Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 17:05     Subject: Euro Championships

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Anonymous wrote:I love the “don’t criticize three players to miss a penalty”. They’re professionals. Not criticizing them is the bigotry of low expectations


There is criticizing and there's heaping racist abuse. The latter is disgusting and needs to be better monitored on social media platforms.

With that said, three missed PKs didn't lose the game. What's worse, even if 19 year old Saka had made his penalty, England still would not have been guaranteed a win. They would have continued with penalties.

The real failure was England's failure to score a goal in the 120 plus minutes of play before penalties. Criticize that.


A lot of people in the know are criticizing the coach's selection of kickers.

Putting a 19-year old, novice of the big matches in the most critical position since the 1960s was a daft move.

Experts agree, England was out-coached. They also question they way the Coach jerked around Rashford.


Poor coaching.

Nobody is putting a novice on the line in the highest level game in decades. That was idiotic.

Dealing with pressure and control in big matches is learned with experience. AND COME ON it wasn't even the worst penalty kick taken that day---nowhere near as bad as that awful stutter dance and complete flub.

And the guy that WAITED AN ETERNITY TO kick...psyched himself out. Basic teaching of penalty kicking 101 in the little leagues was not there.


My siblings and I were just talking about how painful it is to be on a youth soccer sidelines in 2021. Parents lose their absolute sh*t for any amount of physicality...a little jersey tug, arms out, etc. American soccer players are taught to play like wimps. It is a CONTACT sport.


When I was a parent new to the sport, I had a tendency to lose my mind. My problem then (and still a little bit) is that the type of physical contact that's permitted usually isn't describe explicitly enough. If my kids are allowed to extend an arm to push the other guy off, don't tell me that's not allowed. If grabbing jerseys is permitted, make that clear. Eventually, I took to telling my kids, "if the ref doesn't call it, it's legal. Whatever the kids are doing to you, do it back only a little harder until they call something." Seemed like the only way to ensure a level playing field.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 17:01     Subject: Euro Championships

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Anonymous wrote:Chiellini should have received a red card for the horse collar tackle of Saka. It is either serious foul play or violent conduct under FIFA rules and just as likely to seriously injure someone as a two-footed tackle. Totally intended to hurt the kid and it is not even arguable it had anything to do with going after the ball or a legit tackle. Bad non-call, and even worse when it is grizzled veteran v teenager. Fair play is fair play and FIFA ought to demand better. This bad conduct has no part in the game.

https://youtu.be/1zW0Cs-LtCc


He wanted it more.

If you think that was awful, you are a complete novice to International high-level futbol.

The amount of physicality there is in high-level soccer has always been there and this wasn't even that aggregious as it was taking out a knee or ankle that would cause a career-wrecking injury. The shirt tugging and stuff is par for the course.

Americans are so naive and think it's a pretty little game.

We were taught to play physical back in the 70s/80s, I was taken down by my ponytail in several games, clawed with nails, jerseys ripped from tugging....AND I WAS A GIRL.

Chiellini wanted to WIN. It was a completely psychological tactic. Did you happen to see the way the Denmark players terrorized Harry Kane...even when he didn't have the ball he was two-handed pushed???

The ones that want it more are the ones that win.


Watch the Maradona special. The Italian Serie A league is one of the roughest in the World. When he went to Naples he was completely taken aback.


I love watching LigaMX games. Those guys are rough & tumble!
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 16:36     Subject: Euro Championships

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the “don’t criticize three players to miss a penalty”. They’re professionals. Not criticizing them is the bigotry of low expectations


There is criticizing and there's heaping racist abuse. The latter is disgusting and needs to be better monitored on social media platforms.

With that said, three missed PKs didn't lose the game. What's worse, even if 19 year old Saka had made his penalty, England still would not have been guaranteed a win. They would have continued with penalties.

The real failure was England's failure to score a goal in the 120 plus minutes of play before penalties. Criticize that.


A lot of people in the know are criticizing the coach's selection of kickers.

Putting a 19-year old, novice of the big matches in the most critical position since the 1960s was a daft move.

Experts agree, England was out-coached. They also question they way the Coach jerked around Rashford.


Poor coaching.

Nobody is putting a novice on the line in the highest level game in decades. That was idiotic.

