Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 23:29     Subject: Re:Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:Its really weird how it seems to be the parents choice. Obviously elementary and maybe more child input for middle, but we definitely gave our child final say for high school.


It never even occurred to me that a kid would have more of a say than the parent when it comes to HS, unless there is a very strong specific interest. It's interesting to hear that others have the opposite viewpoint. I keep coming back to, these are just kids - why are we saddling them with this responsibility?
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 17:06     Subject: Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think that people who pretend that the school choices they make for their children are choices primarily about them and their own political needs and ego are pretty much jerks.

You are making choices for your kids. Once they can make their own choices, those choices should be theirs to make.

In my mind, it's fine to make broader generalization about which schools are best for society in general. But to disregard one's own children's needs, explicitly and entirely, in the process is narcissistic.


But this exactly what Joe didn’t do- force his policy beliefs on his daughter- and he’s getting crap for it. He allowed his high schooler to decide for herself. How does that make him a hypocrite? 10 pages into this thread and I’m still waiting for a rational response.

PP, I would invite you to re-read the article and copy the paragraph where it says he is allowing her to make the choice about which high school she will attend. We’ll wait, even it takes another 10 pages for you to find it.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 17:01     Subject: Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think that people who pretend that the school choices they make for their children are choices primarily about them and their own political needs and ego are pretty much jerks.

You are making choices for your kids. Once they can make their own choices, those choices should be theirs to make.

In my mind, it's fine to make broader generalization about which schools are best for society in general. But to disregard one's own children's needs, explicitly and entirely, in the process is narcissistic.


But this exactly what Joe didn’t do- force his policy beliefs on his daughter- and he’s getting crap for it. He allowed his high schooler to decide for herself. How does that make him a hypocrite? 10 pages into this thread and I’m still waiting for a rational response.


He never said he is letting her decide for herself. At least not in the article. And if you check out his Twitter feed it's more 'oh choice is so hard...."
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 16:58     Subject: Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:I think that people who pretend that the school choices they make for their children are choices primarily about them and their own political needs and ego are pretty much jerks.

You are making choices for your kids. Once they can make their own choices, those choices should be theirs to make.

In my mind, it's fine to make broader generalization about which schools are best for society in general. But to disregard one's own children's needs, explicitly and entirely, in the process is narcissistic.


But this exactly what Joe didn’t do- force his policy beliefs on his daughter- and he’s getting crap for it. He allowed his high schooler to decide for herself. How does that make him a hypocrite? 10 pages into this thread and I’m still waiting for a rational response.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 15:51     Subject: Re:Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the PPs^^ and I’ve never felt insecure about the decisions I made for my kids for school. What I’ve said - and others have too - is that Joe was so smug, sure of his viewpoint, clear-eyed, and judgmental about our decision-making. I think I used the word “disdain” about his negativity in those circumstances. What goes around, come around. Now he’s not so clear-eyed or sure when it’s his own kid. The article is his way of pretend, self-flagellation. They had already decided Malia is going to Walls.


Evidence to the contrary. What you are writing comes off as very personal. Why on earth do you care? Why spend a minute carrying that much emotion or feeling his disdain? If you were my kid I'd be telling you that you are responsible for giving others power over you. Also, your certainty regarding what his ultimate decision was or is makes you no different or better than the smugness disdain or certainly that you so disliked coming from him.

Were you not so emotionally invested in this Wheedon character you might be able to see that.


I don't know Wheedon and my kid goes to a strong IB school, so I have no direct or indirect go in this fight. But I really don't get your logic that being annoyed at hypocrisy shows insecurity about choices others have made. That doesn't make sense to me.

I can very easily see why someone would be annoyed by someone who sanctimoniously criticized acted like anyone who went charter was doing something wrong and now, when faced with the same dilemma others had before, he realizes the choice isn't so easy and he does it in a very public forum.

I am annoyed at some friends who are very outspoken about immigrant rights and $15/hr living wage who turn around and higher a nanny here illegal under the table at $10/hr. My annoyance at their hypocrisy doesn't mean that I am insecure about my decision to hire a legal nanny for $20/hr. One simply doesn't follow from the other.


People aren’t illegal, they are undocumented.


I agree with the PP's post you are responding to. And if you read carefully, they didn't call anyone illegal. The adjective referred to the work status, not the person.


Right, it says "here illegall[y]." That clearly refers to their status in the country, not their status as a human being.

