Anonymous
04/28/2021 11:48
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:If you think perfume is just worn by old people, step into a Sephora and notice that entire wall that's dedicated to perfumes. Their demographic isn't exactly senior citizens.
I think people just believe that very few people wear perfume because most of us perfume wearers don't abuse it. I put on a little bit on my pulse points, and you can only smell my perfume if you get within hugging distance. The few people who spray themselves down with so much fragrance that you can smell them from 20 feet away give the rest of us a bad name.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 11:46
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:
Sorry, I will keep wearing a minuscule dab of J'Adore, or Poison, my two favorite perfumes. I have a very sensitive sense of smell and a tiny dab goes a very long way. Feel free to tell me that you can't stand the way I smell. I won't be offended, but I will keep doing something non-lethal that makes me happy.
Also, my son has anaphylactic allergies to peanuts and tree nuts, and I do not appreciate that people like you demand that others cater to their sensitivities when others need to carry Epipens for their lethal allergies and navigate potentially deadly situations, often daily, without making a big deal out of it. As a general rule, I've noticed that the people with the biggest burdens in life don't make the most noise.
It isn’t a contest between sensitivities. Just because people don’t die from your perfume doesn’t make it less obnoxious. It is the equivalent to farting everywhere you go. Nobody wants to smell your presence.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 11:41
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Do you not understand that not liking the smell isn't the issue?
My ds ended up on oxygen more than once because of people's scented products. All we had to do was walk past someone. An Epipen wouldn't have changed his reaction.
People tend to pay attention to nut allergies. Allergies to perfumes etc get scoffed at from people like you.
There are perfumes all around you AT ALL TIMES when you are out and about. Detergent, soap, skincare, cleaning products, hotel & store branding efforts...the list goes on.
Do you never go anywhere? Never go on vacation? Never shop in a store? How do you avoid perfumes?
NP.
It is true fragrances are everywhere and it is also true that they have harmful effects.
First paragraph of the paper linked below:
Contrary to popular belief, most exposure to hazardous pollutants that affect health and well-being occurs indoors (Ott et al., 2007, Brown, 2007). A primary source of these indoor pollutants and exposures is common fragranced consumer products, such as air fresheners, cleaning products, laundry supplies, and personal care products (Cheng et al., 2015, Nazaroff and Weschler, 2004, Steinemann et al., 2011).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5122698/
https://www.noaa.gov/news/those-scented-products-you-love-noaa-study-finds-they-can-cause-air-pollution
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6377/760
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/23/fragrance-perfume-personal-cleaning-products-health-issues
I posted above about a study suggesting that reactions to fragrances might be reduced through CBT and not one person has commented. It's much better to make demands and disparage other people than to consider treatments that might reduce your symptoms caused by fragrance exposure. If people are having life threatening reactions by walking by a person wearing perfume, there is a mental component that needs to be addressed.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 11:36
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Do you not understand that not liking the smell isn't the issue?
My ds ended up on oxygen more than once because of people's scented products. All we had to do was walk past someone. An Epipen wouldn't have changed his reaction.
People tend to pay attention to nut allergies. Allergies to perfumes etc get scoffed at from people like you.
There are perfumes all around you AT ALL TIMES when you are out and about. Detergent, soap, skincare, cleaning products, hotel & store branding efforts...the list goes on.
Do you never go anywhere? Never go on vacation? Never shop in a store? How do you avoid perfumes?
NP.
It is true fragrances are everywhere and it is also true that they have harmful effects.
First paragraph of the paper linked below:
Contrary to popular belief, most exposure to hazardous pollutants that affect health and well-being occurs indoors (Ott et al., 2007, Brown, 2007). A primary source of these indoor pollutants and exposures is common fragranced consumer products, such as air fresheners, cleaning products, laundry supplies, and personal care products (Cheng et al., 2015, Nazaroff and Weschler, 2004, Steinemann et al., 2011).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5122698/
https://www.noaa.gov/news/those-scented-products-you-love-noaa-study-finds-they-can-cause-air-pollution
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6377/760
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/23/fragrance-perfume-personal-cleaning-products-health-issues
But now you’re changing the subject. We’re talking about personal perfumes (and possibly laundry detergents). I’m one of the perfume supporters and I noted about four pages ago that functional frags seem a thousand times stronger than they were 10 or 20 years ago. But that’s not what this thread is about. If we’re just going to start randomly talking about chemicals that stink, let’s talk about lawn spray and essential oils.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 11:33
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Perfume wearers aren't inconsiderate and they aren't unfashionable, at least not more than anyone else. But they do tend to really, really stink.
Oh,snap! The insult of the century.
Deal with it, Ashleigh.
Oh I don't care if you stink. That's your problem. I don't have allergies or anything like that. I don't understand why adults deliberately choose to really, really stink, but not my business.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 11:29
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Do you not understand that not liking the smell isn't the issue?
My ds ended up on oxygen more than once because of people's scented products. All we had to do was walk past someone. An Epipen wouldn't have changed his reaction.
People tend to pay attention to nut allergies. Allergies to perfumes etc get scoffed at from people like you.