Dealing with pressure and control in big matches is learned with experience. AND COME ON it wasn't even the worst penalty kick taken that day---nowhere near as bad as that awful stutter dance and complete flub.

And the guy that WAITED AN ETERNITY TO kick...psyched himself out. Basic teaching of penalty kicking 101 in the little leagues was not there.


My siblings and I were just talking about how painful it is to be on a youth soccer sidelines in 2021. Parents lose their absolute sh*t for any amount of physicality...a little jersey tug, arms out, etc. American soccer players are taught to play like wimps. It is a CONTACT sport.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 16:27     Subject: Euro Championships

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the “don’t criticize three players to miss a penalty”. They’re professionals. Not criticizing them is the bigotry of low expectations


There is criticizing and there's heaping racist abuse. The latter is disgusting and needs to be better monitored on social media platforms.

With that said, three missed PKs didn't lose the game. What's worse, even if 19 year old Saka had made his penalty, England still would not have been guaranteed a win. They would have continued with penalties.

The real failure was England's failure to score a goal in the 120 plus minutes of play before penalties. Criticize that.


A lot of people in the know are criticizing the coach's selection of kickers.

Putting a 19-year old, novice of the big matches in the most critical position since the 1960s was a daft move.

Experts agree, England was out-coached. They also question they way the Coach jerked around Rashford.


Poor coaching.

Nobody is putting a novice on the line in the highest level game in decades. That was idiotic.

Dealing with pressure and control in big matches is learned with experience. AND COME ON it wasn't even the worst penalty kick taken that day---nowhere near as bad as that awful stutter dance and complete flub.

And the guy that WAITED AN ETERNITY TO kick...psyched himself out. Basic teaching of penalty kicking 101 in the little leagues was not there.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 16:24     Subject: Euro Championships

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Chiellini should have received a red card for the horse collar tackle of Saka. It is either serious foul play or violent conduct under FIFA rules and just as likely to seriously injure someone as a two-footed tackle. Totally intended to hurt the kid and it is not even arguable it had anything to do with going after the ball or a legit tackle. Bad non-call, and even worse when it is grizzled veteran v teenager. Fair play is fair play and FIFA ought to demand better. This bad conduct has no part in the game.

https://youtu.be/1zW0Cs-LtCc


He wanted it more.

If you think that was awful, you are a complete novice to International high-level futbol.

The amount of physicality there is in high-level soccer has always been there and this wasn't even that aggregious as it was taking out a knee or ankle that would cause a career-wrecking injury. The shirt tugging and stuff is par for the course.

Americans are so naive and think it's a pretty little game.

We were taught to play physical back in the 70s/80s, I was taken down by my ponytail in several games, clawed with nails, jerseys ripped from tugging....AND I WAS A GIRL.

Chiellini wanted to WIN. It was a completely psychological tactic. Did you happen to see the way the Denmark players terrorized Harry Kane...even when he didn't have the ball he was two-handed pushed???

The ones that want it more are the ones that win.


Watch the Maradona special. The Italian Serie A league is one of the roughest in the World. When he went to Naples he was completely taken aback.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 16:22     Subject: Euro Championships

Anonymous wrote:Chiellini should have received a red card for the horse collar tackle of Saka. It is either serious foul play or violent conduct under FIFA rules and just as likely to seriously injure someone as a two-footed tackle. Totally intended to hurt the kid and it is not even arguable it had anything to do with going after the ball or a legit tackle. Bad non-call, and even worse when it is grizzled veteran v teenager. Fair play is fair play and FIFA ought to demand better. This bad conduct has no part in the game.

https://youtu.be/1zW0Cs-LtCc


He wanted it more.

If you think that was awful, you are a complete novice to International high-level futbol.

The amount of physicality there is in high-level soccer has always been there and this wasn't even that aggregious as it was taking out a knee or ankle that would cause a career-wrecking injury. The shirt tugging and stuff is par for the course.

Americans are so naive and think it's a pretty little game.

We were taught to play physical back in the 70s/80s, I was taken down by my ponytail in several games, clawed with nails, jerseys ripped from tugging....AND I WAS A GIRL.

Chiellini wanted to WIN. It was a completely psychological tactic. Did you happen to see the way the Denmark players terrorized Harry Kane...even when he didn't have the ball he was two-handed pushed???

