true, just don’t remember how this came up.
I don’t know them personally but I can tell you this…. The mother and sister of CB and the former au Pair who was very close with CB used to be on social media connected to BBs mother. Remember, the families are from the same area. Then, at one point they all “unfriended” BBs mother. Something happened.
Anyone have a sense of the timing of that?
In deleted posts on another site someone said that there was coldness between CB's family and BB at funeral. Her dad is LE and her mom, too, no?
I can't imagine what this is like for them and Joe's family and friends as AP's lawyer smears both in death and BB smirks at it all with duper's delight.
BB and CB met as teens and their families had known one another for decades.
The CB text is poignant to me, BB seems very cold as a baseline and was having an affair in the marital home. She may have lost weight as part of this birthday gift scene and I bet she was lonely. BB's was off at the gym with chubby AP with the rack. The poor child was living in a crazy environment even before losing her mom and 1/2 her extended family. I hope karma comes for BB. None of this would have happened without his machinations. Not death, not Fe&life, none of it.
We don’t know that CB even sent that message. Yes, she sent a pic to her husband but we don’t know who was communicating with JR. Given law enforcement statements early on that they believed someone else set up the account I’m hoping that the chats through the site clearly show that the person posing as CB was not a native English speaker
Anonymous
Anonymous
04/04/2024 07:19
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Leave it to a proper UK tab to sum of the whole mess in one headline.
Anonymous
04/04/2024 07:18
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
FETISH MURDER PLOT Au pair, 23, & her boss lover ‘killed his wife & lured BDSM fan to his death in warped plot for killers to be together’
The duo hatched an elaborate plan so they could be together
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27112573/au-pair-boss-lover-killed-wife-bdsm-fan/
So sad. Hoping for justice for JR and CB and for the child to be reunited with her mother's family.
The duo hatched an elaborate plan so they could be together
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27112573/au-pair-boss-lover-killed-wife-bdsm-fan/
So sad. Hoping for justice for JR and CB and for the child to be reunited with her mother's family.
Anonymous
04/04/2024 07:16
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
I think info came out at a bond hearing in December, so, possible. Re: that hearing the WP article came out a few days later.
PP how do you know that WP was there?
We should think about crowd sourcing the transcript.
PP how do you know that WP was there?
We should think about crowd sourcing the transcript.
Anonymous
04/04/2024 07:09
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
As to PP statement “ Other facts that came out (from chat transcripts and other things referred to by both sides)”
These are not “facts” in any way but just statements (much like our statements on this thread are not “facts”). The chat transcripts can be ascribed to a persona only. Anyone (and even more than one person) could be behind the chat ID. As the now decades old New Yorker cartoon stated, “No one on the internet knows your a dog.”
These are not “facts” in any way but just statements (much like our statements on this thread are not “facts”). The chat transcripts can be ascribed to a persona only. Anyone (and even more than one person) could be behind the chat ID. As the now decades old New Yorker cartoon stated, “No one on the internet knows your a dog.”
Anonymous
04/04/2024 07:08
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Investigators believe the murders were part of an elaborate plot so the nanny and boss could be together — without the wife in the way. Ryan was collateral damage, cops believe.
Toronto Sun article, written before bond hearing
Anonymous
04/04/2024 07:06
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Per Toronto Sun
Detectives later discovered that Peres Magalhaes was carrying on a torrid affair with hubby Brendan Banfield behind his wife’s back.
Now, Peres Magalhaes has been charged with murdering Ryan as part of an elaborate ruse to get rid of Christine Banfield. Cops say there will be more charges and arrests.
Anonymous
04/04/2024 07:04
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous
04/04/2024 06:57
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:AP had a bond hearing on Tuesday.
Here is what happened.
Defense and Prosecutor entered several pieces of evidence. Including:
- A copy of the chats between CB and JR was entered under seal
- Multiple pictures of the scene were entered, many under seal.
Defense's Argument
- Prosecutor previously "misstated" that AP had bought plane tickets using her passport.
- She actually had used to apply for a work visa and student visa. AP was legally in the country at the time of her arrest with no intention of leaving.
- Prosecutor has not provided any actual evidence of a conspiracy. Just public statements.
- AP was actively dating multiple people, did not deny relationship with BB during police interview, but mentioned she was dating several people.
- Prosecutor overstated extent of JR's incapacitation from first shot. The Medical Examiner stated that there was possibility that JR could see and move.
Prosecutor's Argument
- Prosecutor surprised Defense with a document showing that ICE has asked to be notified if she is release from custody, and they have a warrant for her. He is afraid that if she is released and ends up in federal custody, they will deport her.
- Prosecutor stated that there is no extradition treaty with Brazil, and that the Feds do not have to acknowledge the case's priority. Feds could just deport AP and then the state of VA has no control.
- Prosecutor also argued that she is manipulative and can be manipulated, and therefore still a danger.
- Displayed a picture of JR's body. JR was clutching his stomach on his back
- Mainly re-iterated things said previously at preliminary hearing.
- Mentioned that BB took the 5th on every question during prelim.
Other facts that came out (from chat transcripts and other things referred to by both sides)
- CB and JR communicated using Fetlife and Telegram.
- JR brought up the idea of bringing a knife, CB asked about the details.
- They discussed blood play (cutting)
- CB asked JR, "Do you still want to tear off my clothes? I have a set of old pajamas you can tear"
- A set of ripped pajamas was recovered from the scene
- Pics of a knife, ropes, chains, rubber restraints were sent by JR to CB
- CB took selfie in a bathing suit and sent to husband. A few hours later sent the same selfie to JR with caption: "I sent this to my husband and he didn't even notice I lost 20 pounds"
- Judge questioned about the 45 min phone call over telegram that occurred between CB and JR
- After the phone call, JR texted: "It was great hearing your sexy voice"
- JR wrote that he had only done blood play once before, with razor blades
- CB had several superficial cuts that barely broke the skin
- JR was in the process of cutting CB with BB walked in
- CB wrote "trip to the zoo" on calendar
- CB had multiple lacerations to her neck and carotid artery. Three lacerations to the right side of her neck were the most likely the cause of death
- In the second 911 call, (mentioned but not played) BB is trying to save CB's life by applying pressure
Judge's Decision
Denied bond for two reasons.
- First, that FCPD could lose jurisdiction/control if the Feds take custody and/or deport
- Second, that AP could still pose a risk to community.
I'm curious why all of this "new" evidence about Juliana's defense would be discussed at a bond hearing (when not brought up at the previous bond hearing). What does any of these supposed texts and details about CB have to do with her ability to not flee the country? Also weird that the bond hearing was Tuesday morning but no one has reported on it- because some of these new details are a little shocking to say the least.
PP- were you there in person?