Anonymous
12/21/2022 08:46
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speaking as one who hates Trump: Congress using its authority to make his tax returns public sets a terrible precedent. I would have been fine if Congress had made a law requiring that future presidential candidates or presidents make their tax returns public, but they didn't do that. Trump was within his rights to not provide them to the public (he lied about the reasons why, but that is not particularly relevant here). I agree with those that say that he should have made a different choice, but he didn't.
Congress has (and should have) the right of access to indivudal tax returns in order to prevent fraud, but this is an abuse of that right. It does nothing to prevent fraud, and it decreases the chance that the Supreme Court will side with Congress in the future on such matters, now that there is a history of abuse.
To add to this......
The job of Congress is to legislate. I fail to see any legislative purpose for obtaining the tax returns or releasing them publicly.
Then you’re not looking. They clearly found that the recommendation that all Presidents be audited while in office wasn’t working and it will need be made into law to be followed.
Anonymous
12/21/2022 08:30
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speaking as one who hates Trump: Congress using its authority to make his tax returns public sets a terrible precedent. I would have been fine if Congress had made a law requiring that future presidential candidates or presidents make their tax returns public, but they didn't do that. Trump was within his rights to not provide them to the public (he lied about the reasons why, but that is not particularly relevant here). I agree with those that say that he should have made a different choice, but he didn't.
Congress has (and should have) the right of access to indivudal tax returns in order to prevent fraud, but this is an abuse of that right. It does nothing to prevent fraud, and it decreases the chance that the Supreme Court will side with Congress in the future on such matters, now that there is a history of abuse.
To add to this......
The job of Congress is to legislate. I fail to see any legislative purpose for obtaining the tax returns or releasing them publicly.
Their purpose is also to provide oversight over the Executive branch. That's why.
Providing oversight of the executive branch is not the same as investigating the personal tax returns of someone who works in the executive branch.
Anonymous
12/21/2022 08:21
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Add the IRS to the list of agencies infiltrated by right wingers…
Wow. Trump promised to release his taxes during the campaign, but didn't. Then, when he got elected, when pressed for it, he claimed he couldn't, because they were "under audit." That was a lie. A lie because there would have been nothing stopping Trump from releasing them regardless of any audit, and a lie because they weren't yet under audit. When the issue heated up over the next two years, only THEN did the IRS step in - to help cover for Trump by giving him the "audit" excuse he'd already been touting for two years prior. So much for "IRS deep state" - turns out it was "IRS MAGA."
Anonymous
12/21/2022 08:16
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speaking as one who hates Trump: Congress using its authority to make his tax returns public sets a terrible precedent. I would have been fine if Congress had made a law requiring that future presidential candidates or presidents make their tax returns public, but they didn't do that. Trump was within his rights to not provide them to the public (he lied about the reasons why, but that is not particularly relevant here). I agree with those that say that he should have made a different choice, but he didn't.
Congress has (and should have) the right of access to indivudal tax returns in order to prevent fraud, but this is an abuse of that right. It does nothing to prevent fraud, and it decreases the chance that the Supreme Court will side with Congress in the future on such matters, now that there is a history of abuse.
To add to this......
The job of Congress is to legislate. I fail to see any legislative purpose for obtaining the tax returns or releasing them publicly.
Their purpose is also to provide oversight over the Executive branch. That's why.
Anonymous
12/21/2022 08:09
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speaking as one who hates Trump: Congress using its authority to make his tax returns public sets a terrible precedent. I would have been fine if Congress had made a law requiring that future presidential candidates or presidents make their tax returns public, but they didn't do that. Trump was within his rights to not provide them to the public (he lied about the reasons why, but that is not particularly relevant here). I agree with those that say that he should have made a different choice, but he didn't.
Congress has (and should have) the right of access to indivudal tax returns in order to prevent fraud, but this is an abuse of that right. It does nothing to prevent fraud, and it decreases the chance that the Supreme Court will side with Congress in the future on such matters, now that there is a history of abuse.
To add to this......
The job of Congress is to legislate. I fail to see any legislative purpose for obtaining the tax returns or releasing them publicly.
