Large magazines
Gat cranks

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Anonymous wrote:The General Assembly is the legislative branch of the Virginia government that makes state laws.
It is divided into two parts — the Senate and the House of Delegates.
Democrats control both the state Senate and the House of Delegates.
If a gun control bill get passed by both houses
of the General Assembly and sent to the Governor for approval who then signs the bill into law...then what?

What you gonna do?

Not even a hypothetical...

Senate just passed three bills yesterday.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/851968.page

Don’t worry. First court case is already being appealed. If that is not overturned it will go up to SCOTUS eventually. The constitution will win out. Meanwhile a bunch of time and money will have been wasted.

Scalia would disagree.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose”
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

#themoreYOUknow

Not so fast..... what else did he say in Heller?

Scalia said "guns in common-use are protected"


Ponder that as you consider that the AR-15 rifle is THE most common rifle in the United States. There are more AR-15's than minivans - ALL minivans - that have ever been built by all the car companies who build a model of minivan.

The AR-15 is literally the definition of "in common use"

OK. And?

I'm not pushing to ban all AR-15s - just some components.

Yeah? What components, exactly?

The Lower? The FCG? The Upper? The buffer tube? The BCG?

Which components, exactly? Do tell!

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What “question”? Your absurd hypothetical that isn’t based on reality at all?

The answer is “no”. I don’t think that because it’s not true. I don’t want to take away all guns. I just want common sense legislation and law enforcement of existing laws.

Is that clear enough for you, paranoid nutter?

Yep. All you want is "common sense gun safety legislation".

The only problem there is that your definition of "common sense legislation" is "let's melt them all down and make them into manhole covers".

Liar. That is not my definition.

Nope. There are plenty of your comrades who define it exactly that way. There are other threads here chocked full of posts saying exactly that.

The extremists have taken over the message of your movement. You may indeed be a reasonable, middle of the road advocate for gun safety laws. But it doesn't matter. Your voice is lost in the cacophony of the masses of lunatics screaming for every single gun in the country to be seized and destroyed. Those folks are carrying the message - not you.

Take it up with them. They're the ones who defined *reasonable commonsense gun safety* as a ban on all guns.

They said it. I take them at their word.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The General Assembly is the legislative branch of the Virginia government that makes state laws.
It is divided into two parts — the Senate and the House of Delegates.
Democrats control both the state Senate and the House of Delegates.
If a gun control bill get passed by both houses
of the General Assembly and sent to the Governor for approval who then signs the bill into law...then what?

What you gonna do?

Not even a hypothetical...

Senate just passed three bills yesterday.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/851968.page

Don’t worry. First court case is already being appealed. If that is not overturned it will go up to SCOTUS eventually. The constitution will win out. Meanwhile a bunch of time and money will have been wasted.

Scalia would disagree.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose”
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

#themoreYOUknow

Not so fast..... what else did he say in Heller?

Scalia said "guns in common-use are protected"


Ponder that as you consider that the AR-15 rifle is THE most common rifle in the United States. There are more AR-15's than minivans - ALL minivans - that have ever been built by all the car companies who build a model of minivan.

The AR-15 is literally the definition of "in common use"

In common ownership, but in common use?

Would you please explain what you think the distinction there is? The difference between "in common use" and "common ownership"?

Lolz! I can't WAIT to hear this one!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

What “question”? Your absurd hypothetical that isn’t based on reality at all?

The answer is “no”. I don’t think that because it’s not true. I don’t want to take away all guns. I just want common sense legislation and law enforcement of existing laws.

Is that clear enough for you, paranoid nutter?

Yep. All you want is "common sense gun safety legislation".

The only problem there is that your definition of "common sense legislation" is "let's melt them all down and make them into manhole covers".

Liar. That is not my definition.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The General Assembly is the legislative branch of the Virginia government that makes state laws.
It is divided into two parts — the Senate and the House of Delegates.
Democrats control both the state Senate and the House of Delegates.
If a gun control bill get passed by both houses
of the General Assembly and sent to the Governor for approval who then signs the bill into law...then what?

What you gonna do?

Not even a hypothetical...

