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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

I already know all of that My question was directed at 17:59. Again since this is a VA SCHOOL FORUM I am assuming that 17:49 would live in VA. I'm wondering specifically why anyone who lives around the Cooper/Churchill/Langley area or just in N. VA would be opposed to the closing of the 495 ramp from 1-7pm weekdays. What "other" neighborhoods would get clogged up from this if they closed the ramp?

You have to figure that out for yourself; but I will tell you that the traffic will be dispersed such that not one neighborhood will be gridlocked after the ramp closure, the traffic will be broken up - unlike now.

Also, why don't these Maryland drivers get MD to pay for a bridge? That would be the logical answer. Of course, that seems to make too much sense for some of the PPs.

You will say that, but other neighborhoods (Tysons, or along 123 or 7) already have plenty of traffic and VDOT has stated that closing the ramp would be a "wash" (which means that alleviating traffic in one location just makes it worse somewhere else).

So you are going to have to do a lot better than "I will tell you it's gonna be great" if you want to convince others this is a good idea. And, believe it or not, some of us who live in the area DO need to go to MD from 1-6, either to get to schools in MD or for part-time jobs. The SAHMs whose kids go to Cooper and Langley, of course, may have no experience with such things.

So many inaccurate presumptions in your post, I have no idea where to start. How about you reel in that anger, then address the matter at hand? No one is saying that the traffic will magically disappear - it simply makes more sense to disperse (look. it. up.) the traffic, than have it concentrated in one area. It is not a personal attack on you, believe it or not.

You could start by trying to answer the question honestly, which you haven’t begun to do. Closing one entrance to the Beltway doesn’t “disperse” traffic, so much as divert it to other areas that already have plenty of traffic.

“Disperse” would only be a fair characterization if all the traffic were currently concentrated in one place, and you know that’s not the case (see prior posts suggesting that drivers should be required to use the Toll Road “like everyone else”).

So, again, the only fair inference from your posts is that you simply want less traffic in the Langley area and could not care less if that makes traffic worse elsewhere.

Much of the traffic is currently in one place. Furthermore, even if that was not the case (which it is), the drivers are behaving in an illegal manner, causing safety issues, and more. If the commuters at that intersection obeyed the law (which they are not), it would not have come to this. Stop being such a child and accept responsibility for your actions. Maybe you would get further in life, and stop being so sour grapes. Maybe.

I haven't suggested there shouldn't be additional traffic enforcement at the intersection, especially when students are being released from school . Not once.

On the other hand, you've continued to obfuscate, by making false claims that traffic is concentrated in your neighborhood to the exclusion of others; you've offered no evidence that closing the Georgetown Pike exit ramp would lead to any net benefits in the region's traffic flow (as opposed to what VDOT officials have said, which is that it's all just a "wash"), and you've been the one ready to attack anyone who didn't agree with you (and make assumptions that are likely false about our financial status compared to yours).

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

I already know all of that My question was directed at 17:59. Again since this is a VA SCHOOL FORUM I am assuming that 17:49 would live in VA. I'm wondering specifically why anyone who lives around the Cooper/Churchill/Langley area or just in N. VA would be opposed to the closing of the 495 ramp from 1-7pm weekdays. What "other" neighborhoods would get clogged up from this if they closed the ramp?

You have to figure that out for yourself; but I will tell you that the traffic will be dispersed such that not one neighborhood will be gridlocked after the ramp closure, the traffic will be broken up - unlike now.

Also, why don't these Maryland drivers get MD to pay for a bridge? That would be the logical answer. Of course, that seems to make too much sense for some of the PPs.

You will say that, but other neighborhoods (Tysons, or along 123 or 7) already have plenty of traffic and VDOT has stated that closing the ramp would be a "wash" (which means that alleviating traffic in one location just makes it worse somewhere else).

