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Anonymous wrote:Well Arkansas is not only re opening their COV.iD wards in their hospitals they are having to expand them.

For those thinking they are safe from Delta because they had COVID look at LA. 500 new cases yesterday among the unvaccinated population even though it was estimated that 1 in 3 people in LA already had COV.iD.

Yeah, people need to get vaccinated.

Anonymous wrote:Well Arkansas is not only re opening their COV.iD wards in their hospitals they are having to expand them.

For those thinking they are safe from Delta because they had COVID look at LA. 500 new cases yesterday among the unvaccinated population even though it was estimated that 1 in 3 people in LA already had COV.iD.

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Anonymous wrote:Delta variant is much less deadly, so I am looking forward to it taking over the previous strains in US. Look up the data from UK government.

+1. It spreads faster, but is much less deadly. Zero people to date have died from the Delta variant in the US.

Which is why the delta gloom and doom is just propaganda baloney. Oh no! The sniffles!

WRONG. Delta is at least as deadly as previous variants, and MAY result in more severe illness. The reason why UK numbers are not as high is because they have nationalized health care and have made sure that the elderly and the most vulnerable are vaccinated.

GET VACCINATED and you won't have to worry about it.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00356-X/fulltext

Our findings (table) show consistent and rational evidence that patients infected with the B.1.1.7 variant developed more serious disease: they had greater clinical severity (eg, higher National Early Warning Score value, lower respiratory rate oxygenation index) and greater requirement for supplemental oxygen and mechanical ventilation, they more often received approved treatments for SARS-CoV-2 infection (eg, dexamethasone, remdesivir, and tocilizumab), and they had more serious clinical outcomes (ie, higher 28-day mortality, WHO clinical progression scale score). Although our results show a tendency towards severe disease with B.1.1.7 infection, it is likely that our study was underpowered as statistical significance was seen only for patients requiring dexamethasone. Nevertheless, our data echo the findings of other, larger studies. For example, Challen and colleagues,2 who studied a younger population than described here or studied by Frampton and colleagues, with likely less comorbidity, found a 64% increase in 28-day mortality following community infection with the B.1.1.7 variant (control group, 0·26%; B.1.1.7 variant group, 0·41%). Similarly, Davies and colleagues3 concluded that infections with the B.1.1.7 variant were associated with a hazard of death of 61% (95% CI 42–82) higher than with pre-existing variants.

B.1.1.7 isn't Delta.

Correct, it's the U.K. variant. Which was a big non-event here in the U.S.

I mean, B.1.1.7 was the dominant strain for the winter surge. It was only a "non-event" because the US was used to it (over it) at that point, but A LOT of people got sick and died.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure it’s here, we just do a very poor job at sequencing.

Here you go, you can even filter by region! https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

It's a nearly a month out of date though. In the last week I've heard B.1.617.2 (Delta) makes up about 25% of current cases in the US.

Click nowcast and it shows data collected from two weeks ago. Delta is already over 50% of cases in middle of the US.

It’s too soon to blanket say delta isn’t as deadly. First you have to account for the lag between getting sick and then dying. But also you have to separate vaccinated folks from unvaccinated folks. Remember, vaccination doesn’t 100% protect against getting Covid, but it does prevent severe illness and death.

Agreed. Too soon to tell. But because it is the biggest question on everybody's mind, there will be a relentless stream of clickbait claiming to have the answer. I will personally hold off on having an opinion for two weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:Delta variant is much less deadly, so I am looking forward to it taking over the previous strains in US. Look up the data from UK government.

+1. It spreads faster, but is much less deadly. Zero people to date have died from the Delta variant in the US.

Which is why the delta gloom and doom is just propaganda baloney. Oh no! The sniffles!

WRONG. Delta is at least as deadly as previous variants, and MAY result in more severe illness. The reason why UK numbers are not as high is because they have nationalized health care and have made sure that the elderly and the most vulnerable are vaccinated.

