Anonymous wrote:Curious, OP and first PP, do you have school-aged children?

You're probably right, but I hope you're wrong.

My child will be 11 years old in September 2022 and this will have consumed 25% of his life. He's not doing well now, and I can only guess what another year or more of this will do him. And he's one of the lucky ones, from a stable, supportive home.

I get there are no easy solutions and we have very few options, but that doesn't stop this from being devastating.

Anonymous wrote:Trump made COVID political and continues to as he speaks around the country. His latest saying he is going to fire Fauci. We better all hope Biden gets in or we will never get this virus under control.

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Anonymous wrote:I worry it will be longer to return if Biden is elected (obviously still want him to win). He’s very close with teachers unions, and they have unreasonable expectations. I’m in favor of hybrid and in person for lower grades.

Oh my god, the Trumpets have arrived.

I’m not a Trumpet. I’m a moderate Democrat in a liberal city, where 80% of people voted for Clinton. Even here parents are split on the issue. Working mothers are really struggling. Somehow it got turned into political issue, but lots of Democrats with young children want them to return.

Agreed. It’s a shame it’s become so political. It isn’t everywhere- I have a lot of family in upstate NY and New England, most of their kids are back in school (hybrid) and a couple are teachers themselves. Probably helps that the districts are smaller but they also just seem better organized and put energy into planning. There is an understanding that it could switch back to DL at any time but they seem to appreciate getting some face to face time while the metrics were good. It also seems that reopening schools without major issues (thus far) has made it less of a flash point in their communities. Whereas here I think a lot of fear of the unknown is feeding the debate.

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Anonymous wrote:I worry it will be longer to return if Biden is elected (obviously still want him to win). He’s very close with teachers unions, and they have unreasonable expectations. I’m in favor of hybrid and in person for lower grades.

Oh my god, the Trumpets have arrived.

I’m not a Trumpet. I’m a moderate Democrat in a liberal city, where 80% of people voted for Clinton. Even here parents are split on the issue. Working mothers are really struggling. Somehow it got turned into political issue, but lots of Democrats with young children want them to return.

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Anonymous wrote:I worry it will be longer to return if Biden is elected (obviously still want him to win). He’s very close with teachers unions, and they have unreasonable expectations. I’m in favor of hybrid and in person for lower grades.

Oh my god, the Trumpets have arrived.

Anonymous wrote:I worry it will be longer to return if Biden is elected (obviously still want him to win). He’s very close with teachers unions, and they have unreasonable expectations. I’m in favor of hybrid and in person for lower grades.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been saying this for months. Big public schools aren't going back until 2022-23 in the DC area. The "until zero deaths / vaccine" position taken by the unions means 2022-23 earliest.

I think some schools will pretend it will be earlier, but that's just posturing and theatrics.

I think if you want in-person school, you have to move or go to private.

Only in America.

LOL Europe is shutting down as we speak. All of the U.K. is now on lockdown as of tonight. Their case load is astronomical as well and quite a bit of the spread is attributable to schools, so they'll have to close them down again.

Anonymous wrote:I've been saying this for months. Big public schools aren't going back until 2022-23 in the DC area. The "until zero deaths / vaccine" position taken by the unions means 2022-23 earliest.

I think some schools will pretend it will be earlier, but that's just posturing and theatrics.

I think if you want in-person school, you have to move or go to private.

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Anonymous wrote:Pfizer is expanding their trial to kids 12 and up. Previously at 16.

I want to preface my statement by saying that I am glad the drug companies are working on finding a vaccine. But, wow, what parents are putting their kids into these trials? It seems so mind bogglingly unsafe to me. I want a vaccine but I want a little more work and testing with animals first.

I have two guesses: 1) certain foster parents 2) bleeding hearts, kind of like people who enroll their kids into GS2 schools for equity reasons

So caring about other people beyond your own kids makes you a "bleeding heart," as opposed to being selfish and focused only on yourself and your own kids which is apparently considered totally fine and acceptable these days?

I would never sacrifice my kid. Ever.

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But you'd happily sacrifice someone else's kid. Nice.

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Anonymous wrote:Pfizer is expanding their trial to kids 12 and up. Previously at 16.

I want to preface my statement by saying that I am glad the drug companies are working on finding a vaccine. But, wow, what parents are putting their kids into these trials? It seems so mind bogglingly unsafe to me. I want a vaccine but I want a little more work and testing with animals first.

I have two guesses: 1) certain foster parents 2) bleeding hearts, kind of like people who enroll their kids into GS2 schools for equity reasons

So caring about other people beyond your own kids makes you a "bleeding heart," as opposed to being selfish and focused only on yourself and your own kids which is apparently considered totally fine and acceptable these days?

I would never sacrifice my kid. Ever.

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But you'd happily sacrifice someone else's kid. Nice.

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Anonymous wrote:Pfizer is expanding their trial to kids 12 and up. Previously at 16.

I want to preface my statement by saying that I am glad the drug companies are working on finding a vaccine. But, wow, what parents are putting their kids into these trials? It seems so mind bogglingly unsafe to me. I want a vaccine but I want a little more work and testing with animals first.

I have two guesses: 1) certain foster parents 2) bleeding hearts, kind of like people who enroll their kids into GS2 schools for equity reasons

So caring about other people beyond your own kids makes you a "bleeding heart," as opposed to being selfish and focused only on yourself and your own kids which is apparently considered totally fine and acceptable these days?

I would never sacrifice my kid. Ever.

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Anonymous wrote:November 1st in 30 minutes. I expect my household’s Covid vaccine at my doorstep before then.