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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread has only made me more convinced to seek out a reputable breeder when it's time for me to get a dog. So, good job, OP?

Not fooling anyone, you were planning on doing that all along.

Not OP

absolutely incorrect. I've never had a dog and always pictured going to a shelter. but the prevalence of pitbulls and the fact that rescue proponents seem really nuts & dishonest has made me change my mind. I am not getting a dog to rescue a dog, but to have a dog.

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Anonymous wrote:So the breeders don't do home inspections, interviews, or anything like that? Just show up with some money and here is your genetically made dog? That is super sketchy.

Also, why did you all give birth to random kids. Why didn't you genetically modify your kids to your liking. It is no different.

Our breeder was super picky, made us do multiple interviews and delivered the dog herself so she could see our house. She also promised us most of our money back if the dog didn't work for our family--she wanted the dog back rather than have us sell it to someone she didn't know. (We would never do that, of course.)

Breeding animals is not something new. Welcome to the bronze age.

Lots of bad things have been around for a long time. Doesn’t suddenly make them good.

Oh, okay. Well, you've convinced me. NOT

Well, come on, you’re making a stupid argument. What difference does it make that people have been doing it for a long time? There was slavery for a long time does that make it right?

god, you're dumb

the point is that there is NOTHING unethical about careful dog breeding.

you are illogically and hysterically linking two separate things.

people who want a purebread dog will NOT substitute with a rescue ... because they want a purebread.

if you want more shelter dogs adopted, you'd best focus on the issues many people have raised: the prevalence of pit bulls in rescues; deception by rescue shelter staff about the type of dogs; the lack of trust you're creating be being so whacko about rescues.

Anonymous wrote:I have two rescue dogs (one is a mutt from the shelter, one came from a breed-specific rescue) but I see absolutely nothing wrong from getting the dog you want from a reputable breeder. Good breeders take care of their dogs, pay attention to their genetics and health, and are careful about adopting to responsible families. By contrast, PPs are right about how shady some rescue groups are. Plenty of them buy their dogs from puppy mills -- supporting mills is much worse than supporting a good breeder.

It’s not an either/or proposition.

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread has only made me more convinced to seek out a reputable breeder when it's time for me to get a dog. So, good job, OP?

Not fooling anyone, you were planning on doing that all along.

Not OP

I have two rescue dogs (one is a mutt from the shelter, one came from a breed-specific rescue) but I see absolutely nothing wrong from getting the dog you want from a reputable breeder. Good breeders take care of their dogs, pay attention to their genetics and health, and are careful about adopting to responsible families. By contrast, PPs are right about how shady some rescue groups are. Plenty of them buy their dogs from puppy mills -- supporting mills is much worse than supporting a good breeder.

Anonymous wrote:My vet, who has rescued many dogs, told me recently that from now on she will only get from breeders. She had been through too many shelter dogs with too many problems.

And that makes it ethical why? Your vet sounds like a real peach.

This whole thread has only made me more convinced to seek out a reputable breeder when it's time for me to get a dog. So, good job, OP?

My vet, who has rescued many dogs, told me recently that from now on she will only get from breeders. She had been through too many shelter dogs with too many problems.

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Anonymous wrote:So the breeders don't do home inspections, interviews, or anything like that? Just show up with some money and here is your genetically made dog? That is super sketchy.

Also, why did you all give birth to random kids. Why didn't you genetically modify your kids to your liking. It is no different.

Our breeder was super picky, made us do multiple interviews and delivered the dog herself so she could see our house. She also promised us most of our money back if the dog didn't work for our family--she wanted the dog back rather than have us sell it to someone she didn't know. (We would never do that, of course.)

Breeding animals is not something new. Welcome to the bronze age.

Lots of bad things have been around for a long time. Doesn’t suddenly make them good.

Oh, okay. Well, you've convinced me. NOT

Well, come on, you’re making a stupid argument. What difference does it make that people have been doing it for a long time? There was slavery for a long time does that make it right?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the breeders don't do home inspections, interviews, or anything like that? Just show up with some money and here is your genetically made dog? That is super sketchy.

Also, why did you all give birth to random kids. Why didn't you genetically modify your kids to your liking. It is no different.

Our breeder was super picky, made us do multiple interviews and delivered the dog herself so she could see our house. She also promised us most of our money back if the dog didn't work for our family--she wanted the dog back rather than have us sell it to someone she didn't know. (We would never do that, of course.)

Breeding animals is not something new. Welcome to the bronze age.

Lots of bad things have been around for a long time. Doesn’t suddenly make them good.

Oh, okay. Well, you've convinced me. NOT

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the breeders don't do home inspections, interviews, or anything like that? Just show up with some money and here is your genetically made dog? That is super sketchy.

Also, why did you all give birth to random kids. Why didn't you genetically modify your kids to your liking. It is no different.

Our breeder was super picky, made us do multiple interviews and delivered the dog herself so she could see our house. She also promised us most of our money back if the dog didn't work for our family--she wanted the dog back rather than have us sell it to someone she didn't know. (We would never do that, of course.)

Breeding animals is not something new. Welcome to the bronze age.

You are fooling yourself if you think that your breeder is breeding for anything other than to make money. Of course they are picky about who the dog goes with, if there are problems it comes back to haunt them and their business. It’s a money making venture. How much did you pay for your dog, after all?

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Anonymous wrote:So the breeders don't do home inspections, interviews, or anything like that? Just show up with some money and here is your genetically made dog? That is super sketchy.

Also, why did you all give birth to random kids. Why didn't you genetically modify your kids to your liking. It is no different.

Our breeder was super picky, made us do multiple interviews and delivered the dog herself so she could see our house. She also promised us most of our money back if the dog didn't work for our family--she wanted the dog back rather than have us sell it to someone she didn't know. (We would never do that, of course.)

Breeding animals is not something new. Welcome to the bronze age.

Lots of bad things have been around for a long time. Doesn’t suddenly make them good.

Look, I have a rescue dog and three "domestic shorthair" cats, but some of you anti-breeder folks sound crazy.

Anonymous wrote:So the breeders don't do home inspections, interviews, or anything like that? Just show up with some money and here is your genetically made dog? That is super sketchy.

Also, why did you all give birth to random kids. Why didn't you genetically modify your kids to your liking. It is no different.

Our breeder was super picky, made us do multiple interviews and delivered the dog herself so she could see our house. She also promised us most of our money back if the dog didn't work for our family--she wanted the dog back rather than have us sell it to someone she didn't know. (We would never do that, of course.)

Breeding animals is not something new. Welcome to the bronze age.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I want selfish bitches like you to stop buying genetically-made dogs for a massive profit that increases puppy mills and breeders across the country, so that maybe the 670,000 dogs that have to die each year have a chance to live. That is all.

I think everyone is in agreement that buying animals from puppy mills is bad, or at least those of us having a reasoned discussion are. Stop with the name-calling. Puppy mills contribute to the problem. Ethical breeders who work closely with the AKC and focus on one or possibly two litters a year are not your problem here. Understand the difference.

In the same way that not all shelters or rescues are unethical, nor are all those who produce pure-bred dogs.

Yes, they are. Why on earth do you have to have a purebred dog? Do you feel that same way about the human race?