Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 22:45     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

School 1: Brightwood, Janney, Lafayette, March, Powell, Shepherd and West

School 2: Bancroft, Cooke, Eaton, Hearst, Hyde, Marie Reed, Mann, Oyster-Adams, and Stoddert

Both would be around 500 a class

How does this not work? It checks the most positive blocks and the least amount of negative ones. Each has diversity. Each has a highly educated population. Each brings in currently underserved but growing areas. It's geographically sound. It's hugely symbolic by uniting both sides of the park. Each increases resident and student retention. Each increases property values. Each has schools with available OOB spots. Each would be filled.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 20:53     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lose with a new Western High. It’s a waste of my money. Arguments that it isn’t redundant have to do with something about the west side of DC being special because of whatever Wilson has that the rest of DC doesn’t.


Of course it seems absurd to build a new HS in DC when there are half a dozen HS below 50% enrollment, all but one of them recently renovated at great cost.

But politically it might be easier than re-drawing the boundaries and DC politicians have access to more cash than courage.

They've done a version of this already with all of the money they've spent expanding all of the ES and Deal (twice!) that are west of the park - if they tightened up on OOB enrollments and re-drew the boundaries they could have saved a lot of money.


It also has the highest chance of succeeding


Politically that is probably true but practically it is not critical and there really isn't a path as you need several acres for a new HS and there really are no sites for one WOTP.


The Old Hardy School sits on a city-owned site that is 5+ acres. It's bigger than Ellington's site.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 20:48     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Einstein >>>>>> Cardozo, Coolidge and Roosevelt!!

Plus the taxes are lower in Wheaton and wouldn't be pawns in some sick game between rich people in Palisades and Crestwood.


No one in Crestwood is "rich", except JDRIV.


That’s not what Redfin says.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 19:58     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:Einstein >>>>>> Cardozo, Coolidge and Roosevelt!!

Plus the taxes are lower in Wheaton and wouldn't be pawns in some sick game between rich people in Palisades and Crestwood.


No one in Crestwood is "rich", except JDRIV.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 18:41     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But the rest of DC wants it and are looking for it at Wilson. Give it to them someplace else + make them go someplace else. Or build Western HS. Wilson is only so big.


This is crap. The rest of DC wants a high school as good as Wilson. They do *not* want it in Georgetown, or elsewhere in NW DC.


The rest of DC wants a non-application high school as good as Wilson in their neighborhood. If they can't get it in their neighborhood they don't care where it is they just want access and to know that it will be good.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 17:43     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lose with a new Western High. It’s a waste of my money. Arguments that it isn’t redundant have to do with something about the west side of DC being special because of whatever Wilson has that the rest of DC doesn’t.


Of course it seems absurd to build a new HS in DC when there are half a dozen HS below 50% enrollment, all but one of them recently renovated at great cost.

But politically it might be easier than re-drawing the boundaries and DC politicians have access to more cash than courage.

They've done a version of this already with all of the money they've spent expanding all of the ES and Deal (twice!) that are west of the park - if they tightened up on OOB enrollments and re-drew the boundaries they could have saved a lot of money.


It also has the highest chance of succeeding


Politically that is probably true but practically it is not critical and there really isn't a path as you need several acres for a new HS and there really are no sites for one WOTP.


This is not true at all. DCPS already owns a large piece of land - the Duke Ellington track and field. It's actually bigger than the block DESA is located on. And that's just one piece of property owned by the city. There are quite a few others that can be functional. A new Western HS will not be as big as Wilson; it will likely be a smaller school and perhaps with a magnet focus.


Move Eelington. That location was never right for a citywide maagnet school.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 17:41     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

The old Western playing field and track is a short block away.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 17:28     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lose with a new Western High. It’s a waste of my money. Arguments that it isn’t redundant have to do with something about the west side of DC being special because of whatever Wilson has that the rest of DC doesn’t.


Of course it seems absurd to build a new HS in DC when there are half a dozen HS below 50% enrollment, all but one of them recently renovated at great cost.

But politically it might be easier than re-drawing the boundaries and DC politicians have access to more cash than courage.

They've done a version of this already with all of the money they've spent expanding all of the ES and Deal (twice!) that are west of the park - if they tightened up on OOB enrollments and re-drew the boundaries they could have saved a lot of money.


It also has the highest chance of succeeding


Politically that is probably true but practically it is not critical and there really isn't a path as you need several acres for a new HS and there really are no sites for one WOTP.


This is not true at all. DCPS already owns a large piece of land - the Duke Ellington track and field. It's actually bigger than the block DESA is located on. And that's just one piece of property owned by the city. There are quite a few others that can be functional. A new Western HS will not be as big as Wilson; it will likely be a smaller school and perhaps with a magnet focus.


