Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 13:42     Subject: Re:Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
"Parnas . . . sought Congressman-1's assistance is causing the U.S. Government to recall or remove the then-US Ambassador to the Ukriane" -- page 8 of the indictment

Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 13:38     Subject: Re:Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The plot thickens. It's an SDNY case - the same SDNY that argued last week that POTUS can't be prosecuted for ANY crimes.

And Parnas (maybe Fruman too?) was supposed to be deposed by the House Intelligence Comm today for the impeachment inquiry.

https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/documents/20190930%20-%20Parnas%20Letter%20and%20Doc%20Request%20Schedule.pdf

So maybe SDNY is doing someone a favor?


But it isn't a constitutional crisis, right? Just business as usual?

I'm ready for barr to be disbarred and go to prison.


I posted this last comment, but now I am reading that their lawyer said they weren't planning to testify, and that they were about to get on a flight out of the US. So IDK what is going on. It is good they were arrested but I think they need to testify before congress. If they are in federal custody, can congress compel them to testify?


Wait, they will have to surrender passports, right?

A few days ago when Rick Perry's name came up with all this I remember Trump saying something about don't worry, he was just talking to Ukraine about LNG (liquified natural gas), which according to the indictment for these guys is the "purported" work of their company.

https://www.scribd.com/document/429645062/U-S-v-Lev-Parnas-Et-Al-Indictment
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 13:33     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Marcy Wheeler:

If you put Parnas/Fruman indictment, Dowd letter affirming Rudy and Parnas were working for Trump, and the Trump-Zelenskyy "transcript" together, it's hard to see how Trump's comments about Yovanovitch aren't part of conspiracy charged in the indictment.


You'll have to break it down for me. Why was she in the way?


Because she wouldn't facilitate Rudy's "work" when he would come to the Ukraine to dig up dirt on the Bidens. She wasn't playing ball.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 13:29     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Marcy Wheeler:

If you put Parnas/Fruman indictment, Dowd letter affirming Rudy and Parnas were working for Trump, and the Trump-Zelenskyy "transcript" together, it's hard to see how Trump's comments about Yovanovitch aren't part of conspiracy charged in the indictment.


You'll have to break it down for me. Why was she in the way?
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 13:16     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Marcy Wheeler:

If you put Parnas/Fruman indictment, Dowd letter affirming Rudy and Parnas were working for Trump, and the Trump-Zelenskyy "transcript" together, it's hard to see how Trump's comments about Yovanovitch aren't part of conspiracy charged in the indictment.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 13:03     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Paul Manafort’s defense attorneys are helping Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman today at their initial criminal appearance at EDVA. CNN's @kpolantz spotted Manafort's attorneys Kevin Downing and Tom Zehnle at the courthouse. (Zehnle said he was just here to help out for the time being.)

-Marshall Cohen
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 12:48     Subject: Re:Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Also donated $50K to Ron DeSantis' governor race last year and co-hosted a fundraiser with Don Jr and Judge Jeanine.

Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 12:45     Subject: Re:Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Barr et al are trying to pin everything on Rudy. Argument will be, poor President Trump was taken in by that wily Rudy.


This does appear to be the case.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 12:43     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
EVERY TIME I DO IT MAKES ME LAUGH
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 12:42     Subject: Re:Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Barr et al are trying to pin everything on Rudy. Argument will be, poor President Trump was taken in by that wily Rudy.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 12:42     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
LOOK AT THIS PHOTOGRAPH
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 12:40     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Just re-surfacing this article from *checks calendar,* last week...

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/03/ukraine-scandal-digenova-toensing-022049
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 12:35     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
This whole thread

https://twitter.com/thegarance/status/1182328487295754246

And Nick Ayer's, formerly of Pence world, is implicated.

The whole administration is rotten.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 12:28     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
No plausible deniability from Trump

https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/meet-the-florida-duo-helping-giuliani-dig-dirt-for-trump-in-ukraine
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2019 12:24     Subject: Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Okay. Info from CNN

$350,000 in Russian money illegally funneled to a Trump 2020 super pac with a ton of former Trump Admin officials running it

Plus $10,000 in Russian money to Pete Sessions in 2018 (R, TX, lost his seat) to remove US ambassador to Ukraine.

SDNY. Barr signed off.

Frankly, jaw dropping

Sure, Ghouliani is the genius. He connected these folks. He’s going to jail.


I think Barr is in CYA mode. He has deniability on Ukraine, except he sat on the whistleblower report that he never should have seen, for three weeks. But otherwise, this is a way of neutralizing Rudy. While it may take Trump down, it won't take Barr down, so he is good with it.