Your kid will find a place, and even if it the first place s/he starts, there is a great school out there for your kid.

University of Hartford, Juniata, St. Joes (in Philadelphia), Elizabethtown, Susquehanna. Lots of small private schools in PA that are away but close enough for you to keep an eye on your kid if necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here.

Totally agree that CTCL has a lot of great options. Among the best might be Beloit, which is easy to get to (an hour from O'Hare airport), beautiful, diverse, nurturing, and had the best interaction between artsy students and athletes of any school we toured. It's not hard to get into compared to other colleges of that quality, and it has lots of smart students who did poorly in high school. Quite a few of them end up getting PhDs!

Beloit would be good for OP's son, but would be a reach with his GPA. It admits 56% of applicants; Eckert admits 67% and OP said her son was WL there.

A PhD is not a holy grail. Unless it’s from a top school and someone is incredibly entrepreneurial with their own research and writing skills, it is often a perpetually under-employed, low-paid person who didn’t know what to do career-wise who ends up moving from adjunct to adjunct or finally in a job that didn’t need the PhD to begin with.

Ouch. But I have thought this too! All the tiny schools bragging about their PhD students doesn’t always line up.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here.

Totally agree that CTCL has a lot of great options. Among the best might be Beloit, which is easy to get to (an hour from O'Hare airport), beautiful, diverse, nurturing, and had the best interaction between artsy students and athletes of any school we toured. It's not hard to get into compared to other colleges of that quality, and it has lots of smart students who did poorly in high school. Quite a few of them end up getting PhDs!

Beloit would be good for OP's son, but would be a reach with his GPA. It admits 56% of applicants; Eckert admits 67% and OP said her son was WL there.

A PhD is not a holy grail. Unless it’s from a top school and someone is incredibly entrepreneurial with their own research and writing skills, it is often a perpetually under-employed, low-paid person who didn’t know what to do career-wise who ends up moving from adjunct to adjunct or finally in a job that didn’t need the PhD to begin with.

His SAT score is good. Focus on a strong essay and relax.

Anonymous wrote:A 2.6 is not a d average. At privates that would be half cs and half ds. Not great but not a d average. Ops kid will get in somewhere fine. Those SLACs that some PPs are disparaging do well with placement after graduation because they work hard at it. Otherwise they can’t attract new students.

A B is 3.0 and a C is 2.0. So this kid has a B- average. And the private school bump. Jeez.

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Anonymous wrote:A 2.6 is not a d average. At privates that would be half cs and half ds. Not great but not a d average. Ops kid will get in somewhere fine. Those SLACs that some PPs are disparaging do well with placement after graduation because they work hard at it. Otherwise they can’t attract new students.

2.6 is a B-

In private that is pretty good, 82 ish

That is mostly B’s with a C here and there.

On most scales, I believe it is a solid C (perhaps C+). B=80's, A=90's. that is the customary scale.

No.

It’s a B-

https://gpacalculator.net/how-to-calculate-gpa/semester-gpa/

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Anonymous wrote:I swear someone is paid to come on here and promote community college.

Or, most likely, tons of NoVa parents who renovated their kitchen, yet again, or bought that 2nd suv, and ... surprise ...no longer have money for their kid's college. "They really aren't ready. Community college is best"

if your kids can't even get into a even tier 3 college, doing well in community college and transferring to UVA or VT is going to set them up far better than going to some random SLAC in rural ohio that no-one, including graduate school admissions officers and hr professionals, has ever heard of. The bashing seems to be from people who have been able to buy little larlo and elite education all their lives and are now realizing that doesn't work for college

Stop. Look at the stats that show the (small) percentage of CC students who actually go on to graduate from the likes of VT or UVA. Just stop. OP is “full pay” and that, my friend, means something especially post-pandemic, given that the gravy train of full pay international students has derailed.

This. If you are "full pay" you child does not have to go to community college. And they will probably be more successful at a smaller.college with more attention anyhow.

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Anonymous wrote:A 2.6 is not a d average. At privates that would be half cs and half ds. Not great but not a d average. Ops kid will get in somewhere fine. Those SLACs that some PPs are disparaging do well with placement after graduation because they work hard at it. Otherwise they can’t attract new students.

2.6 is a B-

In private that is pretty good, 82 ish

That is mostly B’s with a C here and there.

On most scales, I believe it is a solid C (perhaps C+). B=80's, A=90's. that is the customary scale.

Anonymous wrote:A 2.6 is not a d average. At privates that would be half cs and half ds. Not great but not a d average. Ops kid will get in somewhere fine. Those SLACs that some PPs are disparaging do well with placement after graduation because they work hard at it. Otherwise they can’t attract new students.

