Anonymous
Post 11/10/2019 15:45     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

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Anonymous wrote:If people are concerned about the theft of a public asset, they should all sign then a petition to make Duke Ellington’s site public again. Jelleff is not the biggest scam and swindle in Burleith. Ellington is the beneficiary of huge sums of public largesse - nearly 200 million dollars to renovate the building and close to 90 percent of its annual operating budget. Yet whenever watchdogs demand accountability from Ellington, the school hides behind an opaque and self-perpetuating governance scheme to claim that it is not really a public school. Fine, let’s revert and recapture a public asset - the former Western High School campus — for the public. Estimates are that approximately half of Ellington’s enrollment doesn’t even live in DC, despite being subsidized on the DC taxpayers’ nickel. Northwest DC could use another public high school. Let’s rerun this public asset that has been privately misappropriated to the public for public use. Westernize Ellington again!!


As good as an idea that may be, only the very optimistic would have any hope that the building would be repurposed to a general public HS immediately after $200M in use-specific renovations were completed.


Does supporting this idea preclude opposing handing Jelleff to Maret for another ten years for peanuts? No. People can hold two nonconflicting ideas in their heads at the same time. Try it.


Maret parents bring up the Ellington possibility to attempt to deflect from the fact that they’re hogging a desirable public asset.


We can’t deny that Ellington is an outage on so many levels: corruption, likely construction kickbacks, political favoritism, crony contracts, DC residency fraud, mismanagement, no oversight, lack of accountability, use of public resource by privately-governed institution. It’s Jelleff/Maret on steroids.


But not the topic of this thread. Focus, people.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2019 10:22     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

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Anonymous wrote:If people are concerned about the theft of a public asset, they should all sign then a petition to make Duke Ellington’s site public again. Jelleff is not the biggest scam and swindle in Burleith. Ellington is the beneficiary of huge sums of public largesse - nearly 200 million dollars to renovate the building and close to 90 percent of its annual operating budget. Yet whenever watchdogs demand accountability from Ellington, the school hides behind an opaque and self-perpetuating governance scheme to claim that it is not really a public school. Fine, let’s revert and recapture a public asset - the former Western High School campus — for the public. Estimates are that approximately half of Ellington’s enrollment doesn’t even live in DC, despite being subsidized on the DC taxpayers’ nickel. Northwest DC could use another public high school. Let’s rerun this public asset that has been privately misappropriated to the public for public use. Westernize Ellington again!!


As good as an idea that may be, only the very optimistic would have any hope that the building would be repurposed to a general public HS immediately after $200M in use-specific renovations were completed.


Does supporting this idea preclude opposing handing Jelleff to Maret for another ten years for peanuts? No. People can hold two nonconflicting ideas in their heads at the same time. Try it.


Maret parents bring up the Ellington possibility to attempt to deflect from the fact that they’re hogging a desirable public asset.


We can’t deny that Ellington is an outage on so many levels: corruption, likely construction kickbacks, political favoritism, crony contracts, DC residency fraud, mismanagement, no oversight, lack of accountability, use of public resource by privately-governed institution. It’s Jelleff/Maret on steroids.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2019 10:07     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If people are concerned about the theft of a public asset, they should all sign then a petition to make Duke Ellington’s site public again. Jelleff is not the biggest scam and swindle in Burleith. Ellington is the beneficiary of huge sums of public largesse - nearly 200 million dollars to renovate the building and close to 90 percent of its annual operating budget. Yet whenever watchdogs demand accountability from Ellington, the school hides behind an opaque and self-perpetuating governance scheme to claim that it is not really a public school. Fine, let’s revert and recapture a public asset - the former Western High School campus — for the public. Estimates are that approximately half of Ellington’s enrollment doesn’t even live in DC, despite being subsidized on the DC taxpayers’ nickel. Northwest DC could use another public high school. Let’s rerun this public asset that has been privately misappropriated to the public for public use. Westernize Ellington again!!