Senate just passed three bills yesterday.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/851968.page

Don’t worry. First court case is already being appealed. If that is not overturned it will go up to SCOTUS eventually. The constitution will win out. Meanwhile a bunch of time and money will have been wasted.

Scalia would disagree.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose”
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

#themoreYOUknow

Not so fast..... what else did he say in Heller?

Scalia said "guns in common-use are protected"


Ponder that as you consider that the AR-15 rifle is THE most common rifle in the United States. There are more AR-15's than minivans - ALL minivans - that have ever been built by all the car companies who build a model of minivan.

The AR-15 is literally the definition of "in common use"

In common ownership, but in common use?

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What “question”? Your absurd hypothetical that isn’t based on reality at all?

The answer is “no”. I don’t think that because it’s not true. I don’t want to take away all guns. I just want common sense legislation and law enforcement of existing laws.

Is that clear enough for you, paranoid nutter?

Yep. All you want is "common sense gun safety legislation".

The only problem there is that your definition of "common sense legislation" is "let's melt them all down and make them into manhole covers".

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Anonymous wrote:You sound paranoid. Mental illness is no joke. Someone should take away YOUR guns. Most everyone else is ok though.

So you're not gonna address the question, huh?

Ok. Just so everyone sees that.

What “question”? Your absurd hypothetical that isn’t based on reality at all?

The answer is “no”. I don’t think that because it’s not true. I don’t want to take away all guns. I just want common sense legislation and law enforcement of existing laws.

Is that clear enough for you, paranoid nutter?

So, in your own words, in the post you just wrote, first you say "no one is going to take your guns", then you say "you want common sense laws", which as we're told by the people who define what "common sense laws" mean, means a ban on the most commonly guns owned today (semiautomatic pistols and rifles)

So first you say you're not taking guns away, and then in the very next sentence, say you want laws that will take guns away.

I mean.... seriously?

Why are you making so many ignorant assumptions about me?

I support common sense gun laws. Here are some that I've posted several times before:
https://www.bradyunited.org/legislation

But please try to tell me what I believe.


You seem aggressive, irrational, and paranoid. I definitely have concerns about YOU having guns.

"Common sense gun laws" are defined by those who advocate for them, as laws that would ban the most commonly owned guns in America (semiautomatic handguns, shotguns and rifles). "Common sense gun laws" would ban probably 70-75% of all guns.

That's not "common sense". That's extreme.

You can call me all the names you want, it doesn't make it so. Anyone following our little dialogue here can plainly see that I'm niether aggressive, paranoid, nor irrational.

But they do see you as someone who denies, deflects and disparages when you can't make an effective argument.

Now, call me some more names. It's all you've got.

Citation for the bolded comment ("ban 70-75% of all guns")?

Sure seems like you aren't very familiar with "common sense gun laws"...

75% of firearms sold since 1970 are semiautomatic.

OK. And?

I'm not pushing to ban semi-automatic.

2A nutters are scary....


Virginia Lawmaker Will Spend Pro-Gun Rally In Safe House Following Death Threats
https://wamu.org/story/20/01/16/virginia-lawmaker-opts-for-safe-house-over-state-house-during-pro-gun-rally/

The threats against Carter—a Democratic Socialist first elected in 2017—also show how an echo chamber of conspiracy theories that begin as social media posts get laundered into mainstream outlets like the Wall Street Journal, and can ultimately lead to real-world peril.

Monday’s rally is a tradition for the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a pro-gun group that lobbies each year in Richmond on Martin Luther King Jr. Day while bearing arms. But this year, a large number of armed militia groups have pledged to join the rally. Northam tweeted that “intelligence suggests militia groups and hate groups, some from out of state, plan to come to the Capitol to disrupt our democratic process with acts of violence.”

At least some of the people who say they’re coming have described it as a “boogaloo,” a word used by the far-right to describe a violent civil war, according to the Daily Beast. This morning, the Federal Bureau of Investigation arrested three suspected members of a neo-Nazi hate group who were considering going to Virginia’s capital for the rally and had more than 1,500 rounds of rifle ammunition, per prosecutors, the New York Times reported.

As these protesters get ready to descend on Richmond, Carter is planning to be at an undisclosed location amid concerns over his safety.

