Anonymous
07/05/2022 16:50
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
She sure isn’t willing to go there yet as it would cost her a slew of quasi Christian followers who enjoy the freedom of no biblical standards but like enjoy the idea of a savior. Doubt she’ll call it all fantasy while her parents are alive.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 16:24
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Perhaps Jen has finally come to the realization that Christianity, and all religions, are just fantasy.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 16:22
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Maybe Jen discovered he was stealing from the church or something and didn’t want to turn him in because she didn’t want her kids’ dad in jail. Maybe the church agreed not to prosecute if they paid it back. Or maybe he just spent money and she didn’t know about it. But something financial happened.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 16:18
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else wish they could get into the group chat of ex ANCers? We’ve been fed such self serving fantasy by Jen’s social media that hearing from real people telling the truth would be quite liberating.
This would probably be filled with disgruntled people who wanted to be her best friend but didn't make the cut. Everyone is a critic.
That’s laughable— is this Mr. Corneater himself, aka Tray “Trustfund Baby” Pruet? Never wanted to be anyone’s best friend, sweetheart. I’m not out to win any popularity contests or to eat lunch at the cool kids’ table. I would, however, expect that as a church “planter”, she would be a little more relatable and approachable than she was. What she was good at is delegating all the dirty work. I imagine she’s never cleaned a toilet in her life; she’s too good for such demeaning work. That’s my issue— she thinks she’s better than me, you, all of us. I’m not one of the women who ever worshipped her. You could have hula hooped through some of the huge hoop earrings that women started wearing as soon as she started sporting those tacky huge earrings. Jen ate it up— she lavishes praise and affirmation. She says so herself— her dad heaped praise upon praise on her siblings and her. I applaud instilling confidence in your children, but I think it really molded Jen, and not in a good way.
I’ve fed you a snack little troll— now move along.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 16:00
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
The jerky comments tend to come right when the thread starts to unwrap something significant. Like a potential financial impropriety. Makes you wonder, huh?
Anonymous
07/05/2022 15:50
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
the house is on the colorado RIVER. i think the term river house is appropriate, but most people would still call it a lake house.
some people on this site are such jerks!
some people on this site are such jerks!
Anonymous
07/05/2022 15:27
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else wish they could get into the group chat of ex ANCers? We’ve been fed such self serving fantasy by Jen’s social media that hearing from real people telling the truth would be quite liberating.
This would probably be filled with disgruntled people who wanted to be her best friend but didn't make the cut. Everyone is a critic.
Didn’t make the cut?
It’s church, heaux, not cheer try outs. If you’re gatekeeping friendship in 2022 I got news for you.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 15:11
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
The affirming thing is a microcosm of Jen and her approach to every single thing. (And typical for the narcissist leaning social media influencers). Every thought is a gem. Every opinion and belief is gospel. Even if it was different last week. That was true then but this is true now. Don’t you dare point out nuance or hypocrisy as you are then a hater.
We watched the affirmation dominoes fall in the evangelical world as more and more of the kids started coming out. It’s hit every church all over the country. When Jen and Brandon made the 180 it was as predictable as the sunrise that one of their kids was coming out.
The issue is she was ALL ABOUT a Biblical stance on marriage. And then she was ALL ABOUT affirmation. There was no nuance or “wow this was a hard shift for us because xyz.” Or even “we still hold to a biblical definition of marriage BUT HAVING A GAY KID HAS MADE US RETHINK WHAT THAT MEANS.” Sorry for yelling im super annoyed.
It was laughable in the post she made that discounted hundreds of years of church doctrine with their 7 months of digging Into the scriptures. I mean come on you’re no scholar and it’s disingenuous not to reveal you had a very motivating factor to become affirming. But she was all in 100% affirming this is the truth no questions asked I’ll block any haters I’m a biblical scholar this is it and she made that turn on a dime.
