Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could write the whole history of the racist construction of “childhood” and who is entitled to have one by reference to this thread.
do you know the race of the officers?
It's irrelevant. The thread is the story.
well it is relevant. if it was black officers mistreating a black child, that changes the narrative.
It doesn't change the way this kid has been adultified in this thread. That's happening because he is assumed to be black, not because of anyone's particular belief about the race of the police.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find this really confusing. It's hard to know what happened. I am always suspicious when there is just one side, especially when that side is the lawyers representing one person.
One one hand, the kid ran away from school. One of the things that the article objects to seems to be that the police picked up the kid, put him in the car and drove him back to school. To me, that's what I'd expect. The police's first job in that circumstance is definitely to get the kid back to the adults who are caring for him. Yes, being "placed in a squad car" (one of the things they object to) is scary, but I'm not sure how else they should get the child back to school
It sounds like some of the things they said while they were doing it were out of line, but honestly without the other side it's just hard to say.
I don’t understand why they are objecting to this part. The yelling and kid handcuffs are way out of line, but I take it with a grain of salt since they’re making a big deal about being “placed in a squad car”.
At one point they also object to the fact that they used the word "now" when talking to the kid, and that they asked him to sit down in the office.
Our police need way more training in dealing with people who are mentally ill, which almost certainly includes this child. What they're describing isn't OK. The words the officer used aren't OK. But this isn't a million dollar police brutality case. This is an officer with a very out of control child, who said some stupid things, while basically doing his job which was to return the kid to school.
I know there is a lot of resistance to the school resource officer program, but this is the exact type of situation in which you need officers who are specially trained to deal with particular situations. Were these just officers who were on patrol in the area and had to go pick up this kid? I work with law enforcement (not MoCo though) and this is why properly trained school resource officers and truancy officers are essential. Common sense should have dictated that those officers not act like that to a 5 year old, but there needs to be officers specially trained to deal with behavioral issues with kids that can be used in this situation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could write the whole history of the racist construction of “childhood” and who is entitled to have one by reference to this thread.
do you know the race of the officers?
It's irrelevant. The thread is the story.
well it is relevant. if it was black officers mistreating a black child, that changes the narrative.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could write the whole history of the racist construction of “childhood” and who is entitled to have one by reference to this thread.
do you know the race of the officers?
It's irrelevant. The thread is the story.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Was the lawsuit was filed before mom and lawyer saw the video? If so, was it the cruiser ride back to the school that triggered the suit?
Moco is notoriously slow at releasing body cam.
Oh the video is very damning and these cops are in serious trouble.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could write the whole history of the racist construction of “childhood” and who is entitled to have one by reference to this thread.
do you know the race of the officers?
Anonymous wrote:That too. The cops were over the top for sure. But the child is safe and unharmed.
Anonymous wrote:Moco is notoriously slow at releasing body cam.
Oh the video is very damning and these cops are in serious trouble.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to put myself in their shoes. So the gist of it, if my 5 1/2 year old eloped from school, and school employees were unable to stop him at the school property line and had to call the police. Then if it took officers 50 minutes and a bunch of “your mom is going to spank you when you get home” and a ride in the cruiser back to school...
I’d be angry... not at the school or police officers but at my child. I can’t imagine ever thinking I was entitled to money because of this. Without seeing the video, I may have a different opinion but I’m not going to take the lawyer’s play by play.
Well, there are terrible parents and you sound like one. If you have kids snd you think it’s okay to tell a kid they deserve to be beaten get therapy.
We haven’t seen the recordings to know what was said.
We have quotes from the video and you can lie in a suit.
Listen miss blue lives matter, you should want better coworkers, stop defending these horrible cops. Clean house and be better.
We have "quotes" as summarized by the family's lawyer. That's not an objective source at all. And you are right (although I assume it was a typo) you can lie -- or at least greatly distort -- is a lawsuit.
Let me put it this way, if in an answer to the complaint, the cop's attorney provides his own, very different, summary of the video will you take that as gospel as well? You wouldn't, nor should you. Your error is in treating any lawyer's rendition of facts as necessarily accurate.
Anonymous wrote:Maybe evaluate the boundaries you have for acceptable behavior toward a young child - a FIVE year old.
It’s one thing to pick up the child, let him know in no uncertain terms the behavior was totally unacceptable, and to coordinate with the parent to determine an appropriate path forward. This could include suspension, etc.
It’s another thing to berate, terrorize, and threaten a child with physical harm for over 50 minutes. That’s despicable and completely out of bounds of professional behavior, let alone how any LEO and school should treat a child. Can you as an adult imagine a scenario where you were detained by police who threatened physical harm to you for almost an hour? How would you feel?
Also, how the hell did a child leave the school to begin with? Again, we’re talking a five year old. Where were the responsible adults who are supposed to ensure that young children don’t just walk off school property. If this were a 15 year old, different situation. This is a FIVE year old.
Anonymous wrote:I bet he never leaves school on his own again.
Anonymous wrote:Its not appropriate for a police officer to say mom will spank you as that's a parenting choice but I would fully expect a police office to pick up a child and put them in a car to return them to school I would assume the child was continuing to act up with price but we don't know until we saw the video. My big concern is what happened at school to make this child leave? Was the child bullied? Threatened? Special needs? Kids don't typically elope except in SN or feeling upset or threatened.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another ESS mom here. I hope this story goes national as an undeniable example of racism and police brutality. A 5 year old verbally assaulted and traumatized for 50 minutes. Yes I’m making assumptions about race but I have a student in this grade and believe I do know the family. Absolutely unacceptable.
This is why we have all the race problems. White is bad and always to blame. We don't know the entire situation in less you are going to tell us what happens din that grade or school but if this is happening you may want to pull your child from that school as something doesn't sound right.