As good as an idea that may be, only the very optimistic would have any hope that the building would be repurposed to a general public HS immediately after $200M in use-specific renovations were completed.


Does supporting this idea preclude opposing handing Jelleff to Maret for another ten years for peanuts? No. People can hold two nonconflicting ideas in their heads at the same time. Try it.


Maret parents bring up the Ellington possibility to attempt to deflect from the fact that they’re hogging a desirable public asset.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 19:59     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If people are concerned about the theft of a public asset, they should all sign then a petition to make Duke Ellington’s site public again. Jelleff is not the biggest scam and swindle in Burleith. Ellington is the beneficiary of huge sums of public largesse - nearly 200 million dollars to renovate the building and close to 90 percent of its annual operating budget. Yet whenever watchdogs demand accountability from Ellington, the school hides behind an opaque and self-perpetuating governance scheme to claim that it is not really a public school. Fine, let’s revert and recapture a public asset - the former Western High School campus — for the public. Estimates are that approximately half of Ellington’s enrollment doesn’t even live in DC, despite being subsidized on the DC taxpayers’ nickel. Northwest DC could use another public high school. Let’s rerun this public asset that has been privately misappropriated to the public for public use. Westernize Ellington again!!


As good as an idea that may be, only the very optimistic would have any hope that the building would be repurposed to a general public HS immediately after $200M in use-specific renovations were completed.


We can stipulate that Ellington is basically a corrupt RICO scheme masquerading as a school. But it is separate from Jelleff.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 18:15     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

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Anonymous wrote:The Burleith Citizens Association annual meeting is tonight at Washington International School (lower campus, 36th Street between S and Reservoir).

Jack Evans will be there to give his Ward 2 report from 7:35-7:45pm. Come prepared to ask questions about Jelleff and his recent corruption findings.

Tommy Jones from DPR will be giving an update on the transfer of Ellington Field from 8:05-8:15pm.

Anyone can attend.


I hope someone goes on behalf of the 100 kids without any outdoor space to play.


I’d love to see someone from the Washington Teachers Union announce their they will voluntarily give up their free Hardy on-site parking lot. On behalf of the kids who have no place to play. Of course they would.


The kids with no outdoor play space are at Jelleff after-school, not Hardy. And as been explained here multiple times, the parking is a red herring.


Really? Then so is the notion that the poor Hardy students are being denied a place to play. The selfishness of the Hardy staff is appalling.




How about the Maret staff give up their parking and build a baseball field on their campus. Or Maret could use their resources to rent, buy or build another field - for their private school.

Seriously, you're attacking public school teachers and low-income student attending Jellef afterschool programs. (and the parking lot at Hardy isn't even the size of a soccer field) Your targets are misguided. Back off.

People just want a way for the community to access a public field in their neighborhoods without it being bought out from underneath them in a backroom deal.

We get Maret wants a field too - they could then go through the normal permitting and allocation processes with all of the other groups vying for use of fields. This was because they were going around the system and using extra $ and back-room methods to buy their way to an exclusive deal.



Hardy has a history of selfish, troublesome staff. It historically has had one of the most militant WTU groups. Notoriously it was a Hardy English teacher and WTU shop steward who led the resistance to Chancellor Rhee’s plan to diversify Hardy by adding more Upper Northwest students to the school. That was really pro-student of her. But now the Hardy community is quick to hurl around references to equity, inclusion, class and even race over a couple of hours of sports practice?! GMAFB.


And the kids at the BGCGW who get to watch the Maret students from a basement? What do you say to them?


The point about the kids after school keeps getting ignored and buried, ignored and buried in this thread. Wish someone from the Maret camp would respond to this - these kids have the strongest argument for having rights to that outdoor space. Even DC officials of ignore them and talk about the plan for Ellington field. Shameful.