The ones that want it more are the ones that win.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 16:19     Subject: Euro Championships

Why no one comments on goalkeepers performance? One of them saved PKs while the other one failed?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 16:01     Subject: Re:Euro Championships

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Bigotry of low expectations


Oh guess you have missed the news. All the players of color have decided to sit out the World Cup qualifiers. This should make people like you very happy.

If the teams just got rid of them, the issue of racial tension would go away on its own.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 15:46     Subject: Re:Euro Championships

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Oh guess you have missed the news. All the players of color have decided to sit out the World Cup qualifiers. This should make people like you very happy.
Do yo have a link for this?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 15:43     Subject: Re:Euro Championships

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Bigotry of low expectations


Oh guess you have missed the news. All the players of color have decided to sit out the World Cup qualifiers. This should make people like you very happy.


Welp. They were the only reason England got that far in the first place in the Euro 2020 matches. Guess they'll be waiting around another 50 years for a chance.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 15:41     Subject: Euro Championships

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Chiellini should have received a red card for the horse collar tackle of Saka. It is either serious foul play or violent conduct under FIFA rules and just as likely to seriously injure someone as a two-footed tackle. Totally intended to hurt the kid and it is not even arguable it had anything to do with going after the ball or a legit tackle. Bad non-call, and even worse when it is grizzled veteran v teenager. Fair play is fair play and FIFA ought to demand better. This bad conduct has no part in the game.

https://youtu.be/1zW0Cs-LtCc


Stop calling Saka a kid; he’s a professional. Bigotry of low expectations


He's only 19. Its amazing he's leading a national team at a age so young but don't underestimate the weight of the team's expectations on him and the U.K.'s racist response rearing its ugly head.

I hope he can keep his head high and ignore the naysayers.



He’s not leading if he’s too nervous to take a penalty. He’s a young man, not kid, and he’s a professional.


He was not the only one to miss. England should have tried to win in time. Kicks from the mark are like flipping a coin. Either team has an equal chance. Here are the numbers

At time of writing (January 6, 2021), 1,894 out of 2,278 penalties awarded in Premier League history have been scored, equating to a success rate of 83.14 per cent. Meanwhile, only 90 (3.95 per cent) have missed the target, with the remaining 294 (12.91 per cent) saved by the opposition goalkeeper

https://sqaf.club/what-percentage-of-penalties-are-scored-stats/
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 15:35     Subject: Euro Championships

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the “don’t criticize three players to miss a penalty”. They’re professionals. Not criticizing them is the bigotry of low expectations


There is criticizing and there's heaping racist abuse. The latter is disgusting and needs to be better monitored on social media platforms.

With that said, three missed PKs didn't lose the game. What's worse, even if 19 year old Saka had made his penalty, England still would not have been guaranteed a win. They would have continued with penalties.

The real failure was England's failure to score a goal in the 120 plus minutes of play before penalties. Criticize that.


They are literally saying “oh but they were nervous be proud of them for evening trying”. No.

THREE MISSED PENALTIES. Criticize cause they were poor penalties. Poor decision to give it to them over Grealish, Stones, Sterling. AND. Poor penalty.


LOL I guess trying to sit on a one goal lead for 65 minutes can’t be criticized?


100% yes. Because you can do both. Failures at the professional level bring criticism.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 15:22     Subject: Re:Euro Championships

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Bigotry of low expectations


Oh guess you have missed the news. All the players of color have decided to sit out the World Cup qualifiers. This should make people like you very happy.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 15:20     Subject: Euro Championships

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love the “don’t criticize three players to miss a penalty”. They’re professionals. Not criticizing them is the bigotry of low expectations


There is criticizing and there's heaping racist abuse. The latter is disgusting and needs to be better monitored on social media platforms.

With that said, three missed PKs didn't lose the game. What's worse, even if 19 year old Saka had made his penalty, England still would not have been guaranteed a win. They would have continued with penalties.

The real failure was England's failure to score a goal in the 120 plus minutes of play before penalties. Criticize that.


They are literally saying “oh but they were nervous be proud of them for evening trying”. No.

THREE MISSED PENALTIES. Criticize cause they were poor penalties. Poor decision to give it to them over Grealish, Stones, Sterling. AND. Poor penalty.


LOL I guess trying to sit on a one goal lead for 65 minutes can’t be criticized?
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2021 15:10     Subject: Re:Euro Championships

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Bigotry of low expectations