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Anonymous wrote:Another trial balloon; Foreign Affairs calls the war unwinnable and time to start a negotiated end: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/unwinnable-war-washington-endgame

Negotiated end is not beneficial for 🇺🇸

Why not?

I see. I come onto your property and then I tell you that if you don't give me some of that property I will kill and maim your children. So I give you the property and that is so beneficial for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine won’t be alone forever.

Poland is eager to get in the fight for any reason. They really, really hate Russians.
And they have a better military than Ukraine.

I was in Krakow and Warsaw this year and Polish people are not eager to fight. They are eager to make money on this war, but they dont' care to die for Ukrainian soil.

LOL as the BBC item above shows, this desire isn't universal even amongst the Ukrainians themselves.

Just wait until you hear about russian support for their invasion. They just declared that all the PMC's have to sign contracts with the MOD and got rid of medical and critical specialty exemptions. Oh, and the also get killed by their own comrades if they retreat or get captured. And wait there's more, the Chechens, who are getting paid 3x the mobiks have been sent to Belgorod to shoot the cadets and conscripts if theyk run away. What a country!

Anyways, it's all irrelevant until this counter-offensive is over. Has it even begun yet? Where are the Challengers all

Are you also a Ukrainian living in the US?
It’s interesting to observe the two Ukrainians arguing lol

Nope. But guess what I just heard. This year's summer internship program for students in russia is the opportunity to "rebuild" infrastructure in Mariopul or to provide "healthcare" in Luhansk. Sign up quick, spaces are limited. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

But are you Ukrainian? Just not in the US?

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Anonymous wrote:This Ukrainian counteroffensive will begin a series of fallen dominoes that will end in total Ukrainian victory. After our winter of discontent this will be our summer of Victory!! First for Ukraine and then for Biden in ‘24!!

You are totally delusional or you must be getting the news from the US mainstream media. Ukrainian army in a desperate state. They have less than 10% of people needed to fight. The rest men fleeing the country, legally or illegally. People taking their 17y old boys outside of Ukraine before they turn 18 and are drafted to avoid guaranteed death. Russia is now in full production of drones identical to the one they received from Iran, and no longer relying on Iranians help. Ukraine is falling desperately and it is time to cut its losses and to stop this war to save some people.

Your writing style and unusual grammar pretty clearly outs you as a Russian.

This propaganda gets worse and more transparent every day.

I guess it is not as clear as your think because I am Ukrainian and live in the US.

It’s ironic how so many Ukrainians think they are oh so different from the Russians but in reality it’s nearly impossible to tell them apart

I can spot them by their winning.

In the US?! Or maybe you meant whining?

Wow. You're dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine won’t be alone forever.

Poland is eager to get in the fight for any reason. They really, really hate Russians.
And they have a better military than Ukraine.

I was in Krakow and Warsaw this year and Polish people are not eager to fight. They are eager to make money on this war, but they dont' care to die for Ukrainian soil.

LOL as the BBC item above shows, this desire isn't universal even amongst the Ukrainians themselves.

Just wait until you hear about russian support for their invasion. They just declared that all the PMC's have to sign contracts with the MOD and got rid of medical and critical specialty exemptions. Oh, and the also get killed by their own comrades if they retreat or get captured. And wait there's more, the Chechens, who are getting paid 3x the mobiks have been sent to Belgorod to shoot the cadets and conscripts if theyk run away. What a country!

Anyways, it's all irrelevant until this counter-offensive is over. Has it even begun yet? Where are the Challengers all

Are you also a Ukrainian living in the US?
It’s interesting to observe the two Ukrainians arguing lol

Nope. But guess what I just heard. This year's summer internship program for students in russia is the opportunity to "rebuild" infrastructure in Mariopul or to provide "healthcare" in Luhansk. Sign up quick, spaces are limited. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

But are you Ukrainian? Just not in the US?

Why would PP tell you this? It's not critical to the discussion. We are all allowed to opine on this conflict, given it affects a lot of countries, what with sanctions and grain deals.