There is nothing Maret can say on this point. Nothing. They don’t even try.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 18:13     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If people are concerned about the theft of a public asset, they should all sign then a petition to make Duke Ellington’s site public again. Jelleff is not the biggest scam and swindle in Burleith. Ellington is the beneficiary of huge sums of public largesse - nearly 200 million dollars to renovate the building and close to 90 percent of its annual operating budget. Yet whenever watchdogs demand accountability from Ellington, the school hides behind an opaque and self-perpetuating governance scheme to claim that it is not really a public school. Fine, let’s revert and recapture a public asset - the former Western High School campus — for the public. Estimates are that approximately half of Ellington’s enrollment doesn’t even live in DC, despite being subsidized on the DC taxpayers’ nickel. Northwest DC could use another public high school. Let’s rerun this public asset that has been privately misappropriated to the public for public use. Westernize Ellington again!!


As good as an idea that may be, only the very optimistic would have any hope that the building would be repurposed to a general public HS immediately after $200M in use-specific renovations were completed.


Does supporting this idea preclude opposing handing Jelleff to Maret for another ten years for peanuts? No. People can hold two nonconflicting ideas in their heads at the same time. Try it.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 15:03     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

Anonymous wrote:If people are concerned about the theft of a public asset, they should all sign then a petition to make Duke Ellington’s site public again. Jelleff is not the biggest scam and swindle in Burleith. Ellington is the beneficiary of huge sums of public largesse - nearly 200 million dollars to renovate the building and close to 90 percent of its annual operating budget. Yet whenever watchdogs demand accountability from Ellington, the school hides behind an opaque and self-perpetuating governance scheme to claim that it is not really a public school. Fine, let’s revert and recapture a public asset - the former Western High School campus — for the public. Estimates are that approximately half of Ellington’s enrollment doesn’t even live in DC, despite being subsidized on the DC taxpayers’ nickel. Northwest DC could use another public high school. Let’s rerun this public asset that has been privately misappropriated to the public for public use. Westernize Ellington again!!


As good as an idea that may be, only the very optimistic would have any hope that the building would be repurposed to a general public HS immediately after $200M in use-specific renovations were completed.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 15:01     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

I don’t understand why the likes of Robert White and Elissa can’t get a resolution through the Council that mandates DPR to post an inventory on their website of all public fields and the details of any associated PPPs and other restrictions on their public use. The lack of transparency - and demands for transparency- is shocking.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 14:14     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

If people are concerned about the theft of a public asset, they should all sign then a petition to make Duke Ellington’s site public again. Jelleff is not the biggest scam and swindle in Burleith. Ellington is the beneficiary of huge sums of public largesse - nearly 200 million dollars to renovate the building and close to 90 percent of its annual operating budget. Yet whenever watchdogs demand accountability from Ellington, the school hides behind an opaque and self-perpetuating governance scheme to claim that it is not really a public school. Fine, let’s revert and recapture a public asset - the former Western High School campus — for the public. Estimates are that approximately half of Ellington’s enrollment doesn’t even live in DC, despite being subsidized on the DC taxpayers’ nickel. Northwest DC could use another public high school. Let’s rerun this public asset that has been privately misappropriated to the public for public use. Westernize Ellington again!!
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 13:49     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

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Anonymous wrote:90 percent feeder certainly isn’t the same as 90 percent in boundary enrollment when several feeders have very substantial OOB populations. It makes a big difference in student preparation, academic achievement and remedial needs. But the phrase is a clever sleight of hand.


The point is the oob kids from those schools have been in the same classrooms getting the same instruction and same opportunity has the IB kids - with same range of test scores etc. they may just be - gasp - more diverse. OOB children of color from lower income areas won the spelling bee, science fair and mathletes at our WOTP hardy feeder.


Anyone who looks at the varied performance and disciplinary record of the Wilson population will realize that feeders feed a wide array of students whose academic preparation, focus, and attitude are quite disparate.


But anyone who looks at the composition of Eaton stoddert key Hyde and Mann will have a sense that that kids - oob and IB - who go through those schools have been cohorts through elementary school - in the same classes with the same teachers etc - that’s 90% of Hardy’s population. You can not use OOB as code for other things the same way... at those 5 schools, for instance, the “discipline” issues are negligible. Even with “oob” populations.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 13:47     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Burleith Citizens Association annual meeting is tonight at Washington International School (lower campus, 36th Street between S and Reservoir).

