Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:59
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Genuinely asking, why is "All Lives Matter" such a negative term? It seems accurate and inclusive of all groups and races.
This has been explained and discussed throughout this thread. Go look.
NP here: none of the tortured logic and mental gymnastics in the prior pages explain why “all lives” matter is somehow racist.
It is not racist.
Ok, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you really want to know and aren’t just looking to argue.
It’s because it is Black people first and foremost who are dying at the hands of police brutality. They are saying, police think black lives don’t matter, and we’re saying otherwise. When you respond All Lives Matter, it's the equivalent of a man going to a breast cancer march and saying “why aren’t you also marching for prostate cancer? All cancers matter!” Well yes, they do — but right now we’re talking about this one.
So back to you — why do you feel like it is insulting to specifically focus on Black people right now?
Where does the PP state that "they feel like it is insulting to specifically focus on Black people right now?"
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:57
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This has been explained and discussed throughout this thread. Go look.
NP here: none of the tortured logic and mental gymnastics in the prior pages explain why “all lives” matter is somehow racist.
It is not racist.
When there is a breast cancer fundraiser, no one complains that "all cancers matter." And when there is a nursing conference no one complains that "all professions matter." And yet, when there is a a movement to address police brutality that impacts the black community more than others, people take personal offense as if it somehow implies that other lives don't matter. This is the essence of racism, and it's worth examining why you feel the need to generalize this issue to "all lives" but not in other cases. This sort of double standard is the essence of racism.
PP here: This is the best explanation I have heard yet. Thank you! (I honestly wasn't seeking to stir the pot or create an argument. I just wanted to understand. For some reason, DCUM posters can be so mean. There is no need to jump down everyone's throat just for asking questions. Doing so just shows ones ignorance.)
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:48
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Genuinely asking, why is "All Lives Matter" such a negative term? It seems accurate and inclusive of all groups and races.
This has been explained and discussed throughout this thread. Go look.
NP here: none of the tortured logic and mental gymnastics in the prior pages explain why “all lives” matter is somehow racist.
It is not racist.
Ok, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you really want to know and aren’t just looking to argue.
It’s because it is Black people first and foremost who are dying at the hands of police brutality. They are saying, police think black lives don’t matter, and we’re saying otherwise. When you respond All Lives Matter, it's the equivalent of a man going to a breast cancer march and saying “why aren’t you also marching for prostate cancer? All cancers matter!” Well yes, they do — but right now we’re talking about this one.
So back to you — why do you feel like it is insulting to specifically focus on Black people right now?
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:48
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This has been explained and discussed throughout this thread. Go look.
NP here: none of the tortured logic and mental gymnastics in the prior pages explain why “all lives” matter is somehow racist.
It is not racist.
When there is a breast cancer fundraiser, no one complains that "all cancers matter." And when there is a nursing conference no one complains that "all professions matter." And yet, when there is a a movement to address police brutality that impacts the black community more than others, people take personal offense as if it somehow implies that other lives don't matter. This is the essence of racism, and it's worth examining why you feel the need to generalize this issue to "all lives" but not in other cases. This sort of double standard is the essence of racism.
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:45
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Genuinely asking, why is "All Lives Matter" such a negative term? It seems accurate and inclusive of all groups and races.
This has been explained and discussed throughout this thread. Go look.
NP here: none of the tortured logic and mental gymnastics in the prior pages explain why “all lives” matter is somehow racist.
It is not racist.
All Lives Matter is a way of derailing the discussion. In the abstract, sure, it's not racist. But the people who promote ALM are acting in a racist manner, trying to distort the meaning of the name intentionally.
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:44
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:PP here: I did not see a full explanation in the previous replies in this thread. I did not ask the name to be changed. I just was seeking to understand why the term has such a negative connotation?
That's wonderful that you're seeking greater understanding. Now did you read the title of this thread? It's about Black Lives Matter and as opposed to trying to hijack this conversation and shift the focus why don't you start a new thread and dive right into the beauty of All Lives Matter.
Take care.
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:43
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:PP here: I did not see a full explanation in the previous replies in this thread. I did not ask the name to be changed. I just was seeking to understand why the term has such a negative connotation?
Because people who don't want to address the movement's legitimate grievances deliberately misconstrued it so they could make it about them. If the name was changed, they'd find some other reason not to support it.
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:42
Subject: The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please help me understand how breaking windows and stealing everything from CVS and Target or setting fires to locally owned businesses has anything to do with this?
Well. I think it reveals the true character of some black people and diminishes support for BLM.
Lots of looters are white. Does that "reveal the true character of some white people and diminish support for" white people? Yes, looting is bad. Most -- the vast majority -- of protesters are not looting.
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:41
Subject: The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:The name comes across as "only black lives matter" and I know that is not the intention.
Shut up.
Black Lives Matter is the intention. Full stop.
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:39
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
All Lives Matter! I see nothing wrong with that. (Asian, Indian, African American, White, Native American. They all matter!)
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:37
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
PP here: I did not see a full explanation in the previous replies in this thread. I did not ask the name to be changed. I just was seeking to understand why the term has such a negative connotation?
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:33
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Genuinely asking, why is "All Lives Matter" such a negative term? It seems accurate and inclusive of all groups and races.
This has been explained and discussed throughout this thread. Go look.
NP here: none of the tortured logic and mental gymnastics in the prior pages explain why “all lives” matter is somehow racist.
It is not racist.
Fine.
But the name still isn't getting changed.
Sorry.
You gonna be okay?
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:30
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
That is your opinion. Now go talk to an actual black person and ask if they were they were and the cops were being racist. You are woefully misinformed and you need black friends.Anonymous wrote:I have no problem. With the phrase Black Lives Matter, I have more discomfort with the underlying message that the reason black men are killed more often by cops is due to racism by the police. The sad fact is that black males are disproportionately more likely to be in environments with high levels of crime and that is why they end up in situations where they are disproportionately killed by police.
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:29
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Genuinely asking, why is "All Lives Matter" such a negative term? It seems accurate and inclusive of all groups and races.
This has been explained and discussed throughout this thread. Go look.
NP here: none of the tortured logic and mental gymnastics in the prior pages explain why “all lives” matter is somehow racist.
It is not racist.
Anonymous
06/03/2020 09:16
Subject: Re:The BLM movement needs to new name to be accepted by all
Anonymous wrote:Genuinely asking, why is "All Lives Matter" such a negative term? It seems accurate and inclusive of all groups and races.
This has been explained and discussed throughout this thread. Go look.