So you are going to have to do a lot better than "I will tell you it's gonna be great" if you want to convince others this is a good idea. And, believe it or not, some of us who live in the area DO need to go to MD from 1-6, either to get to schools in MD or for part-time jobs. The SAHMs whose kids go to Cooper and Langley, of course, may have no experience with such things.

So many inaccurate presumptions in your post, I have no idea where to start. How about you reel in that anger, then address the matter at hand? No one is saying that the traffic will magically disappear - it simply makes more sense to disperse (look. it. up.) the traffic, than have it concentrated in one area. It is not a personal attack on you, believe it or not.

You could start by trying to answer the question honestly, which you haven’t begun to do. Closing one entrance to the Beltway doesn’t “disperse” traffic, so much as divert it to other areas that already have plenty of traffic.

“Disperse” would only be a fair characterization if all the traffic were currently concentrated in one place, and you know that’s not the case (see prior posts suggesting that drivers should be required to use the Toll Road “like everyone else”).

So, again, the only fair inference from your posts is that you simply want less traffic in the Langley area and could not care less if that makes traffic worse elsewhere.

Much of the traffic is currently in one place. Furthermore, even if that was not the case (which it is), the drivers are behaving in an illegal manner, causing safety issues, and more. If the commuters at that intersection obeyed the law (which they are not), it would not have come to this. Stop being such a child and accept responsibility for your actions. Maybe you would get further in life, and stop being so sour grapes. Maybe.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

I already know all of that My question was directed at 17:59. Again since this is a VA SCHOOL FORUM I am assuming that 17:49 would live in VA. I'm wondering specifically why anyone who lives around the Cooper/Churchill/Langley area or just in N. VA would be opposed to the closing of the 495 ramp from 1-7pm weekdays. What "other" neighborhoods would get clogged up from this if they closed the ramp?

You have to figure that out for yourself; but I will tell you that the traffic will be dispersed such that not one neighborhood will be gridlocked after the ramp closure, the traffic will be broken up - unlike now.

Also, why don't these Maryland drivers get MD to pay for a bridge? That would be the logical answer. Of course, that seems to make too much sense for some of the PPs.

You will say that, but other neighborhoods (Tysons, or along 123 or 7) already have plenty of traffic and VDOT has stated that closing the ramp would be a "wash" (which means that alleviating traffic in one location just makes it worse somewhere else).

So you are going to have to do a lot better than "I will tell you it's gonna be great" if you want to convince others this is a good idea. And, believe it or not, some of us who live in the area DO need to go to MD from 1-6, either to get to schools in MD or for part-time jobs. The SAHMs whose kids go to Cooper and Langley, of course, may have no experience with such things.

So many inaccurate presumptions in your post, I have no idea where to start. How about you reel in that anger, then address the matter at hand? No one is saying that the traffic will magically disappear - it simply makes more sense to disperse (look. it. up.) the traffic, than have it concentrated in one area. It is not a personal attack on you, believe it or not.

You could start by trying to answer the question honestly, which you haven’t begun to do. Closing one entrance to the Beltway doesn’t “disperse” traffic, so much as divert it to other areas that already have plenty of traffic.

“Disperse” would only be a fair characterization if all the traffic were currently concentrated in one place, and you know that’s not the case (see prior posts suggesting that drivers should be required to use the Toll Road “like everyone else”).

So, again, the only fair inference from your posts is that you simply want less traffic in the Langley area and could not care less if that makes traffic worse elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

I already know all of that My question was directed at 17:59. Again since this is a VA SCHOOL FORUM I am assuming that 17:49 would live in VA. I'm wondering specifically why anyone who lives around the Cooper/Churchill/Langley area or just in N. VA would be opposed to the closing of the 495 ramp from 1-7pm weekdays. What "other" neighborhoods would get clogged up from this if they closed the ramp?

You have to figure that out for yourself; but I will tell you that the traffic will be dispersed such that not one neighborhood will be gridlocked after the ramp closure, the traffic will be broken up - unlike now.

Also, why don't these Maryland drivers get MD to pay for a bridge? That would be the logical answer. Of course, that seems to make too much sense for some of the PPs.