Jack Evans will be there to give his Ward 2 report from 7:35-7:45pm. Come prepared to ask questions about Jelleff and his recent corruption findings.

Tommy Jones from DPR will be giving an update on the transfer of Ellington Field from 8:05-8:15pm.

Anyone can attend.


I hope someone goes on behalf of the 100 kids without any outdoor space to play.


I’d love to see someone from the Washington Teachers Union announce their they will voluntarily give up their free Hardy on-site parking lot. On behalf of the kids who have no place to play. Of course they would.


The kids with no outdoor play space are at Jelleff after-school, not Hardy. And as been explained here multiple times, the parking is a red herring.


Really? Then so is the notion that the poor Hardy students are being denied a place to play. The selfishness of the Hardy staff is appalling.




How about the Maret staff give up their parking and build a baseball field on their campus. Or Maret could use their resources to rent, buy or build another field - for their private school.

Seriously, you're attacking public school teachers and low-income student attending Jellef afterschool programs. (and the parking lot at Hardy isn't even the size of a soccer field) Your targets are misguided. Back off.

People just want a way for the community to access a public field in their neighborhoods without it being bought out from underneath them in a backroom deal.

We get Maret wants a field too - they could then go through the normal permitting and allocation processes with all of the other groups vying for use of fields. This was because they were going around the system and using extra $ and back-room methods to buy their way to an exclusive deal.



Hardy has a history of selfish, troublesome staff. It historically has had one of the most militant WTU groups. Notoriously it was a Hardy English teacher and WTU shop steward who led the resistance to Chancellor Rhee’s plan to diversify Hardy by adding more Upper Northwest students to the school. That was really pro-student of her. But now the Hardy community is quick to hurl around references to equity, inclusion, class and even race over a couple of hours of sports practice?! GMAFB.


And the kids at the BGCGW who get to watch the Maret students from a basement? What do you say to them?


The point about the kids after school keeps getting ignored and buried, ignored and buried in this thread. Wish someone from the Maret camp would respond to this - these kids have the strongest argument for having rights to that outdoor space. Even DC officials of ignore them and talk about the plan for Ellington field. Shameful.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 13:30     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Burleith Citizens Association annual meeting is tonight at Washington International School (lower campus, 36th Street between S and Reservoir).

Jack Evans will be there to give his Ward 2 report from 7:35-7:45pm. Come prepared to ask questions about Jelleff and his recent corruption findings.

Tommy Jones from DPR will be giving an update on the transfer of Ellington Field from 8:05-8:15pm.

Anyone can attend.


I hope someone goes on behalf of the 100 kids without any outdoor space to play.


I’d love to see someone from the Washington Teachers Union announce their they will voluntarily give up their free Hardy on-site parking lot. On behalf of the kids who have no place to play. Of course they would.


The kids with no outdoor play space are at Jelleff after-school, not Hardy. And as been explained here multiple times, the parking is a red herring.


Really? Then so is the notion that the poor Hardy students are being denied a place to play. The selfishness of the Hardy staff is appalling.




How about the Maret staff give up their parking and build a baseball field on their campus. Or Maret could use their resources to rent, buy or build another field - for their private school.

Seriously, you're attacking public school teachers and low-income student attending Jellef afterschool programs. (and the parking lot at Hardy isn't even the size of a soccer field) Your targets are misguided. Back off.

People just want a way for the community to access a public field in their neighborhoods without it being bought out from underneath them in a backroom deal.

We get Maret wants a field too - they could then go through the normal permitting and allocation processes with all of the other groups vying for use of fields. This was because they were going around the system and using extra $ and back-room methods to buy their way to an exclusive deal.