I just got a visa for a foreign trip. If I either entered without a visa or overstayed my visa, I would be "there illegally" and it is no different than someone here in the US.

If you are going to try to be the word police, please have the decency to read the post you are trying to correct.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 15:14     Subject: Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

I think that people who pretend that the school choices they make for their children are choices primarily about them and their own political needs and ego are pretty much jerks.

You are making choices for your kids. Once they can make their own choices, those choices should be theirs to make.

In my mind, it's fine to make broader generalization about which schools are best for society in general. But to disregard one's own children's needs, explicitly and entirely, in the process is narcissistic.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 10:14     Subject: Re:Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the PPs^^ and I’ve never felt insecure about the decisions I made for my kids for school. What I’ve said - and others have too - is that Joe was so smug, sure of his viewpoint, clear-eyed, and judgmental about our decision-making. I think I used the word “disdain” about his negativity in those circumstances. What goes around, come around. Now he’s not so clear-eyed or sure when it’s his own kid. The article is his way of pretend, self-flagellation. They had already decided Malia is going to Walls.


Evidence to the contrary. What you are writing comes off as very personal. Why on earth do you care? Why spend a minute carrying that much emotion or feeling his disdain? If you were my kid I'd be telling you that you are responsible for giving others power over you. Also, your certainty regarding what his ultimate decision was or is makes you no different or better than the smugness disdain or certainly that you so disliked coming from him.

Were you not so emotionally invested in this Wheedon character you might be able to see that.


I don't know Wheedon and my kid goes to a strong IB school, so I have no direct or indirect go in this fight. But I really don't get your logic that being annoyed at hypocrisy shows insecurity about choices others have made. That doesn't make sense to me.

I can very easily see why someone would be annoyed by someone who sanctimoniously criticized acted like anyone who went charter was doing something wrong and now, when faced with the same dilemma others had before, he realizes the choice isn't so easy and he does it in a very public forum.

I am annoyed at some friends who are very outspoken about immigrant rights and $15/hr living wage who turn around and higher a nanny here illegal under the table at $10/hr. My annoyance at their hypocrisy doesn't mean that I am insecure about my decision to hire a legal nanny for $20/hr. One simply doesn't follow from the other.


People aren’t illegal, they are undocumented.


I agree with the PP's post you are responding to. And if you read carefully, they didn't call anyone illegal. The adjective referred to the work status, not the person.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2019 23:47     Subject: Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:Mr. Weedon has worked tirelessly and as we can see thanklessly on improving DCPS schools.

Can we all agree on that?



No- because he made anti charter choices. There should be more test in magnets.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2019 23:45     Subject: Re:Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the PPs^^ and I’ve never felt insecure about the decisions I made for my kids for school. What I’ve said - and others have too - is that Joe was so smug, sure of his viewpoint, clear-eyed, and judgmental about our decision-making. I think I used the word “disdain” about his negativity in those circumstances. What goes around, come around. Now he’s not so clear-eyed or sure when it’s his own kid. The article is his way of pretend, self-flagellation. They had already decided Malia is going to Walls.


Evidence to the contrary. What you are writing comes off as very personal. Why on earth do you care? Why spend a minute carrying that much emotion or feeling his disdain? If you were my kid I'd be telling you that you are responsible for giving others power over you. Also, your certainty regarding what his ultimate decision was or is makes you no different or better than the smugness disdain or certainly that you so disliked coming from him.

Were you not so emotionally invested in this Wheedon character you might be able to see that.


I don't know Wheedon and my kid goes to a strong IB school, so I have no direct or indirect go in this fight. But I really don't get your logic that being annoyed at hypocrisy shows insecurity about choices others have made. That doesn't make sense to me.

I can very easily see why someone would be annoyed by someone who sanctimoniously criticized acted like anyone who went charter was doing something wrong and now, when faced with the same dilemma others had before, he realizes the choice isn't so easy and he does it in a very public forum.

I am annoyed at some friends who are very outspoken about immigrant rights and $15/hr living wage who turn around and higher a nanny here illegal under the table at $10/hr. My annoyance at their hypocrisy doesn't mean that I am insecure about my decision to hire a legal nanny for $20/hr. One simply doesn't follow from the other.