GET VACCINATED and you won't have to worry about it.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00356-X/fulltext

Our findings (table) show consistent and rational evidence that patients infected with the B.1.1.7 variant developed more serious disease: they had greater clinical severity (eg, higher National Early Warning Score value, lower respiratory rate oxygenation index) and greater requirement for supplemental oxygen and mechanical ventilation, they more often received approved treatments for SARS-CoV-2 infection (eg, dexamethasone, remdesivir, and tocilizumab), and they had more serious clinical outcomes (ie, higher 28-day mortality, WHO clinical progression scale score). Although our results show a tendency towards severe disease with B.1.1.7 infection, it is likely that our study was underpowered as statistical significance was seen only for patients requiring dexamethasone. Nevertheless, our data echo the findings of other, larger studies. For example, Challen and colleagues,2 who studied a younger population than described here or studied by Frampton and colleagues, with likely less comorbidity, found a 64% increase in 28-day mortality following community infection with the B.1.1.7 variant (control group, 0·26%; B.1.1.7 variant group, 0·41%). Similarly, Davies and colleagues3 concluded that infections with the B.1.1.7 variant were associated with a hazard of death of 61% (95% CI 42–82) higher than with pre-existing variants.

B.1.1.7 isn't Delta.

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Anonymous wrote:Delta variant is much less deadly, so I am looking forward to it taking over the previous strains in US. Look up the data from UK government.

+1. It spreads faster, but is much less deadly. Zero people to date have died from the Delta variant in the US.

Which is why the delta gloom and doom is just propaganda baloney. Oh no! The sniffles!

I don't know, that's a bit of a strawman, no? Even setting aside the risk of death, whatever it might be, there may be long term effects and complications associated with infection. Not to mention the possibility for future variants to develop that have more break-through potential.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure it’s here, we just do a very poor job at sequencing.

Here you go, you can even filter by region! https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

It's a nearly a month out of date though. In the last week I've heard B.1.617.2 (Delta) makes up about 25% of current cases in the US.

Click nowcast and it shows data collected from two weeks ago. Delta is already over 50% of cases in middle of the US.

It’s too soon to blanket say delta isn’t as deadly. First you have to account for the lag between getting sick and then dying. But also you have to separate vaccinated folks from unvaccinated folks. Remember, vaccination doesn’t 100% protect against getting Covid, but it does prevent severe illness and death.

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Anonymous wrote:Delta variant is much less deadly, so I am looking forward to it taking over the previous strains in US. Look up the data from UK government.

+1. It spreads faster, but is much less deadly. Zero people to date have died from the Delta variant in the US.

Which is why the delta gloom and doom is just propaganda baloney. Oh no! The sniffles!

WRONG. Delta is at least as deadly as previous variants, and MAY result in more severe illness. The reason why UK numbers are not as high is because they have nationalized health care and have made sure that the elderly and the most vulnerable are vaccinated.

GET VACCINATED and you won't have to worry about it.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00356-X/fulltext

Our findings (table) show consistent and rational evidence that patients infected with the B.1.1.7 variant developed more serious disease: they had greater clinical severity (eg, higher National Early Warning Score value, lower respiratory rate oxygenation index) and greater requirement for supplemental oxygen and mechanical ventilation, they more often received approved treatments for SARS-CoV-2 infection (eg, dexamethasone, remdesivir, and tocilizumab), and they had more serious clinical outcomes (ie, higher 28-day mortality, WHO clinical progression scale score). Although our results show a tendency towards severe disease with B.1.1.7 infection, it is likely that our study was underpowered as statistical significance was seen only for patients requiring dexamethasone. Nevertheless, our data echo the findings of other, larger studies. For example, Challen and colleagues,2 who studied a younger population than described here or studied by Frampton and colleagues, with likely less comorbidity, found a 64% increase in 28-day mortality following community infection with the B.1.1.7 variant (control group, 0·26%; B.1.1.7 variant group, 0·41%). Similarly, Davies and colleagues3 concluded that infections with the B.1.1.7 variant were associated with a hazard of death of 61% (95% CI 42–82) higher than with pre-existing variants.

B.1.1.7 isn't Delta.

Correct, it's the U.K. variant. Which was a big non-event here in the U.S.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delta variant is much less deadly, so I am looking forward to it taking over the previous strains in US. Look up the data from UK government.

+1. It spreads faster, but is much less deadly. Zero people to date have died from the Delta variant in the US.

Which is why the delta gloom and doom is just propaganda baloney. Oh no! The sniffles!