Hardy has a history of selfish, troublesome staff. It historically has had one of the most militant WTU groups. Notoriously it was a Hardy English teacher and WTU shop steward who led the resistance to Chancellor Rhee’s plan to diversify Hardy by adding more Upper Northwest students to the school. That was really pro-student of her. But now the Hardy community is quick to hurl around references to equity, inclusion, class and even race over a couple of hours of sports practice?! GMAFB.


When you get to the point in the debate where the only talking point you've got left is taking random pot shots at the other side it's time to concede that you've lost.


Haven’t the Hardy social justice warriors tried to demonize Maret families as scheming, privileged racists? Shame.



No, they haven't .The snowflake Maret parents can't tell the difference between criticizing the actions of their school administration and attacking their children.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 12:40     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:90 percent feeder certainly isn’t the same as 90 percent in boundary enrollment when several feeders have very substantial OOB populations. It makes a big difference in student preparation, academic achievement and remedial needs. But the phrase is a clever sleight of hand.


The point is the oob kids from those schools have been in the same classrooms getting the same instruction and same opportunity has the IB kids - with same range of test scores etc. they may just be - gasp - more diverse. OOB children of color from lower income areas won the spelling bee, science fair and mathletes at our WOTP hardy feeder.


Anyone who looks at the varied performance and disciplinary record of the Wilson population will realize that feeders feed a wide array of students whose academic preparation, focus, and attitude are quite disparate.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 11:59     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

Anonymous wrote:90 percent feeder certainly isn’t the same as 90 percent in boundary enrollment when several feeders have very substantial OOB populations. It makes a big difference in student preparation, academic achievement and remedial needs. But the phrase is a clever sleight of hand.


The point is the oob kids from those schools have been in the same classrooms getting the same instruction and same opportunity has the IB kids - with same range of test scores etc. they may just be - gasp - more diverse. OOB children of color from lower income areas won the spelling bee, science fair and mathletes at our WOTP hardy feeder.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2019 11:18     Subject: DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Burleith Citizens Association annual meeting is tonight at Washington International School (lower campus, 36th Street between S and Reservoir).

Jack Evans will be there to give his Ward 2 report from 7:35-7:45pm. Come prepared to ask questions about Jelleff and his recent corruption findings.

Tommy Jones from DPR will be giving an update on the transfer of Ellington Field from 8:05-8:15pm.

Anyone can attend.


I hope someone goes on behalf of the 100 kids without any outdoor space to play.


I’d love to see someone from the Washington Teachers Union announce their they will voluntarily give up their free Hardy on-site parking lot. On behalf of the kids who have no place to play. Of course they would.


The kids with no outdoor play space are at Jelleff after-school, not Hardy. And as been explained here multiple times, the parking is a red herring.


Really? Then so is the notion that the poor Hardy students are being denied a place to play. The selfishness of the Hardy staff is appalling.




How about the Maret staff give up their parking and build a baseball field on their campus. Or Maret could use their resources to rent, buy or build another field - for their private school.

Seriously, you're attacking public school teachers and low-income student attending Jellef afterschool programs. (and the parking lot at Hardy isn't even the size of a soccer field) Your targets are misguided. Back off.

People just want a way for the community to access a public field in their neighborhoods without it being bought out from underneath them in a backroom deal.

We get Maret wants a field too - they could then go through the normal permitting and allocation processes with all of the other groups vying for use of fields. This was because they were going around the system and using extra $ and back-room methods to buy their way to an exclusive deal.



Hardy has a history of selfish, troublesome staff. It historically has had one of the most militant WTU groups. Notoriously it was a Hardy English teacher and WTU shop steward who led the resistance to Chancellor Rhee’s plan to diversify Hardy by adding more Upper Northwest students to the school. That was really pro-student of her. But now the Hardy community is quick to hurl around references to equity, inclusion, class and even race over a couple of hours of sports practice?! GMAFB.


When you get to the point in the debate where the only talking point you've got left is taking random pot shots at the other side it's time to concede that you've lost.


Haven’t the Hardy social justice warriors tried to demonize Maret families as scheming, privileged racists? Shame.