Anonymous
11/18/2018 16:50
Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Moving the goalposts again. You are still wrong on your claims for how recruiting works - that coaches only recruiting from winning teams. You are also wrong on which colleges are D1. You lack knowledge of even the basic facts.
Coaches recruit players not teams.
Coaches recruit players not teams.
Anonymous
11/18/2018 15:49
Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With the current market of ECNL and DA diluting the player pool a strong team no longer means what it once did. College coaches have to pan for gold now more than ever.
That's not what it looked like last year, but we will see if this year it is. Last year, they still showed up in droves for the same clubs.
If it is all about the strong teams hows does a team like Loudoun that has a 2-10 record have 11 girls with scholarships this week? That’s how it worked this year.
None of them went to top 50 programs. I believe only 3 have commitments to division 1 schools with the highest ranked program being Radford. The rest are division 2 and division 3 schools. Do you really have to spend big $$$$ on ECNL to get an offer from division 2 or 3 college?
LOL. Now you are moving the goalposts. How did the college scouts find them? That’s the big question. Kind of goes against what you said earlier.
I would say JMU is still a D1 school. Since they are #1 in the CAA conference you would know that too if you had college soccer players.
I can see that maybe you would miss all the other D1 schools for the Loudoun NLIs but that seals it for me on your lack of credibility.
I beg to differ. JMU's women's team is ranked no. 93 among division 1 programs, so there's not much there to revel in. Radford is No. 59. I understand spending big bucks on ECNL to be scouted by Stanford, North Carolina or Georgetown and the potential get a full ride to through one of these programs, but if your best case scenario is playing for Radford or JMU, then your paying $10k+ per year for ECNL is a waste of money. And you certainly don't need to play for an ECNL team and incur higher cost to go to division 2 or division 3 program.
Anonymous
11/18/2018 10:23
Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's crazy that some parents think winning is not important 16+.... College coaches are not going to sit and watch a team that can't win a game. I would look at the amount of coaches that watch McLean and BRYC at 16-17-19 in Greer and Sanford and compare it to what shows up for Loudoun and VDA matches. There is absolutely no reason teams 16+ should not be going on the field to win games. If you are being told other wise run... fast.
Absolutely true. At that point, if a team is getting its ass handed to it game after game, either find another team to play or accept that your child should be playing in a lower division. Players won't get recruited from teams that can't compete.
OK --- then compare the commitments from the Richmond U-17 team (sub 500 win pct) and the BRYC U-17 (about 600 win pct) --- looks that Richmond team is doing just fine in placing girls in higher profile programs that the BRYC team.
BTW: If you think you're kid won't get recruited on a bad ECNL team because nobody watches them, how many coaches do you think come to CCL / NCSL / etc games? And do you think the coaches will be excited about a worse player on a successful CCL / NCSL player.
That's like saying only players from FBS teams will get drafted into the NFL, and if you're not one of those teams, no NFL scout will see you.
BRYC U-17 is basically a new team. They only have 2 of their original players. They may only have 4 committed to Division 1 schools, but there are several others talking to coaches. AND most of that team is sophomores! BRYC has a couple of 02s playing up that are committed! So that places the U-17s I believe at 6 committed to Divsion 1 schools. William and Mary, UConn, Naval Academy, Are the 3 I know of, can’t remember the other 3.
BRYC U17 team is almost the same team as least --- it's not new.
Their coach told the 02s that they should focus on D-2 and D-3 schools because only his only 03 players were good enough for D-1.
Good for the girls that got D1 commitments! They proved the coach wrong!
Anonymous
11/18/2018 10:13
Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With the current market of ECNL and DA diluting the player pool a strong team no longer means what it once did. College coaches have to pan for gold now more than ever.
That's not what it looked like last year, but we will see if this year it is. Last year, they still showed up in droves for the same clubs.
If it is all about the strong teams hows does a team like Loudoun that has a 2-10 record have 11 girls with scholarships this week? That’s how it worked this year.
None of them went to top 50 programs. I believe only 3 have commitments to division 1 schools with the highest ranked program being Radford. The rest are division 2 and division 3 schools. Do you really have to spend big $$$$ on ECNL to get an offer from division 2 or 3 college?
LOL. Now you are moving the goalposts. How did the college scouts find them? That’s the big question. Kind of goes against what you said earlier.
I would say JMU is still a D1 school. Since they are #1 in the CAA conference you would know that too if you had college soccer players.
I can see that maybe you would miss all the other D1 schools for the Loudoun NLIs but that seals it for me on your lack of credibility.
Anonymous
11/18/2018 09:46
Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's crazy that some parents think winning is not important 16+.... College coaches are not going to sit and watch a team that can't win a game. I would look at the amount of coaches that watch McLean and BRYC at 16-17-19 in Greer and Sanford and compare it to what shows up for Loudoun and VDA matches. There is absolutely no reason teams 16+ should not be going on the field to win games. If you are being told other wise run... fast.
Absolutely true. At that point, if a team is getting its ass handed to it game after game, either find another team to play or accept that your child should be playing in a lower division. Players won't get recruited from teams that can't compete.
OK --- then compare the commitments from the Richmond U-17 team (sub 500 win pct) and the BRYC U-17 (about 600 win pct) --- looks that Richmond team is doing just fine in placing girls in higher profile programs that the BRYC team.
BTW: If you think you're kid won't get recruited on a bad ECNL team because nobody watches them, how many coaches do you think come to CCL / NCSL / etc games? And do you think the coaches will be excited about a worse player on a successful CCL / NCSL player.
That's like saying only players from FBS teams will get drafted into the NFL, and if you're not one of those teams, no NFL scout will see you.