Actually the job of congress is to be a full fledged third branch of government that checks the power of the executive. That includes but does not stop at only legislating. One could also make the obvious argument that they are the representatives of the citizens that have a right to know if their president was corrupt.
Anonymous
12/21/2022 07:30
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speaking as one who hates Trump: Congress using its authority to make his tax returns public sets a terrible precedent. I would have been fine if Congress had made a law requiring that future presidential candidates or presidents make their tax returns public, but they didn't do that. Trump was within his rights to not provide them to the public (he lied about the reasons why, but that is not particularly relevant here). I agree with those that say that he should have made a different choice, but he didn't.
Congress has (and should have) the right of access to indivudal tax returns in order to prevent fraud, but this is an abuse of that right. It does nothing to prevent fraud, and it decreases the chance that the Supreme Court will side with Congress in the future on such matters, now that there is a history of abuse.
To add to this......
The job of Congress is to legislate. I fail to see any legislative purpose for obtaining the tax returns or releasing them publicly.
But Congress hardly legislates now. The SCOTUS effectively legislates far too much. The USA government is a free for all now and the GOP shoulders much of the blame. Why should Dems continue to play by the “rules”?
We’re the Benghazi hearings done with legislative purpose in mind?
Anonymous
12/21/2022 07:19
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:Speaking as one who hates Trump: Congress using its authority to make his tax returns public sets a terrible precedent. I would have been fine if Congress had made a law requiring that future presidential candidates or presidents make their tax returns public, but they didn't do that. Trump was within his rights to not provide them to the public (he lied about the reasons why, but that is not particularly relevant here). I agree with those that say that he should have made a different choice, but he didn't.
Congress has (and should have) the right of access to indivudal tax returns in order to prevent fraud, but this is an abuse of that right. It does nothing to prevent fraud, and it decreases the chance that the Supreme Court will side with Congress in the future on such matters, now that there is a history of abuse.
To add to this......
The job of Congress is to legislate. I fail to see any legislative purpose for obtaining the tax returns or releasing them publicly.
Anonymous
12/21/2022 06:11
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:
Add the IRS to the list of agencies infiltrated by right wingers…
Anonymous
12/21/2022 00:26
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Speaking as one who hates Trump: Congress using its authority to make his tax returns public sets a terrible precedent. I would have been fine if Congress had made a law requiring that future presidential candidates or presidents make their tax returns public, but they didn't do that. Trump was within his rights to not provide them to the public (he lied about the reasons why, but that is not particularly relevant here). I agree with those that say that he should have made a different choice, but he didn't.
Congress has (and should have) the right of access to indivudal tax returns in order to prevent fraud, but this is an abuse of that right. It does nothing to prevent fraud, and it decreases the chance that the Supreme Court will side with Congress in the future on such matters, now that there is a history of abuse.
Congress has (and should have) the right of access to indivudal tax returns in order to prevent fraud, but this is an abuse of that right. It does nothing to prevent fraud, and it decreases the chance that the Supreme Court will side with Congress in the future on such matters, now that there is a history of abuse.
Anonymous
12/20/2022 22:36
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:
Anyone who doesn't understand how close the US was to a full on, lawless authoritarian state...
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Anonymous
12/20/2022 21:26
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous
12/20/2022 21:26
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
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Anonymous
12/20/2022 21:23
Subject: Re:Exclusive: Key House Democratic chairman requests Trump's tax returns
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Twitter is definitely broken- it took 20 min for this to actually start trending. I heard it on radio news when it broke. DCUM reported faster than the news hit my general Twitter feed (I follow a mix of news & politics - but usually breaking news is shared so quickly there’s no lag).
Twitter is deemphasizing journalists posts and amplifying the paid blue check accounts.
Along with Elon Musk PERSONALLY boosting far right wing whackadoos and provocateurs like Kim Dotcom, Ian Miles Cheong, covid deniers, antivaxxers, conspiracy theorists, often asking them, in seemingly naive and earnest fashion, questions like "why wouldn't the media cover this?"