You will say that, but other neighborhoods (Tysons, or along 123 or 7) already have plenty of traffic and VDOT has stated that closing the ramp would be a "wash" (which means that alleviating traffic in one location just makes it worse somewhere else).

So you are going to have to do a lot better than "I will tell you it's gonna be great" if you want to convince others this is a good idea. And, believe it or not, some of us who live in the area DO need to go to MD from 1-6, either to get to schools in MD or for part-time jobs. The SAHMs whose kids go to Cooper and Langley, of course, may have no experience with such things.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

I already know all of that My question was directed at 17:59. Again since this is a VA SCHOOL FORUM I am assuming that 17:49 would live in VA. I'm wondering specifically why anyone who lives around the Cooper/Churchill/Langley area or just in N. VA would be opposed to the closing of the 495 ramp from 1-7pm weekdays. What "other" neighborhoods would get clogged up from this if they closed the ramp?

You have to figure that out for yourself; but I will tell you that the traffic will be dispersed such that not one neighborhood will be gridlocked after the ramp closure, the traffic will be broken up - unlike now.

Also, why don't these Maryland drivers get MD to pay for a bridge? That would be the logical answer. Of course, that seems to make too much sense for some of the PPs.

You will say that, but other neighborhoods (Tysons, or along 123 or 7) already have plenty of traffic and VDOT has stated that closing the ramp would be a "wash" (which means that alleviating traffic in one location just makes it worse somewhere else).

So you are going to have to do a lot better than "I will tell you it's gonna be great" if you want to convince others this is a good idea. And, believe it or not, some of us who live in the area DO need to go to MD from 1-6, either to get to schools in MD or for part-time jobs. The SAHMs whose kids go to Cooper and Langley, of course, may have no experience with such things.

So many inaccurate presumptions in your post, I have no idea where to start. How about you reel in that anger, then address the matter at hand? No one is saying that the traffic will magically disappear - it simply makes more sense to disperse (look. it. up.) the traffic, than have it concentrated in one area. It is not a personal attack on you, believe it or not.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

I already know all of that My question was directed at 17:59. Again since this is a VA SCHOOL FORUM I am assuming that 17:49 would live in VA. I'm wondering specifically why anyone who lives around the Cooper/Churchill/Langley area or just in N. VA would be opposed to the closing of the 495 ramp from 1-7pm weekdays. What "other" neighborhoods would get clogged up from this if they closed the ramp?

You have to figure that out for yourself; but I will tell you that the traffic will be dispersed such that not one neighborhood will be gridlocked after the ramp closure, the traffic will be broken up - unlike now.

Also, why don't these Maryland drivers get MD to pay for a bridge? That would be the logical answer. Of course, that seems to make too much sense for some of the PPs.

You will say that, but other neighborhoods (Tysons, or along 123 or 7) already have plenty of traffic and VDOT has stated that closing the ramp would be a "wash" (which means that alleviating traffic in one location just makes it worse somewhere else).

So you are going to have to do a lot better than "I will tell you it's gonna be great" if you want to convince others this is a good idea. And, believe it or not, some of us who live in the area DO need to go to MD from 1-6, either to get to schools in MD or for part-time jobs. The SAHMs whose kids go to Cooper and Langley, of course, may have no experience with such things.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

I already know all of that My question was directed at 17:59. Again since this is a VA SCHOOL FORUM I am assuming that 17:49 would live in VA. I'm wondering specifically why anyone who lives around the Cooper/Churchill/Langley area or just in N. VA would be opposed to the closing of the 495 ramp from 1-7pm weekdays. What "other" neighborhoods would get clogged up from this if they closed the ramp?

You have to figure that out for yourself; but I will tell you that the traffic will be dispersed such that not one neighborhood will be gridlocked after the ramp closure, the traffic will be broken up - unlike now.