“People were threatening to murder me and murder my family over something I’m not even doing,” Carter tells DCist from Richmond on Wednesday evening. “These threats are more hateful and more numerous than anything I’ve seen before. I mean, I’m the only socialist elected to a legislature in the south, so I do occasionally get waves of death threats—about every two three months it’ll happen—but this one is far larger and far more serious than anything I’ve seen before by orders of magnitude.” Carter has reported the threats to the Virginia Capitol Police.
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“You have to acknowledge sort of the disconnect between what the extreme right has been telling themselves and reality,” says Carter. “There are people out there who have been telling themselves since the 90s that the government is trying to take your guns to start enabling tyranny. And many of those folks are very heavily armed and are on sort of a hair trigger … There’s a lot of people out there that uncritically believe whatever they hear, as long as it confirms their biases.”


Yikes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound paranoid. Mental illness is no joke. Someone should take away YOUR guns. Most everyone else is ok though.

So you're not gonna address the question, huh?

Ok. Just so everyone sees that.

What “question”? Your absurd hypothetical that isn’t based on reality at all?

The answer is “no”. I don’t think that because it’s not true. I don’t want to take away all guns. I just want common sense legislation and law enforcement of existing laws.

Is that clear enough for you, paranoid nutter?

So, in your own words, in the post you just wrote, first you say "no one is going to take your guns", then you say "you want common sense laws", which as we're told by the people who define what "common sense laws" mean, means a ban on the most commonly guns owned today (semiautomatic pistols and rifles)

So first you say you're not taking guns away, and then in the very next sentence, say you want laws that will take guns away.

I mean.... seriously?

Why are you making so many ignorant assumptions about me?

I support common sense gun laws. Here are some that I've posted several times before:
https://www.bradyunited.org/legislation

But please try to tell me what I believe.


You seem aggressive, irrational, and paranoid. I definitely have concerns about YOU having guns.

"Common sense gun laws" are defined by those who advocate for them, as laws that would ban the most commonly owned guns in America (semiautomatic handguns, shotguns and rifles). "Common sense gun laws" would ban probably 70-75% of all guns.

That's not "common sense". That's extreme.

You can call me all the names you want, it doesn't make it so. Anyone following our little dialogue here can plainly see that I'm niether aggressive, paranoid, nor irrational.

But they do see you as someone who denies, deflects and disparages when you can't make an effective argument.

Now, call me some more names. It's all you've got.

Citation for the bolded comment ("ban 70-75% of all guns")?

Sure seems like you aren't very familiar with "common sense gun laws"...

75% of firearms sold since 1970 are semiautomatic.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The General Assembly is the legislative branch of the Virginia government that makes state laws.
It is divided into two parts — the Senate and the House of Delegates.
Democrats control both the state Senate and the House of Delegates.
If a gun control bill get passed by both houses
of the General Assembly and sent to the Governor for approval who then signs the bill into law...then what?

What you gonna do?

Not even a hypothetical...

Senate just passed three bills yesterday.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/851968.page

Don’t worry. First court case is already being appealed. If that is not overturned it will go up to SCOTUS eventually. The constitution will win out. Meanwhile a bunch of time and money will have been wasted.

Scalia would disagree.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose”
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

#themoreYOUknow

Not so fast..... what else did he say in Heller?

Scalia said "guns in common-use are protected"


Ponder that as you consider that the AR-15 rifle is THE most common rifle in the United States. There are more AR-15's than minivans - ALL minivans - that have ever been built by all the car companies who build a model of minivan.

The AR-15 is literally the definition of "in common use"

OK. And?

I'm not pushing to ban all AR-15s - just some components.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound paranoid. Mental illness is no joke. Someone should take away YOUR guns. Most everyone else is ok though.

So you're not gonna address the question, huh?

Ok. Just so everyone sees that.

What “question”? Your absurd hypothetical that isn’t based on reality at all?

The answer is “no”. I don’t think that because it’s not true. I don’t want to take away all guns. I just want common sense legislation and law enforcement of existing laws.

Is that clear enough for you, paranoid nutter?

So, in your own words, in the post you just wrote, first you say "no one is going to take your guns", then you say "you want common sense laws", which as we're told by the people who define what "common sense laws" mean, means a ban on the most commonly guns owned today (semiautomatic pistols and rifles)

So first you say you're not taking guns away, and then in the very next sentence, say you want laws that will take guns away.