BRYC U-17 is basically a new team. They only have 2 of their original players. They may only have 4 committed to Division 1 schools, but there are several others talking to coaches. AND most of that team is sophomores! BRYC has a couple of 02s playing up that are committed! So that places the U-17s I believe at 6 committed to Divsion 1 schools. William and Mary, UConn, Naval Academy, Are the 3 I know of, can’t remember the other 3.
BRYC U17 team is almost the same team as least --- it's not new.
Their coach told the 02s that they should focus on D-2 and D-3 schools because only his only 03 players were good enough for D-1.
Anonymous
11/18/2018 09:40
Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With the current market of ECNL and DA diluting the player pool a strong team no longer means what it once did. College coaches have to pan for gold now more than ever.
That's not what it looked like last year, but we will see if this year it is. Last year, they still showed up in droves for the same clubs.
If it is all about the strong teams hows does a team like Loudoun that has a 2-10 record have 11 girls with scholarships this week? That’s how it worked this year.
None of them went to top 50 programs. I believe only 3 have commitments to division 1 schools with the highest ranked program being Radford. The rest are division 2 and division 3 schools. Do you really have to spend big $$$$ on ECNL to get an offer from division 2 or 3 college?
Anonymous
11/17/2018 21:29
Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With the current market of ECNL and DA diluting the player pool a strong team no longer means what it once did. College coaches have to pan for gold now more than ever.
That's not what it looked like last year, but we will see if this year it is. Last year, they still showed up in droves for the same clubs.
If it is all about the strong teams hows does a team like Loudoun that has a 2-10 record have 11 girls with scholarships this week? That’s how it worked this year.
Anonymous
11/17/2018 21:27
Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
BRYC U-17 is basically a new team. They only have 2 of their original players. They may only have 4 committed to Division 1 schools, but there are several others talking to coaches. AND most of that team is sophomores! BRYC has a couple of 02s playing up that are committed! So that places the U-17s I believe at 6 committed to Divsion 1 schools. William and Mary, UConn, Naval Academy, Are the 3 I know of, can’t remember the other 3.
BRYC U17 team is almost the same team as least --- it's not new.
The Coach cut every player except for 2 or 3 for the Fall of 2017/18. This year 2018/19 same as last year, only for a few new players. Compared to Richmond, BRYC U-17 iis a very new Team! BRYC formed a composite team for the girls who were cut.
Anonymous
11/17/2018 20:39
Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:For the love of Mary choose a college based on academic fit and interests and career goals and opportunities. try to make the soccer work after that.
Why are you giving unsolicited advice?
Anonymous
11/17/2018 19:59
Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
For the love of Mary choose a college based on academic fit and interests and career goals and opportunities. try to make the soccer work after that.
Anonymous
11/17/2018 18:30
Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:With the current market of ECNL and DA diluting the player pool a strong team no longer means what it once did. College coaches have to pan for gold now more than ever.
That's not what it looked like last year, but we will see if this year it is. Last year, they still showed up in droves for the same clubs.
Anonymous
11/17/2018 18:28
Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.
Congrats on having older children.
If you're waiting on an ECNL showcase to initiate a contact, that's on you you.
So many more ways to get noticed --- you may have to do some work, but I'm sorry to inform you that ECNL showcases are the only source for college coaches to find recruits.
What are you talking about? No one on this thread has suggested that. Clueless post.
Anonymous
11/17/2018 18:28
Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's crazy that some parents think winning is not important 16+.... College coaches are not going to sit and watch a team that can't win a game. I would look at the amount of coaches that watch McLean and BRYC at 16-17-19 in Greer and Sanford and compare it to what shows up for Loudoun and VDA matches. There is absolutely no reason teams 16+ should not be going on the field to win games. If you are being told other wise run... fast.
Absolutely true. At that point, if a team is getting its ass handed to it game after game, either find another team to play or accept that your child should be playing in a lower division. Players won't get recruited from teams that can't compete.
OK --- then compare the commitments from the Richmond U-17 team (sub 500 win pct) and the BRYC U-17 (about 600 win pct) --- looks that Richmond team is doing just fine in placing girls in higher profile programs that the BRYC team.
BTW: If you think you're kid won't get recruited on a bad ECNL team because nobody watches them, how many coaches do you think come to CCL / NCSL / etc games? And do you think the coaches will be excited about a worse player on a successful CCL / NCSL player.
That's like saying only players from FBS teams will get drafted into the NFL, and if you're not one of those teams, no NFL scout will see you.
BRYC U-17 is basically a new team. They only have 2 of their original players. They may only have 4 committed to Division 1 schools, but there are several others talking to coaches. AND most of that team is sophomores! BRYC has a couple of 02s playing up that are committed! So that places the U-17s I believe at 6 committed to Divsion 1 schools. William and Mary, UConn, Naval Academy, Are the 3 I know of, can’t remember the other 3.
BRYC U17 team is almost the same team as least --- it's not new.
Anonymous
11/17/2018 18:25
Subject: Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
Anonymous wrote:Pay attention at any college showcase. The strong teams are lined with scouts. The weaker ones hardly have 4 or 5. And yes, I have older children, I've been. That's how it works. Anyone who tells you anything else is just selling you. They aren't being honest.
Congrats on having older children.
If you're waiting on an ECNL showcase to initiate a contact, that's on you you.
So many more ways to get noticed --- you may have to do some work, but I'm sorry to inform you that ECNL showcases are the only source for college coaches to find recruits.
Anonymous
11/17/2018 17:23
Subject: Re:Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season
With the current market of ECNL and DA diluting the player pool a strong team no longer means what it once did. College coaches have to pan for gold now more than ever.