No way can you get a HS and the needed fields on that piece of property though I get that you are suggesting a magnet school but that doesn't make sense to me.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 17:25     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But the rest of DC wants it and are looking for it at Wilson. Give it to them someplace else + make them go someplace else. Or build Western HS. Wilson is only so big.


This is crap. The rest of DC wants a high school as good as Wilson. They do *not* want it in Georgetown, or elsewhere in NW DC.


Yes, that is the “someplace else.” Someplace other than Wilson or WOTP (as you know, NW is more than WOTP).
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 17:16     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lose with a new Western High. It’s a waste of my money. Arguments that it isn’t redundant have to do with something about the west side of DC being special because of whatever Wilson has that the rest of DC doesn’t.


Of course it seems absurd to build a new HS in DC when there are half a dozen HS below 50% enrollment, all but one of them recently renovated at great cost.

But politically it might be easier than re-drawing the boundaries and DC politicians have access to more cash than courage.

They've done a version of this already with all of the money they've spent expanding all of the ES and Deal (twice!) that are west of the park - if they tightened up on OOB enrollments and re-drew the boundaries they could have saved a lot of money.


It also has the highest chance of succeeding


Politically that is probably true but practically it is not critical and there really isn't a path as you need several acres for a new HS and there really are no sites for one WOTP.


This is not true at all. DCPS already owns a large piece of land - the Duke Ellington track and field. It's actually bigger than the block DESA is located on. And that's just one piece of property owned by the city. There are quite a few others that can be functional. A new Western HS will not be as big as Wilson; it will likely be a smaller school and perhaps with a magnet focus.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 17:10     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lose with a new Western High. It’s a waste of my money. Arguments that it isn’t redundant have to do with something about the west side of DC being special because of whatever Wilson has that the rest of DC doesn’t.


Of course it seems absurd to build a new HS in DC when there are half a dozen HS below 50% enrollment, all but one of them recently renovated at great cost.

But politically it might be easier than re-drawing the boundaries and DC politicians have access to more cash than courage.

They've done a version of this already with all of the money they've spent expanding all of the ES and Deal (twice!) that are west of the park - if they tightened up on OOB enrollments and re-drew the boundaries they could have saved a lot of money.


It also has the highest chance of succeeding


Politically that is probably true but practically it is not critical and there really isn't a path as you need several acres for a new HS and there really are no sites for one WOTP.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 17:00     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lose with a new Western High. It’s a waste of my money. Arguments that it isn’t redundant have to do with something about the west side of DC being special because of whatever Wilson has that the rest of DC doesn’t.


Of course it seems absurd to build a new HS in DC when there are half a dozen HS below 50% enrollment, all but one of them recently renovated at great cost.

But politically it might be easier than re-drawing the boundaries and DC politicians have access to more cash than courage.

They've done a version of this already with all of the money they've spent expanding all of the ES and Deal (twice!) that are west of the park - if they tightened up on OOB enrollments and re-drew the boundaries they could have saved a lot of money.


"DC politicians have access to more cash than courage." I'll have to remember to steal that.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 16:54     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lose with a new Western High. It’s a waste of my money. Arguments that it isn’t redundant have to do with something about the west side of DC being special because of whatever Wilson has that the rest of DC doesn’t.


Of course it seems absurd to build a new HS in DC when there are half a dozen HS below 50% enrollment, all but one of them recently renovated at great cost.

But politically it might be easier than re-drawing the boundaries and DC politicians have access to more cash than courage.

They've done a version of this already with all of the money they've spent expanding all of the ES and Deal (twice!) that are west of the park - if they tightened up on OOB enrollments and re-drew the boundaries they could have saved a lot of money.


It also has the highest chance of succeeding
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 16:31     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or “I really don’t want to move to Bethesda - pls give me reason to stay”


Have you gotten one?


Not everyone can afford Bethesda.

Some can, but not everyone holds up Bethesda as some aspirational end goal.

We lived close to Bethesda (zoned for a “W” school) before buying in DC. Most of our activities, child care, and one of our jobs was in Bethesda. It was fine, but much prefer DC.


Are you one of the people who moved to a neighborhood you knew had sub-par IB schools, and not are complaining that DC needs to dramatically increase, or at least preserve, its OOB slots?


No. Deal feeder. Haven’t weighed in because not sure I have a specific stance right now (several years away from middle school).
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 16:28     Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give

Anonymous wrote:But the rest of DC wants it and are looking for it at Wilson. Give it to them someplace else + make them go someplace else. Or build Western HS. Wilson is only so big.


This is crap. The rest of DC wants a high school as good as Wilson. They do *not* want it in Georgetown, or elsewhere in NW DC.