Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 18:25     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am in my 50s, completely unable to get the vaccine in MD at this point, and there is no way I am showing up for in person dining, no matter what is open. Hopefully there will be enough people 18-35 to keep restaurants going during this time.


You do realize that 56% of those above 65 are vaccinated in MD, right?

I’ve seen lots of older folks out at restaurants.


Sure, for those 56%, if their spouses and the people who live with them are vaccinated.

Otherwise, they can still.bring home an asymptomatic case. The vaccine doesn't deploy a plastic barrier around you, it just gives you enough immunity to fight off a Covid infection and/or milder version.

But I'm all for as many people getting the vaccine and/or Covid and creating herd immunity, so I don't have to.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 18:24     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Partay!!!! Vaccinated or not it is on!




A bit of normalcy before the body count goes up.

Stay home and hide! The rest of us do not care in the least whether you die or not!


That’s way harsh PP
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 18:15     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Anonymous wrote:I am in my 50s, completely unable to get the vaccine in MD at this point, and there is no way I am showing up for in person dining, no matter what is open. Hopefully there will be enough people 18-35 to keep restaurants going during this time.


You do realize that 56% of those above 65 are vaccinated in MD, right?

I’ve seen lots of older folks out at restaurants.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 18:15     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Anonymous wrote:


Uh oh! What will the people on this board do, if MoCo actually allows people to gather?
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 18:07     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 17:26     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
I am in my 50s, completely unable to get the vaccine in MD at this point, and there is no way I am showing up for in person dining, no matter what is open. Hopefully there will be enough people 18-35 to keep restaurants going during this time.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 12:49     Subject: It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/coronavirus/council-to-consider-increasing-capacity-for-restaurants-retail-shops-to-50/
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 11:09     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Here is an update on the authority of local government to establish their own restrictions under local authority.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-attorney-general-executive-order-20210312-t4kbdun3ufhbdjbycwtxw6igse-story.html
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 10:58     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want this over. I think this is a huge mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm very worried.

Here are today's numbers, before the restrictions are lifted.



You do see that 9 people in the entire state were admitted to the hospital for COVID yesterday? And 14 died? As high risk folks get vaccinated, the case counts will be irrelevant. In fact, they will contribute to the herd immunity that you are seeking. If you are "very worried," it means that you are not qualified to make public health policy.


We'll just see won't we? The funny thing is that I'm not professionally qualified, yet I have been right about almost everything during the pandemic. And yes, if you only want to focus on hospitalizations and deaths the numbers aren't bad. But those are lagging indicators and the case counts doing up will drive those numbers up, especially with schools reopening. I can't belief that after all this time getting kids back into school isn't more of a priority.


And again, no. You missed the point of my post. Hospitalizations and deaths come from middle and old people who are at risk of bad outcomes. There will be a few younger outliers who have underlying conditions and will get ill without the vaccine. But simple case rates now? No problem.


We are going to have to agree to disagree. There are large numbers of under 65s, including those with health conditions that put them at increased risk of serious illness, who aren't yet eligible for the vaccine. Many of them are out there working in public in industries not yet eligible. For this population, the increase in cases which reflects increasing community spread is concerning. I don't see why we can't wait another 2-3 months to get more of this population vaccinated before removing restrictions.

Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 10:48     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want this over. I think this is a huge mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm very worried.

Here are today's numbers, before the restrictions are lifted.



You do see that 9 people in the entire state were admitted to the hospital for COVID yesterday? And 14 died? As high risk folks get vaccinated, the case counts will be irrelevant. In fact, they will contribute to the herd immunity that you are seeking. If you are "very worried," it means that you are not qualified to make public health policy.


We'll just see won't we? The funny thing is that I'm not professionally qualified, yet I have been right about almost everything during the pandemic. And yes, if you only want to focus on hospitalizations and deaths the numbers aren't bad. But those are lagging indicators and the case counts doing up will drive those numbers up, especially with schools reopening. I can't belief that after all this time getting kids back into school isn't more of a priority.


And again, no. You missed the point of my post. Hospitalizations and deaths come from middle and old people who are at risk of bad outcomes. There will be a few younger outliers who have underlying conditions and will get ill without the vaccine. But simple case rates now? No problem.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 10:35     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Anonymous wrote:This is so demoralizing. My kids are finally back in school and day care after 11 months, now that the holiday spike is over. Yet we're at a higher baseline, arpund 13-14/100k, than we have been since last May. Only 10% of the population is fully vaccinated, and opening everything up to full capacity means cases can only go up from here. We really couldn't wait to vaccinate more people and reduce our baseline? I want my kids to stay in school and I don't want to get covid from them because everyone else is packing restaurants.


Where do you live? MoCo hasn't been at 13 for a month. Keep up!
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2021 07:44     Subject: Re:It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I want this over. I think this is a huge mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm very worried.

Here are today's numbers, before the restrictions are lifted.



You do see that 9 people in the entire state were admitted to the hospital for COVID yesterday? And 14 died? As high risk folks get vaccinated, the case counts will be irrelevant. In fact, they will contribute to the herd immunity that you are seeking. If you are "very worried," it means that you are not qualified to make public health policy.


Not necessarily. The change is +9 I’m not arguing that this is the case, but as many as 810 people could have been admitted to the hospital yesterday IF 801 people previously in the hospital were discharged.

My concern is the number of people vaccinated — which is still quite low, and even lower among some higher risk demographic groups.
I think a better plan would be to get all of the teachers vaccinated, get the kids back in schools, and at least get the people in group 2 vaccinated. My ideal would be to aim for opening up by Memorial Day weekend, with every adult who wants one able to be at least partially vaccinated.

I don’t disagree with the categories, but there are a lot of very high risk people out there who aren’t yet eligible to even sign up for a vaccine.




Agreed. It’s more the timing of this that bugs me- happy to see more open this summer but would rather we wait a few more weeks and get more folks vaccinated/kids back in school.