Anonymous
04/24/2020 15:41
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:I believe the formal, MLS-led DA league will be U15 & U17, as that's what the MLS spokesman has said publicly. However, I think most of the teams will field U13/14/16/18 sides and compete amongst one another, maybe not with the formal moniker of 'MLS' but composed primarily of the teams competing in that league.
We've seen similar this year with the U12 "pre-DA" that Bethedsa, Arlington, Richmond and Baltimore fielded. They competed amongst themselves (I think in EDP) while waiting another year for the formal DA to start.
Have a kid that will be U13 we were told by Armour that the MLS league will for sure have a U13 and U14 Division.
Anonymous
04/24/2020 15:24
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe the formal, MLS-led DA league will be U15 & U17, as that's what the MLS spokesman has said publicly. However, I think most of the teams will field U13/14/16/18 sides and compete amongst one another, maybe not with the formal moniker of 'MLS' but composed primarily of the teams competing in that league.
We've seen similar this year with the U12 "pre-DA" that Bethedsa, Arlington, Richmond and Baltimore fielded. They competed amongst themselves (I think in EDP) while waiting another year for the formal DA to start.
Still very doubtful.
U15 and U17 would follow MLS teams' schedule and play on the same day as Mexico. That is based on how many team could be accommodated by the travel, game schedule.
2 youth team games are feasible between MLS teams before the main event.
If so U13-U19 for clubs outside of MLS, that would be for sure 2nd tier, aka abandoned clubs/teams have fun with each other, you could barely call it a "league".
Even if this is true, Boys (former) DA teams would choose to be second tier vs third tier, which is Boys ECNL.
“Look at what league my son plays in. Don’t pay attention to whether his team is actually good or if he is actually good or if either is actually developing or how they play. And goodness don’t ask us to play anybody else when we would find out just how good other teams and clubs are.” Weak weak weak. Read, flush.
On the boys side, the picture is much less murky than what you hint at, which explains some ECNL's parents's ecstasy at DA's demise and at the possibility that their kids may know play in THE league.
I am sure you differ, but please tell me which ECNL existing clubs have better boys teams than DCU, Bethesda, or Baltimore Armor, or even than Pipeline and Washington Capital United?
Anonymous
04/24/2020 14:31
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe the formal, MLS-led DA league will be U15 & U17, as that's what the MLS spokesman has said publicly. However, I think most of the teams will field U13/14/16/18 sides and compete amongst one another, maybe not with the formal moniker of 'MLS' but composed primarily of the teams competing in that league.
We've seen similar this year with the U12 "pre-DA" that Bethedsa, Arlington, Richmond and Baltimore fielded. They competed amongst themselves (I think in EDP) while waiting another year for the formal DA to start.
Still very doubtful.
U15 and U17 would follow MLS teams' schedule and play on the same day as Mexico. That is based on how many team could be accommodated by the travel, game schedule.
2 youth team games are feasible between MLS teams before the main event.
If so U13-U19 for clubs outside of MLS, that would be for sure 2nd tier, aka abandoned clubs/teams have fun with each other, you could barely call it a "league".
Even if this is true, Boys (former) DA teams would choose to be second tier vs third tier, which is Boys ECNL.
“Look at what league my son plays in. Don’t pay attention to whether his team is actually good or if he is actually good or if either is actually developing or how they play. And goodness don’t ask us to play anybody else when we would find out just how good other teams and clubs are.” Weak weak weak. Read, flush.
Anonymous
04/24/2020 13:49
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe the formal, MLS-led DA league will be U15 & U17, as that's what the MLS spokesman has said publicly. However, I think most of the teams will field U13/14/16/18 sides and compete amongst one another, maybe not with the formal moniker of 'MLS' but composed primarily of the teams competing in that league.
We've seen similar this year with the U12 "pre-DA" that Bethedsa, Arlington, Richmond and Baltimore fielded. They competed amongst themselves (I think in EDP) while waiting another year for the formal DA to start.
Still very doubtful.
U15 and U17 would follow MLS teams' schedule and play on the same day as Mexico. That is based on how many team could be accommodated by the travel, game schedule.
2 youth team games are feasible between MLS teams before the main event.
If so U13-U19 for clubs outside of MLS, that would be for sure 2nd tier, aka abandoned clubs/teams have fun with each other, you could barely call it a "league".