A dear friend and pastor has a gay daughter and the way my friend has handled it has been amazing. She is very upfront about saying a gay daughter has made me rethink a lot of things I think I knew. Some have changed and some haven’t. I’ll never post about my thoughts and learnings but I’d love to have coffee with you if you want to discuss. It’s a hard and nuanced topic that is grounded in relationship not social media posts.
But with Jen it’s the best ever ever ever until it isn’t and then the new thing is the best ever ever and that other thing isn’t anymore don’t even ask me about it because well now this thing is the best ever ever.
We watched the affirmation dominoes fall in the evangelical world as more and more of the kids started coming out. It’s hit every church all over the country. When Jen and Brandon made the 180 it was as predictable as the sunrise that one of their kids was coming out.
The issue is she was ALL ABOUT a Biblical stance on marriage. And then she was ALL ABOUT affirmation. There was no nuance or “wow this was a hard shift for us because xyz.” Or even “we still hold to a biblical definition of marriage BUT HAVING A GAY KID HAS MADE US RETHINK WHAT THAT MEANS.” Sorry for yelling im super annoyed.
It was laughable in the post she made that discounted hundreds of years of church doctrine with their 7 months of digging Into the scriptures. I mean come on you’re no scholar and it’s disingenuous not to reveal you had a very motivating factor to become affirming. But she was all in 100% affirming this is the truth no questions asked I’ll block any haters I’m a biblical scholar this is it and she made that turn on a dime.
A dear friend and pastor has a gay daughter and the way my friend has handled it has been amazing. She is very upfront about saying a gay daughter has made me rethink a lot of things I think I knew. Some have changed and some haven’t. I’ll never post about my thoughts and learnings but I’d love to have coffee with you if you want to discuss. It’s a hard and nuanced topic that is grounded in relationship not social media posts.
But with Jen it’s the best ever ever ever until it isn’t and then the new thing is the best ever ever and that other thing isn’t anymore don’t even ask me about it because well now this thing is the best ever ever.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 14:03
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone else wish they could get into the group chat of ex ANCers? We’ve been fed such self serving fantasy by Jen’s social media that hearing from real people telling the truth would be quite liberating.
This would probably be filled with disgruntled people who wanted to be her best friend but didn't make the cut.
I liked Seven but once I started reading Jen on social media I deducted a distinct Mean Girl vibe (usually wallpapered over of course) from her and her tribe. I give you exhibit 1 -- clearly from either a tribe member or Jen herself.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:51
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Brandon has openly referred to his struggles as “addiction” and talked about “recovery”. He’s still posting pictures of himself drinking - so I would assume it wasn’t alcohol or drugs. What’s left besides gambling or sex?
Sex it is. Can’t possibly be anything else. Could be porn, gambling, pain killers, online chat sex lines, gay tendencies at the local adult video theater, I’ll advised business investments, perhaps anger issues or lashing out to certain children. Who knows. I’m sure there’s something out there.
It was mentioned somewhere by one of Jen's neighbors that Brandon stole money from his church and one of the charities. It's been up to Jen to pay the money back, which is why she had to sell her river home.
Where was this “mentioned?” What neighbor? How would a neighbor know this? Why would it be on Jen to pay everything back? Brandon has a job. And why are you referring to the lake house (not river btw) as her home? They owned it jointly. Sorry, but that’s a lot of loose assumptions and incorrect information to just casually drop and go.
Let’s debate house vs home. 🙄
Cute attempt at being clever but the debate was over the initial comment referring to a river house when it was actually a lake house. I know, details are hard.
Yeah, it was already pointed out it was river not lake. The comment was also talking about a difference between house vs home and what that term means. It’s ok- not everyone can keep up.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 13:05
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Brandon has openly referred to his struggles as “addiction” and talked about “recovery”. He’s still posting pictures of himself drinking - so I would assume it wasn’t alcohol or drugs. What’s left besides gambling or sex?
Sex it is. Can’t possibly be anything else. Could be porn, gambling, pain killers, online chat sex lines, gay tendencies at the local adult video theater, I’ll advised business investments, perhaps anger issues or lashing out to certain children. Who knows. I’m sure there’s something out there.