WRONG. Delta is at least as deadly as previous variants, and MAY result in more severe illness. The reason why UK numbers are not as high is because they have nationalized health care and have made sure that the elderly and the most vulnerable are vaccinated.

GET VACCINATED and you won't have to worry about it.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00356-X/fulltext

Our findings (table) show consistent and rational evidence that patients infected with the B.1.1.7 variant developed more serious disease: they had greater clinical severity (eg, higher National Early Warning Score value, lower respiratory rate oxygenation index) and greater requirement for supplemental oxygen and mechanical ventilation, they more often received approved treatments for SARS-CoV-2 infection (eg, dexamethasone, remdesivir, and tocilizumab), and they had more serious clinical outcomes (ie, higher 28-day mortality, WHO clinical progression scale score). Although our results show a tendency towards severe disease with B.1.1.7 infection, it is likely that our study was underpowered as statistical significance was seen only for patients requiring dexamethasone. Nevertheless, our data echo the findings of other, larger studies. For example, Challen and colleagues,2 who studied a younger population than described here or studied by Frampton and colleagues, with likely less comorbidity, found a 64% increase in 28-day mortality following community infection with the B.1.1.7 variant (control group, 0·26%; B.1.1.7 variant group, 0·41%). Similarly, Davies and colleagues3 concluded that infections with the B.1.1.7 variant were associated with a hazard of death of 61% (95% CI 42–82) higher than with pre-existing variants.

B.1.1.7 isn't Delta.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delta variant is much less deadly, so I am looking forward to it taking over the previous strains in US. Look up the data from UK government.

+1. It spreads faster, but is much less deadly. Zero people to date have died from the Delta variant in the US.

Which is why the delta gloom and doom is just propaganda baloney. Oh no! The sniffles!

WRONG. Delta is at least as deadly as previous variants, and MAY result in more severe illness. The reason why UK numbers are not as high is because they have nationalized health care and have made sure that the elderly and the most vulnerable are vaccinated.

GET VACCINATED and you won't have to worry about it.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00356-X/fulltext

Our findings (table) show consistent and rational evidence that patients infected with the B.1.1.7 variant developed more serious disease: they had greater clinical severity (eg, higher National Early Warning Score value, lower respiratory rate oxygenation index) and greater requirement for supplemental oxygen and mechanical ventilation, they more often received approved treatments for SARS-CoV-2 infection (eg, dexamethasone, remdesivir, and tocilizumab), and they had more serious clinical outcomes (ie, higher 28-day mortality, WHO clinical progression scale score). Although our results show a tendency towards severe disease with B.1.1.7 infection, it is likely that our study was underpowered as statistical significance was seen only for patients requiring dexamethasone. Nevertheless, our data echo the findings of other, larger studies. For example, Challen and colleagues,2 who studied a younger population than described here or studied by Frampton and colleagues, with likely less comorbidity, found a 64% increase in 28-day mortality following community infection with the B.1.1.7 variant (control group, 0·26%; B.1.1.7 variant group, 0·41%). Similarly, Davies and colleagues3 concluded that infections with the B.1.1.7 variant were associated with a hazard of death of 61% (95% CI 42–82) higher than with pre-existing variants.

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Anonymous wrote:Delta variant is much less deadly, so I am looking forward to it taking over the previous strains in US. Look up the data from UK government.

+1. It spreads faster, but is much less deadly. Zero people to date have died from the Delta variant in the US.

Which is why the delta gloom and doom is just propaganda baloney. Oh no! The sniffles!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delta variant is much less deadly, so I am looking forward to it taking over the previous strains in US. Look up the data from UK government.

+1. It spreads faster, but is much less deadly. Zero people to date have died from the Delta variant in the US.

Which is why the delta gloom and doom is just propaganda baloney. Oh no! The sniffles!

I don't know, that's a bit of a strawman, no? Even setting aside the risk of death, whatever it might be, there may be long term effects and complications associated with infection. Not to mention the possibility for future variants to develop that have more break-through potential.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Delta variant is much less deadly, so I am looking forward to it taking over the previous strains in US. Look up the data from UK government.

+1. It spreads faster, but is much less deadly. Zero people to date have died from the Delta variant in the US.