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Anonymous wrote:From the ramp up in troll posts railing about "the war is unwinnable" and "Ukrainians are horrible nazis" it's clear to see the Russians are having a hard time coping with Ukraine's counteroffensive. 😆

Those silly Russian bots trying to spread propaganda are just having the hardest time lol.

So are the folks who bleat impotently that they “just want peace!” Or aka they basically don’t like to think too hard about geopolitics and allies and all that hard stuff, and would like Ukraine to just get annexed. So they can fk off.

Anonymous wrote:The main Ukrainian forces have not been committed to battle; so unless Ukraine has something ultra new tactic the main offensive has not begun- unless their main force is a bunch of inflatables like america used to fool the Germans.

I’d like to see a sneak flank through Russian territory cutting off south western Russia from the war - but I do not think they have enough resources for that. But if would be cool for Ukraine to occupy a good chunk of Russia for a while.

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Anonymous wrote:Another trial balloon; Foreign Affairs calls the war unwinnable and time to start a negotiated end: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/unwinnable-war-washington-endgame

Negotiated end is not beneficial for 🇺🇸

Why not?

I see. I come onto your property and then I tell you that if you don't give me some of that property I will kill and maim your children. So I give you the property and that is so beneficial for everyone.

Happens to the Palestinians every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Well don't do it then. Go home.

LOL go tell Bibi.

Lol.. blab on about other conflicts all you want to no effect

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Anonymous wrote:Another trial balloon; Foreign Affairs calls the war unwinnable and time to start a negotiated end: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/unwinnable-war-washington-endgame

Negotiated end is not beneficial for 🇺🇸

Why not?

I see. I come onto your property and then I tell you that if you don't give me some of that property I will kill and maim your children. So I give you the property and that is so beneficial for everyone.

Happens to the Palestinians every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Well don't do it then. Go home.

LOL go tell Bibi.

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Anonymous wrote:Another trial balloon; Foreign Affairs calls the war unwinnable and time to start a negotiated end: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/unwinnable-war-washington-endgame

Negotiated end is not beneficial for 🇺🇸

Why not?

I see. I come onto your property and then I tell you that if you don't give me some of that property I will kill and maim your children. So I give you the property and that is so beneficial for everyone.

Happens to the Palestinians every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Well don't do it then. Go home.

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Anonymous wrote:From the ramp up in troll posts railing about "the war is unwinnable" and "Ukrainians are horrible nazis" it's clear to see the Russians are having a hard time coping with Ukraine's counteroffensive. 😆

Those silly Russian bots trying to spread propaganda are just having the hardest time lol.

So are the folks who bleat impotently that they “just want peace!” Or aka they basically don’t like to think too hard about geopolitics and allies and all that hard stuff, and would like Ukraine to just get annexed. So they can fk off.

Yes we know. You're the only one allowed to have a point of view. Anything that deviates is trollish or stupid.

Nope, just like to see you squirm when asked for what your definition of “wanting peace” actually means.

And really, cleared of subtext and bs, it’s that your version of peace amounts to simply abandoning Ukraine, and also our European allies, and letting an aggressive hostile nation subsume another.

The clearer part is that you can’t even comprehend why this is damaging to our reputation and to the Western world order and western values.

A few reasons we help Ukraine:

1) we are spending a pittance of our normal defense budget to basically help grind down Russia and expose how poorly prepared they are.

2) it shows we stand in solidarity with Europe. We don’t abandon them in times of need. We can be trusted. And that’s even with our previous, bipolar seeming past mistake of having elected Donald Trump. His election showed the world that we really are a topsy turvy place and that anything could happen electorally in any given 4 year period. I mean we can go from a stable president like Obama to a real piece of sht like trump, who eschewed thinking and diplomacy.

But you can’t grasp any of that. All you can see is wanting to immediately back out and leave the Ukrainians twisting in the wind for “peace”. It won’t be a long peace if Putin is emboldened by our retreat and he takes Ukraine and the world sees we are just not interested in long term stability and capable of being a trusted ally.

The fact that you type these things with a straight face tells me you're either very young, or your cortex is not fully developed for whatever reason. "Western world order" and "western values" aren't a thing outside of America and Europe. And they certainly aren't a welcome thing, or a respected thing. The West was never held back by its own order. These rules are for other countries.