It was mentioned somewhere by one of Jen's neighbors that Brandon stole money from his church and one of the charities. It's been up to Jen to pay the money back, which is why she had to sell her river home.
Where was this “mentioned?” What neighbor? How would a neighbor know this? Why would it be on Jen to pay everything back? Brandon has a job. And why are you referring to the lake house (not river btw) as her home? They owned it jointly. Sorry, but that’s a lot of loose assumptions and incorrect information to just casually drop and go.
To me the discrepancy was the “river home” instead of the “lake house” which was always how it referred to, described, stated in all blog and Facebook posts. Unless of course they said it differently to their neighbor who was the source of this revelation.
Let’s debate house vs home. 🙄
Anonymous
07/05/2022 12:28
Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Maybe the issue here about the affirmation isn't to call out her change of opinion- which yes, is not uncommon at all and is in fact the status quo among progressive Christians. Maybe the problem if when someone has a change of heart and immediately claims to "hate" the 50 percent or so of Christians who think like she did last week!
Also, as is often sadly the case, on the heels of "deconstruction" seems to have come "disolution"- changes in expression(cringy frequent profanity), announcing that church isn't necessary, and basically acting as though her faith has a very small place in her head. This is happening with a lot of celebrity Christians theses days and leads me to think that some of them only hung onto Christianity as long as things went well for them. When life lets them down, there's nothing there, showing that they are just as much a victim of "American Christianity" and the prosperity/personal happiness thing as the poor dumb Evangelicals that they scorn.
It’s a common tale. Back in the 90s and 2000s there was no real downside for celebrities, culturally, to being a Christian, even a conservative ones with conservative values. Now days, though, there is a huge downside for celebrities and people in the media
saying things like sex before marriage is a sin, that even a thing like ‘sin’ exists, that human life begins at conception, that Christ and Christi alone saves sinners, etc. Nothing will get you immediately dismissed from elite circles than believing and saying such horrifically unfashionable things. Therefore, we are seeing is a mass abandonment from such beliefs among formally “Christian Celebrities”. Basically, no one wants to be the weirdo and outside the mainstream looking in, especially ambitious social climber types. The thirst for public approval for folks such as these is just too intense.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 12:21
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
So did anyone here actually get to go to Jen's house for these dinners for 12 with the pastor?
Anonymous
07/05/2022 11:52
Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Maybe the issue here about the affirmation isn't to call out her change of opinion- which yes, is not uncommon at all and is in fact the status quo among progressive Christians. Maybe the problem if when someone has a change of heart and immediately claims to "hate" the 50 percent or so of Christians who think like she did last week!
Also, as is often sadly the case, on the heels of "deconstruction" seems to have come "disolution"- changes in expression(cringy frequent profanity), announcing that church isn't necessary, and basically acting as though her faith has a very small place in her head. This is happening with a lot of celebrity Christians theses days and leads me to think that some of them only hung onto Christianity as long as things went well for them. When life lets them down, there's nothing there, showing that they are just as much a victim of "American Christianity" and the prosperity/personal happiness thing as the poor dumb Evangelicals that they scorn.
Also, as is often sadly the case, on the heels of "deconstruction" seems to have come "disolution"- changes in expression(cringy frequent profanity), announcing that church isn't necessary, and basically acting as though her faith has a very small place in her head. This is happening with a lot of celebrity Christians theses days and leads me to think that some of them only hung onto Christianity as long as things went well for them. When life lets them down, there's nothing there, showing that they are just as much a victim of "American Christianity" and the prosperity/personal happiness thing as the poor dumb Evangelicals that they scorn.
Anonymous
07/05/2022 11:38
Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Anyone else wish they could get into the group chat of ex ANCers? We’ve been fed such self serving fantasy by Jen’s social media that hearing from real people telling the truth would be quite liberating.
This would probably be filled with disgruntled people who wanted to be her best friend but didn't make the cut. Everyone is a critic.