People aren’t illegal, they are undocumented.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2019 21:14     Subject: Re:Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the PPs^^ and I’ve never felt insecure about the decisions I made for my kids for school. What I’ve said - and others have too - is that Joe was so smug, sure of his viewpoint, clear-eyed, and judgmental about our decision-making. I think I used the word “disdain” about his negativity in those circumstances. What goes around, come around. Now he’s not so clear-eyed or sure when it’s his own kid. The article is his way of pretend, self-flagellation. They had already decided Malia is going to Walls.


Evidence to the contrary. What you are writing comes off as very personal. Why on earth do you care? Why spend a minute carrying that much emotion or feeling his disdain? If you were my kid I'd be telling you that you are responsible for giving others power over you. Also, your certainty regarding what his ultimate decision was or is makes you no different or better than the smugness disdain or certainly that you so disliked coming from him.

Were you not so emotionally invested in this Wheedon character you might be able to see that.


I don't know Wheedon and my kid goes to a strong IB school, so I have no direct or indirect go in this fight. But I really don't get your logic that being annoyed at hypocrisy shows insecurity about choices others have made. That doesn't make sense to me.

I can very easily see why someone would be annoyed by someone who sanctimoniously criticized acted like anyone who went charter was doing something wrong and now, when faced with the same dilemma others had before, he realizes the choice isn't so easy and he does it in a very public forum.

I am annoyed at some friends who are very outspoken about immigrant rights and $15/hr living wage who turn around and higher a nanny here illegal under the table at $10/hr. My annoyance at their hypocrisy doesn't mean that I am insecure about my decision to hire a legal nanny for $20/hr. One simply doesn't follow from the other.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2019 20:15     Subject: Re:Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the PPs^^ and I’ve never felt insecure about the decisions I made for my kids for school. What I’ve said - and others have too - is that Joe was so smug, sure of his viewpoint, clear-eyed, and judgmental about our decision-making. I think I used the word “disdain” about his negativity in those circumstances. What goes around, come around. Now he’s not so clear-eyed or sure when it’s his own kid. The article is his way of pretend, self-flagellation. They had already decided Malia is going to Walls.


Evidence to the contrary. What you are writing comes off as very personal. Why on earth do you care? Why spend a minute carrying that much emotion or feeling his disdain? If you were my kid I'd be telling you that you are responsible for giving others power over you. Also, your certainty regarding what his ultimate decision was or is makes you no different or better than the smugness disdain or certainly that you so disliked coming from him.

Were you not so emotionally invested in this Wheedon character you might be able to see that.

This is such a cop-out. "I can say all sorts of problematic things and call other people racist, etc. for making decisions for their children but if they feel insecure due to my words IT'S ON THEM!!!"
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2019 19:33     Subject: Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:Mr. Weedon has worked tirelessly and as we can see thanklessly on improving DCPS schools.

Can we all agree on that?



To what effect? Not a facetious question.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2019 19:31     Subject: Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Mr. Weedon has worked tirelessly and as we can see thanklessly on improving DCPS schools.

Can we all agree on that?

Anonymous
Post 04/20/2019 19:14     Subject: Re:Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

Anonymous wrote:I’m one of the PPs^^ and I’ve never felt insecure about the decisions I made for my kids for school. What I’ve said - and others have too - is that Joe was so smug, sure of his viewpoint, clear-eyed, and judgmental about our decision-making. I think I used the word “disdain” about his negativity in those circumstances. What goes around, come around. Now he’s not so clear-eyed or sure when it’s his own kid. The article is his way of pretend, self-flagellation. They had already decided Malia is going to Walls.


Evidence to the contrary. What you are writing comes off as very personal. Why on earth do you care? Why spend a minute carrying that much emotion or feeling his disdain? If you were my kid I'd be telling you that you are responsible for giving others power over you. Also, your certainty regarding what his ultimate decision was or is makes you no different or better than the smugness disdain or certainly that you so disliked coming from him.

Were you not so emotionally invested in this Wheedon character you might be able to see that.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2019 19:00     Subject: Re:Joe Weedon wants permission to send his daughter to Walls

I’m one of the PPs^^ and I’ve never felt insecure about the decisions I made for my kids for school. What I’ve said - and others have too - is that Joe was so smug, sure of his viewpoint, clear-eyed, and judgmental about our decision-making. I think I used the word “disdain” about his negativity in those circumstances. What goes around, come around. Now he’s not so clear-eyed or sure when it’s his own kid. The article is his way of pretend, self-flagellation. They had already decided Malia is going to Walls.