There are perfumes all around you AT ALL TIMES when you are out and about. Detergent, soap, skincare, cleaning products, hotel & store branding efforts...the list goes on.
Do you never go anywhere? Never go on vacation? Never shop in a store? How do you avoid perfumes?
NP.
It is true fragrances are everywhere and it is also true that they have harmful effects.
First paragraph of the paper linked below:
Contrary to popular belief, most exposure to hazardous pollutants that affect health and well-being occurs indoors (Ott et al., 2007, Brown, 2007). A primary source of these indoor pollutants and exposures is common fragranced consumer products, such as air fresheners, cleaning products, laundry supplies, and personal care products (Cheng et al., 2015, Nazaroff and Weschler, 2004, Steinemann et al., 2011).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5122698/
https://www.noaa.gov/news/those-scented-products-you-love-noaa-study-finds-they-can-cause-air-pollution
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6377/760
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/23/fragrance-perfume-personal-cleaning-products-health-issues
Anonymous
04/28/2021 11:22
Subject: Re:Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:The same people who are "allergic" to perfume are also lactose intolerant, gluten free, have fibromyalgia, and about a million other vague medical diagnosis. They all fall under the umbrella of attention seeking hypochondriacs.
You’re White, right? Assuming you must be since you don’t seem to realize much of the non-white population world-wide is lactose intolerant. Feel free to step into their bathroom 5 minutes after they eat a cheese sandwich or pizza.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 10:59
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
If you think perfume is just worn by old people, step into a Sephora and notice that entire wall that's dedicated to perfumes. Their demographic isn't exactly senior citizens.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 10:59
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
The person who claims there was an asthma attack after walking by someone sounds like the people who claim they have to live away from electricity because it makes them sick.
It's psychological.
It's psychological.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 10:56
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Perfume takes my breath away. I have had to leave my seat just to breath clear air. People if you must wear perfume, please dab a tiny bit so that only someone up close can smell it, no everyone within 5 feet of you. It's awful when you stink.
It’s always been rude to wear too much. A cloud around you has never been fashionable which was one of the struggles in the 80s when scents like Poison, Obsession, and Polo dominated the school hallways. I love perfume but man, those years had to be hard on teachers and staff.
Poison, Obsession, and Giorgio were rough. I liked Polo.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 10:34
Subject: Re:Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm going to make Outside Smell perfume and sell it to only old money people.
and Big 3 students.
Can someone explain this reference? Old money smells outdoorsy?
Anonymous
04/28/2021 10:17
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Sorry, I will keep wearing a minuscule dab of J'Adore, or Poison, my two favorite perfumes. I have a very sensitive sense of smell and a tiny dab goes a very long way. Feel free to tell me that you can't stand the way I smell. I won't be offended, but I will keep doing something non-lethal that makes me happy.
Also, my son has anaphylactic allergies to peanuts and tree nuts, and I do not appreciate that people like you demand that others cater to their sensitivities when others need to carry Epipens for their lethal allergies and navigate potentially deadly situations, often daily, without making a big deal out of it. As a general rule, I've noticed that the people with the biggest burdens in life don't make the most noise.
Do you not understand that not liking the smell isn't the issue?
My ds ended up on oxygen more than once because of people's scented products. All we had to do was walk past someone. An Epipen wouldn't have changed his reaction.
People tend to pay attention to nut allergies. Allergies to perfumes etc get scoffed at from people like you.
Maybe the kid should be wearing his mask.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 10:15
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Do you not understand that not liking the smell isn't the issue?
My ds ended up on oxygen more than once because of people's scented products. All we had to do was walk past someone. An Epipen wouldn't have changed his reaction.
People tend to pay attention to nut allergies. Allergies to perfumes etc get scoffed at from people like you.
There are perfumes all around you AT ALL TIMES when you are out and about. Detergent, soap, skincare, cleaning products, hotel & store branding efforts...the list goes on.
Do you never go anywhere? Never go on vacation? Never shop in a store? How do you avoid perfumes?
I mean, if folks are this sensitive, how do they live in cities/suburbs at all? You mean to tell me a glancing whiff of Obsession sends you into a days long health crisis, but you somehow survive all the vehicle exhaust, restaurant ventilation smells, janitorial products used in schoools/offices, etc.? Do you just live on your own personal acreage?
This is my question. And I’m seriously doubting that a passing whiff of someone’s perfume caused a days long oxygen episode.
There are smells that are much more pervasive, and much stronger, that we have to deal with on a daily basis.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 10:13
Subject: Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Perfume takes my breath away. I have had to leave my seat just to breath clear air. People if you must wear perfume, please dab a tiny bit so that only someone up close can smell it, no everyone within 5 feet of you. It's awful when you stink.
It’s always been rude to wear too much. A cloud around you has never been fashionable which was one of the struggles in the 80s when scents like Poison, Obsession, and Polo dominated the school hallways. I love perfume but man, those years had to be hard on teachers and staff.
Anonymous
04/28/2021 10:08
Subject: Re:Perfume is Unfashionable and Inconsiderate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm going to make Outside Smell perfume and sell it to only old money people.
and Big 3 students.
Stop it. Don’t bring kids into this mess of a thread. Pages of this are simply you all hurling thoughtless insults at each other.