Okay, to expand on what “upholding western values” means, it means upholding the values of non-authoritarian countries like England, France, US etc. Vs authoritarian like Russia etc. Basically democracy, internet access, non-censorship, non-communism, free thought, ya know, the good stuff.

Also, it’s weird that you seized on that sentence out of the broader context of my argument. who fking cares? What’s important is that we stand by those types of countries and values. Standing by European allies and Ukraine does that.

Or maybe you are a pro Russia shill and just here to muck rake and don’t actually like democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:Another trial balloon; Foreign Affairs calls the war unwinnable and time to start a negotiated end: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/unwinnable-war-washington-endgame

Negotiated end is not beneficial for 🇺🇸

Why not?

I see. I come onto your property and then I tell you that if you don't give me some of that property I will kill and maim your children. So I give you the property and that is so beneficial for everyone.

Happens to the Palestinians every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Anonymous wrote:This war can end when Russia pulls out of all Ukrainian territories; returns all children it moved from Ukraine, turns over all Russian war criminals; 350b in cash reserves that are frozen turned over to Ukraine for down payment of reparations for damage and returns Kuril Islands to Japan.

For starters….otherwise we can spend 50b on arming Ukraine every few months.

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Anonymous wrote:Another trial balloon; Foreign Affairs calls the war unwinnable and time to start a negotiated end: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/unwinnable-war-washington-endgame

Negotiated end is not beneficial for 🇺🇸

Why not?

I see. I come onto your property and then I tell you that if you don't give me some of that property I will kill and maim your children. So I give you the property and that is so beneficial for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:From the ramp up in troll posts railing about "the war is unwinnable" and "Ukrainians are horrible nazis" it's clear to see the Russians are having a hard time coping with Ukraine's counteroffensive. 😆

Those silly Russian bots trying to spread propaganda are just having the hardest time lol.

So are the folks who bleat impotently that they “just want peace!” Or aka they basically don’t like to think too hard about geopolitics and allies and all that hard stuff, and would like Ukraine to just get annexed. So they can fk off.

Yes we know. You're the only one allowed to have a point of view. Anything that deviates is trollish or stupid.

Nope, just like to see you squirm when asked for what your definition of “wanting peace” actually means.

And really, cleared of subtext and bs, it’s that your version of peace amounts to simply abandoning Ukraine, and also our European allies, and letting an aggressive hostile nation subsume another.

The clearer part is that you can’t even comprehend why this is damaging to our reputation and to the Western world order and western values.

A few reasons we help Ukraine:

1) we are spending a pittance of our normal defense budget to basically help grind down Russia and expose how poorly prepared they are.

2) it shows we stand in solidarity with Europe. We don’t abandon them in times of need. We can be trusted. And that’s even with our previous, bipolar seeming past mistake of having elected Donald Trump. His election showed the world that we really are a topsy turvy place and that anything could happen electorally in any given 4 year period. I mean we can go from a stable president like Obama to a real piece of sht like trump, who eschewed thinking and diplomacy.

But you can’t grasp any of that. All you can see is wanting to immediately back out and leave the Ukrainians twisting in the wind for “peace”. It won’t be a long peace if Putin is emboldened by our retreat and he takes Ukraine and the world sees we are just not interested in long term stability and capable of being a trusted ally.

The fact that you type these things with a straight face tells me you're either very young, or your cortex is not fully developed for whatever reason. "Western world order" and "western values" aren't a thing outside of America and Europe. And they certainly aren't a welcome thing, or a respected thing. The West was never held back by its own order. These rules are for other countries.

Okay, to expand on what “upholding western values” means, it means upholding the values of non-authoritarian countries like England, France, US etc. Vs authoritarian like Russia etc. Basically democracy, internet access, non-censorship, non-communism, free thought, ya know, the good stuff.

Also, it’s weird that you seized on that sentence out of the broader context of my argument. who fking cares? What’s important is that we stand by those types of countries and values. Standing by European allies and Ukraine does that.

Or maybe you are a pro Russia shill and just here to muck rake and don’t actually like democracy.