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Anonymous wrote:Since AZ is opening up most private employers are mandating tests.

So a bunch of people who feel fine are now being tested in order to go back to work, and shocker a lot of people are testing positive.

Look at the average age of positive tests.

Also now that hospitals are open for elective procedures if you go to the hospital for LASIK, or a vasectomy, or any other elective procedure you get a test. And since COVID codes cases bring more money to hospitals they are going to code all positive tests as COVID cases.

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Why did you +1 this post? It is incorrect.

Anonymous wrote:Since AZ is opening up most private employers are mandating tests.

So a bunch of people who feel fine are now being tested in order to go back to work, and shocker a lot of people are testing positive.

Look at the average age of positive tests.

Also now that hospitals are open for elective procedures if you go to the hospital for LASIK, or a vasectomy, or any other elective procedure you get a test. And since COVID codes cases bring more money to hospitals they are going to code all positive tests as COVID cases.

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Anonymous wrote:So the bottom line is, Arizona is far from being a disaster and more of a succes story.

Why do you keep posting this, multiple times and in bold????

So it’s a “success story” when a state starts to run out of ICU beds?? Interesting perspective.

Anonymous wrote:ARIZONA has crossed the rubicon... its epidemic now exceeds Brazil and Peru to be one of the hardest hit regions in the world. Exceeding all European countries as well.

"So all the terrible things you heard about Lombardi, Italy, Arizona per capita has surpassed Lombardi, Italy. That is where I became worried yesterday," he said.

These numbers are not due to increased testing in the state, he explained, saying, “The rise in cases is outstripping the rise in testing and you can see that in positivity percentage.”

The reason for these numbers, he says, is because Arizona has opened up quickly and many in the state are not following social distancing guidelines or wearing masks.

Link
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/harvard-epidemiologist-says-arizona-is-currently-the-worst-off-amongst-u-s-states-in-terms-of-covid-19

ARIZONA has crossed the rubicon... its epidemic now exceeds Brazil and Peru to be one of the hardest hit regions in the world. Exceeding all European countries as well.

"So all the terrible things you heard about Lombardi, Italy, Arizona per capita has surpassed Lombardi, Italy. That is where I became worried yesterday," he said.

These numbers are not due to increased testing in the state, he explained, saying, “The rise in cases is outstripping the rise in testing and you can see that in positivity percentage.”

The reason for these numbers, he says, is because Arizona has opened up quickly and many in the state are not following social distancing guidelines or wearing masks.

There's clearly something going on with testing & the age & health of those being tested.

After three weeks of steep increases in the # of cases in AZ, the 7 day average new hospitalization rate is at 8.9 per million, which is less than MD (13.4 per million) and five other states right now, and a whole world away from the average hospitalization rates in the hardest hit states at the peak (NY was over 100 new hospitalizations per day per 1 million at its peak) . The 7 day average new death rate (2.9) in AZ is still about half that of DC (5.1). Over the last 30 days, the cumulative mortality rate in AZ has declined from 5.01% to 2.95%.

I live in another state that has increasing cases, with the same pattern. Increase in the number of cases over the past month has been accompanied by only a slight increase in hospitalizations and a decrease in the number of new deaths and a steady decrease in the cumulative mortality rate.

This is all consistent with younger, healthier people being diagnosed. I also wonder about the comments from nurses on other threads who say that a significant proportion (one nurse said 43%) of the patients in the coronavirus wards are patients who are in for other reasons who have tested positive, but have no coronavirus symptoms.

http://www.91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/...Epwm9_oqEadVpooHw8CusCDSmUeBPg

Anonymous wrote:Since AZ is opening up most private employers are mandating tests.

So a bunch of people who feel fine are now being tested in order to go back to work, and shocker a lot of people are testing positive.

Look at the average age of positive tests.

Also now that hospitals are open for elective procedures if you go to the hospital for LASIK, or a vasectomy, or any other elective procedure you get a test. And since COVID codes cases bring more money to hospitals they are going to code all positive tests as COVID cases.

Arizona didn't stop elective procedures. So you've got that wrong.

Only on DCUM would you twist the situation in AZ to being a positive thing. Uncontrolled spread is not good under any circumstances in a pandemic. Don’t be stupid.

Anonymous wrote:So the bottom line is, Arizona is far from being a disaster and more of a succes story.

Trump, Pence is that you?

Since AZ is opening up most private employers are mandating tests.

So a bunch of people who feel fine are now being tested in order to go back to work, and shocker a lot of people are testing positive.

Look at the average age of positive tests.

Also now that hospitals are open for elective procedures if you go to the hospital for LASIK, or a vasectomy, or any other elective procedure you get a test. And since COVID codes cases bring more money to hospitals they are going to code all positive tests as COVID cases.

That makes sense, given that there is now much broader availability of testing. A lot of employers are just doing broadscale testing of workers, so they are naturally testing a lot more young, healthy workers.
A 20% infection rate is pretty scary, though. If you go into a church that has a few hundred people in it, that's about 60 people breathing out COVID germs that circulate around the church.

There's clearly something going on with testing & the age & health of those being tested.

After three weeks of steep increases in the # of cases in AZ, the 7 day average new hospitalization rate is at 8.9 per million, which is less than MD (13.4 per million) and five other states right now, and a whole world away from the average hospitalization rates in the hardest hit states at the peak (NY was over 100 new hospitalizations per day per 1 million at its peak) . The 7 day average new death rate (2.9) in AZ is still about half that of DC (5.1). Over the last 30 days, the cumulative mortality rate in AZ has declined from 5.01% to 2.95%.

I live in another state that has increasing cases, with the same pattern. Increase in the number of cases over the past month has been accompanied by only a slight increase in hospitalizations and a decrease in the number of new deaths and a steady decrease in the cumulative mortality rate.

This is all consistent with younger, healthier people being diagnosed. I also wonder about the comments from nurses on other threads who say that a significant proportion (one nurse said 43%) of the patients in the coronavirus wards are patients who are in for other reasons who have tested positive, but have no coronavirus symptoms.

http://www.91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?fbclid=IwAR31GHXuyL1QxPp5xKusUXXQg2e0EEpwm9_oqEadVpooHw8CusCDSmUeBPg