Also, why don't these Maryland drivers get MD to pay for a bridge? That would be the logical answer. Of course, that seems to make too much sense for some of the PPs.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

I already know all of that My question was directed at 17:59. Again since this is a VA SCHOOL FORUM I am assuming that 17:49 would live in VA. I'm wondering specifically why anyone who lives around the Cooper/Churchill/Langley area or just in N. VA would be opposed to the closing of the 495 ramp from 1-7pm weekdays. What "other" neighborhoods would get clogged up from this if they closed the ramp?

I just don't see any other option other that taking beltway or toll road beltway. I guess traffic could be diverted onto GW parkway from to beltway but that would be really far out of the way for people avoiding the toll road.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

I already know all of that My question was directed at 17:59. Again since this is a VA SCHOOL FORUM I am assuming that 17:49 would live in VA. I'm wondering specifically why anyone who lives around the Cooper/Churchill/Langley area or just in N. VA would be opposed to the closing of the 495 ramp from 1-7pm weekdays. What "other" neighborhoods would get clogged up from this if they closed the ramp?

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Anonymous wrote:LOL at the idea that only one person is in favor of the ramp closing.

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Everyone I know in the McLean/Great Falls area is in favor of closing that ramp during school dismissal times.

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Of course they are! But according to hostile Marylanders (note block the box antics that led to closure) there is only one poster in favor of closing the ramp. Hilarious!

I have an idea: why don't we send all of the Cooper/Langley kids to Maryland for school, so we will be even? In the Marylanders dreams, that is. So delusional.

Anonymous wrote:Why do most of the posts in favor of closing the ramp sound like they were written by the same person?

You wish they were.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

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Frankly, I'm not interested in making the MD drivers' commute smoother at the expense of my kids getting home from Cooper and Langley in a timely fashion. They should have to use the toll road, like everyone else, and not clog up our local roads.

If "everyone else" is already taking the Toll Road, of course drivers will look for an alternative route. My question is why you think the solution is to divert even more traffic to other neighborhoods. Frankly, I'm not interested in your getting relief at the expense of others.

Why do most of the posts in favor of closing the ramp sound like they were written by the same person?

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Anonymous wrote:Mornings generally aren't the problem. Give it a go this afternoon. We live four miles from Langley off of Georgetown Pike. Bus came at 7:28 and arrived to LHS at 8:11. Not bad considering it's the first day and people are getting used to the school traffic again.

Op here. Kids will take the bus home. Hoping it is reverse traffic. I believe balls hill to Georgetown pike isn’t the bottleneck. Hope I’m not wrong.

I haven’t signed up for any afternoon activities yet.

Balls Hill to G'town Pike is very much part of the bottleneck. When my kids attended Cooper, I would always get stuck in a horrendous backup on Balls Hill on my way to pick them up at dismissal for activities (the backup being comprised of mostly MD drivers, trying to get to the Beltway by avoiding the Toll Road.) Finally had to start arriving at Cooper an hour early, just to get there before the traffic backed up. Ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy to see the push-back. We'd definitely be inconvenienced if the ramp were closed.

assuming you live in the general area or in VA can you explain why it would be inconvenient for you if they closed the ramp from 1-7pm weekdays? Do you go into MD everyday in that timeframe? Or are you thinking it will make other neighborhood/school areas backed up with traffic? I’m trying to figure out the good verses bad.

Most NOT in favor are traveling *from VA to MD at the evening rush hour*, which happens to be about 3:30 to 7. Some evenings are gridlocked, and there is clearly one cause, so if the cause is stopped, the traffic is dispersed elsewhere (not just one place). The Marylanders take offense because they think only the rich people object to the traffic, and want the closure, which is not the case. It is the same reason that the Marylanders block the box, they think they are sticking it to the man, but they are really sticking it to every day people - renters and other people who live work in that area. So, the closure was deemed necessary as part of the study.

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Frankly, I'm not interested in making the MD drivers' commute smoother at the expense of my kids getting home from Cooper and Langley in a timely fashion. They should have to use the toll road, like everyone else, and not clog up our local roads.