I mean.... seriously?

Why are you making so many ignorant assumptions about me?

I support common sense gun laws. Here are some that I've posted several times before:
https://www.bradyunited.org/legislation

But please try to tell me what I believe.


You seem aggressive, irrational, and paranoid. I definitely have concerns about YOU having guns.

"Common sense gun laws" are defined by those who advocate for them, as laws that would ban the most commonly owned guns in America (semiautomatic handguns, shotguns and rifles). "Common sense gun laws" would ban probably 70-75% of all guns.

That's not "common sense". That's extreme.

You can call me all the names you want, it doesn't make it so. Anyone following our little dialogue here can plainly see that I'm niether aggressive, paranoid, nor irrational.

But they do see you as someone who denies, deflects and disparages when you can't make an effective argument.

Now, call me some more names. It's all you've got.

Citation for the bolded comment ("ban 70-75% of all guns")?

Sure seems like you aren't very familiar with "common sense gun laws"...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The General Assembly is the legislative branch of the Virginia government that makes state laws.
It is divided into two parts — the Senate and the House of Delegates.
Democrats control both the state Senate and the House of Delegates.
If a gun control bill get passed by both houses
of the General Assembly and sent to the Governor for approval who then signs the bill into law...then what?

What you gonna do?

Not even a hypothetical...

Senate just passed three bills yesterday.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/851968.page

Don’t worry. First court case is already being appealed. If that is not overturned it will go up to SCOTUS eventually. The constitution will win out. Meanwhile a bunch of time and money will have been wasted.

Scalia would disagree.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose”
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

#themoreYOUknow

Not so fast..... what else did he say in Heller?

Scalia said "guns in common-use are protected"


Ponder that as you consider that the AR-15 rifle is THE most common rifle in the United States. There are more AR-15's than minivans - ALL minivans - that have ever been built by all the car companies who build a model of minivan.

The AR-15 is literally the definition of "in common use"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound paranoid. Mental illness is no joke. Someone should take away YOUR guns. Most everyone else is ok though.

So you're not gonna address the question, huh?

Ok. Just so everyone sees that.

What “question”? Your absurd hypothetical that isn’t based on reality at all?

The answer is “no”. I don’t think that because it’s not true. I don’t want to take away all guns. I just want common sense legislation and law enforcement of existing laws.

Is that clear enough for you, paranoid nutter?

So, in your own words, in the post you just wrote, first you say "no one is going to take your guns", then you say "you want common sense laws", which as we're told by the people who define what "common sense laws" mean, means a ban on the most commonly guns owned today (semiautomatic pistols and rifles)

So first you say you're not taking guns away, and then in the very next sentence, say you want laws that will take guns away.

I mean.... seriously?

Why are you making so many ignorant assumptions about me?

I support common sense gun laws. Here are some that I've posted several times before:
https://www.bradyunited.org/legislation

But please try to tell me what I believe.


You seem aggressive, irrational, and paranoid. I definitely have concerns about YOU having guns.

"Common sense gun laws" are defined by those who advocate for them, as laws that would ban the most commonly owned guns in America (semiautomatic handguns, shotguns and rifles). "Common sense gun laws" would ban probably 70-75% of all guns.

That's not "common sense". That's extreme.

You can call me all the names you want, it doesn't make it so. Anyone following our little dialogue here can plainly see that I'm niether aggressive, paranoid, nor irrational.

But they do see you as someone who denies, deflects and disparages when you can't make an effective argument.

Now, call me some more names. It's all you've got.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The General Assembly is the legislative branch of the Virginia government that makes state laws.
It is divided into two parts — the Senate and the House of Delegates.
Democrats control both the state Senate and the House of Delegates.
If a gun control bill get passed by both houses
of the General Assembly and sent to the Governor for approval who then signs the bill into law...then what?

What you gonna do?

Not even a hypothetical...

Senate just passed three bills yesterday.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/851968.page

Don’t worry. First court case is already being appealed. If that is not overturned it will go up to SCOTUS eventually. The constitution will win out. Meanwhile a bunch of time and money will have been wasted.

Scalia would disagree.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose”
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

#themoreYOUknow