Anonymous wrote:OP here, she said something to me last night that's tough to swallow or interpret. Basically, she tired of being my wife. Not personally, although it's hard to not take it personally. More about being in my shadow. I am in a somewhat high profile field that gets some media attention, the usual accolades if a project goes well, etc. We met in grad school so she feels its unfair and knows it not fair and she should feel happy and she is proud, etc. but it's swallowed her identity.
Also, she's tired of being in "polite society" and making small talk with my clients, etc. Holding her tongue when we entertain people whose political views she finds repugnant.
Anyway, thanks for all the feedback.
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OP here, thanks for this and a lot of other replies. Yes, she does try to get me involved in decisions like camps and schools and the day to day and I will admit I fall short on those things more from a logistics standpoint - she will schedule a tour of a school or camp or activity but without notice to me my work schedule is packed and I can't make those things on 48 hours notice.
If I am accused of letting her handle the vast majority of the mental parenting load, I plead guilty. She has been a rock star in that regard and I tell her how much I appreciate what she's done.
We had a talk last night based on some advice given here. She said she's tired of the hampsterwheel and wants off. She also said something I found very hurtful: that my contribution doesn't feel equal to hers since most of what I do is professional and "you would have done that anyway" meaning it wasn't a sacrifice for her or the family. Again, totally wounding because it's completely untrue, I put in an enormous effort and reached a very high pinnacle of success professionally that I simply wouldn't have needed to do if I was only looking after me.
Thanks for all the feedback, it's helpful to hear perspectives that seem to match hers.
OP, just reading this now. OMG. She is out of her mind. Off the hamster wheel? There is never, ever any way to get off the Mommy hamster wheel. Getting a job just adds 40-50 hours of workload to the Mommy workload. You are a man. Most men aren't zipping up dinners, calling girl scout leader, and signing up for camps online. Most parenting falls on the mother. She can, and should however, delegate to you more "defined tasks." Maybe you can take ownership over washing dishes, emptying dishwasher, washing towels, and on weekends, driving around kids while she quarterbacks.
I think your wife is burned out. Covid burned out a lot of people. She needs a spa day, maybe a kid free getaway for few days, and therapy for support.
Buy her Mommy Burnout book too by Ziegler.
I literally had to read your post a few times. What?! My husband is very successful professionally, you bet he is zipping up those dinners and signing up for camps and packing lunches. Oh, and he does the dishes and laundry too.
Folks, I have news. It’s 2021. Your wife is not your maid, personal house manager, cook, and nanny, and secretary. If you treat her like that no doubt she is going to walk. This is like unpaid, repetitive, thankless work that is necessary to run any household and if you don’t want to step up don’t have a family.
+1
Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who thinks this is basically the story of every single person, woman or man (save for the rare group of people who relish their roles as SAHP) who decided with their spouses early in the marriage that they would scale back their careers either part time or wholly for kids and family life, then mourns the loss of an independent identity outside of the family 10-15-20 years later? I mean, it’s too predictable of an outcome it’s interesting to me that this topic seems to warrant so much discussion.
OP, just help your wife establish an identity outside of the family whether it’s a new job or hobby or passion. Hire someone for appropriate childcare and housework, I’m sure you can afford both full time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
OP here, thanks for this and a lot of other replies. Yes, she does try to get me involved in decisions like camps and schools and the day to day and I will admit I fall short on those things more from a logistics standpoint - she will schedule a tour of a school or camp or activity but without notice to me my work schedule is packed and I can't make those things on 48 hours notice.
If I am accused of letting her handle the vast majority of the mental parenting load, I plead guilty. She has been a rock star in that regard and I tell her how much I appreciate what she's done.
We had a talk last night based on some advice given here. She said she's tired of the hampsterwheel and wants off. She also said something I found very hurtful: that my contribution doesn't feel equal to hers since most of what I do is professional and "you would have done that anyway" meaning it wasn't a sacrifice for her or the family. Again, totally wounding because it's completely untrue, I put in an enormous effort and reached a very high pinnacle of success professionally that I simply wouldn't have needed to do if I was only looking after me.
Thanks for all the feedback, it's helpful to hear perspectives that seem to match hers.
OP, just reading this now. OMG. She is out of her mind. Off the hamster wheel? There is never, ever any way to get off the Mommy hamster wheel. Getting a job just adds 40-50 hours of workload to the Mommy workload. You are a man. Most men aren't zipping up dinners, calling girl scout leader, and signing up for camps online. Most parenting falls on the mother. She can, and should however, delegate to you more "defined tasks." Maybe you can take ownership over washing dishes, emptying dishwasher, washing towels, and on weekends, driving around kids while she quarterbacks.
I think your wife is burned out. Covid burned out a lot of people. She needs a spa day, maybe a kid free getaway for few days, and therapy for support.
Buy her Mommy Burnout book too by Ziegler.
I literally had to read your post a few times. What?! My husband is very successful professionally, you bet he is zipping up those dinners and signing up for camps and packing lunches. Oh, and he does the dishes and laundry too.
Folks, I have news. It’s 2021. Your wife is not your maid, personal house manager, cook, and nanny, and secretary. If you treat her like that no doubt she is going to walk. This is like unpaid, repetitive, thankless work that is necessary to run any household and if you don’t want to step up don’t have a family.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
OP here, thanks for this and a lot of other replies. Yes, she does try to get me involved in decisions like camps and schools and the day to day and I will admit I fall short on those things more from a logistics standpoint - she will schedule a tour of a school or camp or activity but without notice to me my work schedule is packed and I can't make those things on 48 hours notice.