Even if this is true, Boys (former) DA teams would choose to be second tier vs third tier, which is Boys ECNL.
Anonymous
04/24/2020 13:45
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:I believe the formal, MLS-led DA league will be U15 & U17, as that's what the MLS spokesman has said publicly. However, I think most of the teams will field U13/14/16/18 sides and compete amongst one another, maybe not with the formal moniker of 'MLS' but composed primarily of the teams competing in that league.
We've seen similar this year with the U12 "pre-DA" that Bethedsa, Arlington, Richmond and Baltimore fielded. They competed amongst themselves (I think in EDP) while waiting another year for the formal DA to start.
Still very doubtful.
U15 and U17 would follow MLS teams' schedule and play on the same day as Mexico. That is based on how many team could be accommodated by the travel, game schedule.
2 youth team games are feasible between MLS teams before the main event.
If so U13-U19 for clubs outside of MLS, that would be for sure 2nd tier, aka abandoned clubs/teams have fun with each other, you could barely call it a "league".
Anonymous
04/24/2020 13:27
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:I believe the formal, MLS-led DA league will be U15 & U17, as that's what the MLS spokesman has said publicly. However, I think most of the teams will field U13/14/16/18 sides and compete amongst one another, maybe not with the formal moniker of 'MLS' but composed primarily of the teams competing in that league.
We've seen similar this year with the U12 "pre-DA" that Bethedsa, Arlington, Richmond and Baltimore fielded. They competed amongst themselves (I think in EDP) while waiting another year for the formal DA to start.
As were the U16 and U18 teams.
Anonymous
04/24/2020 13:22
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
I believe the formal, MLS-led DA league will be U15 & U17, as that's what the MLS spokesman has said publicly. However, I think most of the teams will field U13/14/16/18 sides and compete amongst one another, maybe not with the formal moniker of 'MLS' but composed primarily of the teams competing in that league.
We've seen similar this year with the U12 "pre-DA" that Bethedsa, Arlington, Richmond and Baltimore fielded. They competed amongst themselves (I think in EDP) while waiting another year for the formal DA to start.
We've seen similar this year with the U12 "pre-DA" that Bethedsa, Arlington, Richmond and Baltimore fielded. They competed amongst themselves (I think in EDP) while waiting another year for the formal DA to start.
Anonymous
04/24/2020 12:44
Subject: Re:Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous
04/24/2020 12:33
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your friend mention if there will be tiers in the MLS league?
He said that was possible and still being discussed, but that for Fall 2020 groupings would more likely be based on geography so that no hotel stays were required for games or tournaments.
So U15 and U17 teams for DCU and Arlington, SAC and Bethesda. The world could have been much, much more interesting. This seems pretty lame. At least the U12 attemot at this had Loudoun, Penn Classics and Richmond as well, and even that should have and could have been much better given other boys clubs in the area. Pass.
No, read above. MLS league for boys U13-19, not just U15 and U17.
It does not agree with MLS own publication few days back.
And this is second trial of DA, only name changed from DA to MLS, and MLS going to pay $6M ? (DA a year is $12M for both Boys and Girls)
Things do not add up man..
Things are changing fast, you can’t really hold someone to something stated last week to now. This is all very fluid. Give it time.
Anonymous
04/24/2020 12:06
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your friend mention if there will be tiers in the MLS league?
He said that was possible and still being discussed, but that for Fall 2020 groupings would more likely be based on geography so that no hotel stays were required for games or tournaments.
So U15 and U17 teams for DCU and Arlington, SAC and Bethesda. The world could have been much, much more interesting. This seems pretty lame. At least the U12 attemot at this had Loudoun, Penn Classics and Richmond as well, and even that should have and could have been much better given other boys clubs in the area. Pass.
No, read above. MLS league for boys U13-19, not just U15 and U17.
It does not agree with MLS own publication few days back.
And this is second trial of DA, only name changed from DA to MLS, and MLS going to pay $6M ? (DA a year is $12M for both Boys and Girls)
Things do not add up man..
Anonymous
04/24/2020 11:50
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your friend mention if there will be tiers in the MLS league?
He said that was possible and still being discussed, but that for Fall 2020 groupings would more likely be based on geography so that no hotel stays were required for games or tournaments.