2.6 is a B-

In private that is pretty good, 82 ish

That is mostly B’s with a C here and there.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here.

Totally agree that CTCL has a lot of great options. Among the best might be Beloit, which is easy to get to (an hour from O'Hare airport), beautiful, diverse, nurturing, and had the best interaction between artsy students and athletes of any school we toured. It's not hard to get into compared to other colleges of that quality, and it has lots of smart students who did poorly in high school. Quite a few of them end up getting PhDs!

Beloit would be good for OP's son, but would be a reach with his GPA. It admits 56% of applicants; Eckert admits 67% and OP said her son was WL there.

Agreed. Beloit is a fabulous and under-appreciated college (that has received national recognition for how well it’s handling COVID) and sounds like OP’s DC may thrive there. However, plenty of Beloit students have very strong GPAs and test scores. Beloit offers amazing merit aid to those students. My DS was one of them - accepted at several NESCACs but went to Beloit because he liked it best and we liked the merit aid. OP, the winters are long at Beloit so I don’t know if that would be an issue, but the professors are wonderful, really care, get to know the students individually and develop lifelong relationships with their students. Even if it’s a reach, I think your DC should consider it.

Anonymous wrote:NP here.

Totally agree that CTCL has a lot of great options. Among the best might be Beloit, which is easy to get to (an hour from O'Hare airport), beautiful, diverse, nurturing, and had the best interaction between artsy students and athletes of any school we toured. It's not hard to get into compared to other colleges of that quality, and it has lots of smart students who did poorly in high school. Quite a few of them end up getting PhDs!

Beloit would be good for OP's son, but would be a reach with his GPA. It admits 56% of applicants; Eckert admits 67% and OP said her son was WL there.

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Anonymous wrote:I swear someone is paid to come on here and promote community college.

Or, most likely, tons of NoVa parents who renovated their kitchen, yet again, or bought that 2nd suv, and ... surprise ...no longer have money for their kid's college. "They really aren't ready. Community college is best"

if your kids can't even get into a even tier 3 college, doing well in community college and transferring to UVA or VT is going to set them up far better than going to some random SLAC in rural ohio that no-one, including graduate school admissions officers and hr professionals, has ever heard of. The bashing seems to be from people who have been able to buy little larlo and elite education all their lives and are now realizing that doesn't work for college

Stop. Look at the stats that show the (small) percentage of CC students who actually go on to graduate from the likes of VT or UVA. Just stop. OP is “full pay” and that, my friend, means something especially post-pandemic, given that the gravy train of full pay international students has derailed.

fun pay with a D average in high school- it means open admissions SLAC

Where in this thread is a D average?

A 2.6 is not a d average. At privates that would be half cs and half ds. Not great but not a d average. Ops kid will get in somewhere fine. Those SLACs that some PPs are disparaging do well with placement after graduation because they work hard at it. Otherwise they can’t attract new students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I swear someone is paid to come on here and promote community college.

Or, most likely, tons of NoVa parents who renovated their kitchen, yet again, or bought that 2nd suv, and ... surprise ...no longer have money for their kid's college. "They really aren't ready. Community college is best"

if your kids can't even get into a even tier 3 college, doing well in community college and transferring to UVA or VT is going to set them up far better than going to some random SLAC in rural ohio that no-one, including graduate school admissions officers and hr professionals, has ever heard of. The bashing seems to be from people who have been able to buy little larlo and elite education all their lives and are now realizing that doesn't work for college

Stop. Look at the stats that show the (small) percentage of CC students who actually go on to graduate from the likes of VT or UVA. Just stop. OP is “full pay” and that, my friend, means something especially post-pandemic, given that the gravy train of full pay international students has derailed.

fun pay with a D average in high school- it means open admissions SLAC

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I swear someone is paid to come on here and promote community college.

Or, most likely, tons of NoVa parents who renovated their kitchen, yet again, or bought that 2nd suv, and ... surprise ...no longer have money for their kid's college. "They really aren't ready. Community college is best"

if your kids can't even get into a even tier 3 college, doing well in community college and transferring to UVA or VT is going to set them up far better than going to some random SLAC in rural ohio that no-one, including graduate school admissions officers and hr professionals, has ever heard of. The bashing seems to be from people who have been able to buy little larlo and elite education all their lives and are now realizing that doesn't work for college

Stop. Look at the stats that show the (small) percentage of CC students who actually go on to graduate from the likes of VT or UVA. Just stop. OP is “full pay” and that, my friend, means something especially post-pandemic, given that the gravy train of full pay international students has derailed.