If I am accused of letting her handle the vast majority of the mental parenting load, I plead guilty. She has been a rock star in that regard and I tell her how much I appreciate what she's done.
We had a talk last night based on some advice given here. She said she's tired of the hampsterwheel and wants off. She also said something I found very hurtful: that my contribution doesn't feel equal to hers since most of what I do is professional and "you would have done that anyway" meaning it wasn't a sacrifice for her or the family. Again, totally wounding because it's completely untrue, I put in an enormous effort and reached a very high pinnacle of success professionally that I simply wouldn't have needed to do if I was only looking after me.
Thanks for all the feedback, it's helpful to hear perspectives that seem to match hers.
OP, just reading this now. OMG. She is out of her mind. Off the hamster wheel? There is never, ever any way to get off the Mommy hamster wheel. Getting a job just adds 40-50 hours of workload to the Mommy workload. You are a man. Most men aren't zipping up dinners, calling girl scout leader, and signing up for camps online. Most parenting falls on the mother. She can, and should however, delegate to you more "defined tasks." Maybe you can take ownership over washing dishes, emptying dishwasher, washing towels, and on weekends, driving around kids while she quarterbacks.
I think your wife is burned out. Covid burned out a lot of people. She needs a spa day, maybe a kid free getaway for few days, and therapy for support.
Buy her Mommy Burnout book too by Ziegler.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here, she said something to me last night that's tough to swallow or interpret. Basically, she tired of being my wife. Not personally, although it's hard to not take it personally. More about being in my shadow. I am in a somewhat high profile field that gets some media attention, the usual accolades if a project goes well, etc. We met in grad school so she feels its unfair and knows it not fair and she should feel happy and she is proud, etc. but it's swallowed her identity.
Also, she's tired of being in "polite society" and making small talk with my clients, etc. Holding her tongue when we entertain people whose political views she finds repugnant.
Anyway, thanks for all the feedback.
My friend has to do that too. Sometimes she skips but sometimes I go with her. I’m a good wing woman, I can get her away from the repugnant (like there is somebody I need you to meet). I have fun with it.
I have experience with trust fund baby types. It’s not easy if that’s not your upbringing.
I'm sure some people have the personality type to be able to deal with that kind of thing and flourish... but it sounds absolutely awful to me. It's like "trophy wife life" and it's easy to say they're "spoiled" I could imagine how soul sucking that could be. I know I couldn't do it.
It's exhausting....if I hear one more dude at a political event smile and say, "hey thanks for coming out" I might have to kill someone. (I am in perimenopause, and the struggle is real).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here, she said something to me last night that's tough to swallow or interpret. Basically, she tired of being my wife. Not personally, although it's hard to not take it personally. More about being in my shadow. I am in a somewhat high profile field that gets some media attention, the usual accolades if a project goes well, etc. We met in grad school so she feels its unfair and knows it not fair and she should feel happy and she is proud, etc. but it's swallowed her identity.
Also, she's tired of being in "polite society" and making small talk with my clients, etc. Holding her tongue when we entertain people whose political views she finds repugnant.
Anyway, thanks for all the feedback.
My friend has to do that too. Sometimes she skips but sometimes I go with her. I’m a good wing woman, I can get her away from the repugnant (like there is somebody I need you to meet). I have fun with it.
I have experience with trust fund baby types. It’s not easy if that’s not your upbringing.
I'm sure some people have the personality type to be able to deal with that kind of thing and flourish... but it sounds absolutely awful to me. It's like "trophy wife life" and it's easy to say they're "spoiled" I could imagine how soul sucking that could be. I know I couldn't do it.
It's exhausting....if I hear one more dude at a political event smile and say, "hey thanks for coming out" I might have to kill someone. (I am in perimenopause, and the struggle is real).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here, she said something to me last night that's tough to swallow or interpret. Basically, she tired of being my wife. Not personally, although it's hard to not take it personally. More about being in my shadow. I am in a somewhat high profile field that gets some media attention, the usual accolades if a project goes well, etc. We met in grad school so she feels its unfair and knows it not fair and she should feel happy and she is proud, etc. but it's swallowed her identity.
Also, she's tired of being in "polite society" and making small talk with my clients, etc. Holding her tongue when we entertain people whose political views she finds repugnant.
Anyway, thanks for all the feedback.
My friend has to do that too. Sometimes she skips but sometimes I go with her. I’m a good wing woman, I can get her away from the repugnant (like there is somebody I need you to meet). I have fun with it.
I have experience with trust fund baby types. It’s not easy if that’s not your upbringing.
Anonymous wrote:OP here, she said something to me last night that's tough to swallow or interpret. Basically, she tired of being my wife. Not personally, although it's hard to not take it personally. More about being in my shadow. I am in a somewhat high profile field that gets some media attention, the usual accolades if a project goes well, etc. We met in grad school so she feels its unfair and knows it not fair and she should feel happy and she is proud, etc. but it's swallowed her identity.
Also, she's tired of being in "polite society" and making small talk with my clients, etc. Holding her tongue when we entertain people whose political views she finds repugnant.
Anyway, thanks for all the feedback.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The fact that he even posted here with this tells me he is not as bad of a dh/dad/person as he is being painted.
That said, I certainly identify with his wife.
I don’t know any men who post here. There’s prob a pool of the same five.
His post says nothing about the children or concerns for them. All he said was they exist and his wife takes care of it.
He never said she 100% takes care of the kids. She picks the camps without his help. That was the only thing said that he does not help with.
I don't get the sock puppet role on DCUM. Are you OP clarifying little nits?
We don't know WTF he does at home or for the kids. He never mentions anything he does or runs or manages on the homefront. In fact, he so consistently does not, it is likely very very little.