So U15 and U17 teams for DCU and Arlington, SAC and Bethesda. The world could have been much, much more interesting. This seems pretty lame. At least the U12 attemot at this had Loudoun, Penn Classics and Richmond as well, and even that should have and could have been much better given other boys clubs in the area. Pass.
I thought that the concentration of talent in a few cubs was the ultimate objective.
I assume that it is now considered "lame" as it is leaving the ECNL boys as a third best.
Anyway, not much point in speculating, nothing is decided.
So why not have DCU, then simply have them play each of the best boys teams in their age group in the area each year? This is a joke if you want the best playing the best on the boys side. And the MLS itself has said U15 and U17. I am only assuming they are doing what has been publicly confirmed. Of course, if they just wanted to get rid of DAs simply to ditch girls DA, and then set up essentially the same thing only for boys (with fewer teams), I think they were being advised by the same idiotic lawyers litigating against the women’s team. So I do assume they won’t simply recreate the DA for boys, though I am sure that gives a lot of comfort to non-MLS DAs.
This article implies that the intention of the new MLS league is to be inclusive of all former DA teams:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020/04/18/mls-youth-league-reaches-out-da-colleagues-its-not-time-exclude-it-s-time-include%3famp
Anonymous
04/24/2020 11:48
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
All I can tell you is that my friend was on a call with the owner of his DA Club. The owner said that the new MLS league would field U13-19 teams in the Fall and that all former DA clubs had been invited to participate. The new league would basically be DA, without the name and the Clubs that had already fled to ECNL in a panic, although he had heard that a few were trying to back out of their commitment to play in the ECNL. My friend has a son that will play U13 in the Fall, so I know that he asked that question. He also has a daughter that plays DA at the same Club and they were told that the MLS is boys only and the girls were still TBD.
Anonymous
04/24/2020 11:42
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your friend mention if there will be tiers in the MLS league?
He said that was possible and still being discussed, but that for Fall 2020 groupings would more likely be based on geography so that no hotel stays were required for games or tournaments.
So U15 and U17 teams for DCU and Arlington, SAC and Bethesda. The world could have been much, much more interesting. This seems pretty lame. At least the U12 attemot at this had Loudoun, Penn Classics and Richmond as well, and even that should have and could have been much better given other boys clubs in the area. Pass.
I thought that the concentration of talent in a few cubs was the ultimate objective.
I assume that it is now considered "lame" as it is leaving the ECNL boys as a third best.
Anyway, not much point in speculating, nothing is decided.
So why not have DCU, then simply have them play each of the best boys teams in their age group in the area each year? This is a joke if you want the best playing the best on the boys side. And the MLS itself has said U15 and U17. I am only assuming they are doing what has been publicly confirmed. Of course, if they just wanted to get rid of DAs simply to ditch girls DA, and then set up essentially the same thing only for boys (with fewer teams), I think they were being advised by the same idiotic lawyers litigating against the women’s team. So I do assume they won’t simply recreate the DA for boys, though I am sure that gives a lot of comfort to non-MLS DAs.
Anonymous
04/24/2020 11:32
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your friend mention if there will be tiers in the MLS league?
He said that was possible and still being discussed, but that for Fall 2020 groupings would more likely be based on geography so that no hotel stays were required for games or tournaments.
So U15 and U17 teams for DCU and Arlington, SAC and Bethesda. The world could have been much, much more interesting. This seems pretty lame. At least the U12 attemot at this had Loudoun, Penn Classics and Richmond as well, and even that should have and could have been much better given other boys clubs in the area. Pass.
No, read above. MLS league for boys U13-19, not just U15 and U17.
Anonymous
04/24/2020 11:15
Subject: Any word from Arlington?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your friend mention if there will be tiers in the MLS league?
He said that was possible and still being discussed, but that for Fall 2020 groupings would more likely be based on geography so that no hotel stays were required for games or tournaments.
So U15 and U17 teams for DCU and Arlington, SAC and Bethesda. The world could have been much, much more interesting. This seems pretty lame. At least the U12 attemot at this had Loudoun, Penn Classics and Richmond as well, and even that should have and could have been much better given other boys clubs in the area. Pass.
I thought that the concentration of talent in a few cubs was the ultimate objective.
I assume that it is now considered "lame" as it is leaving the ECNL boys as a third best.
Anyway, not much point in speculating, nothing is decided.