Anonymous wrote:
If you can't see what serious potential future problems you'd be setting yourself up for by pushing your adult daughter to have an abortion....we can't help you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Immediate PP. Same holds true if she wants to put the baby up for adoption -- as the birth father, he may be able to contest that adoption. He has just as much of a parental right to decide the baby's future as your DD does. There have been cases where birth fathers have contested adoptions and won the right to their biological children even if those children have been living with their adoptive families for months or years. Think about the trauma involved in that scenario.
Again, you and she need to talk to a family lawyer well-versed in custody, child support, and adoption law to understand the ramifications of either keeping the baby or giving it up for adoption.
These cases are few and far between except I hope more happen. Most of those are shady adoptions where they didn't ask the birthfather and went to a state where birthfathers have little rights or have to do things in order to have rights (except they don't know the woman is pregnant or they hide her so he cannot find her).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who are all these trashy people getting pregnant in college? That’s insane. I’ve never even heard of this happening to anybody I know but then again I and my children and spouse all went to ivies or equivalents. Maybe there is a negative correlation with intellect.
You are seriously out of touch with reality.
NP. I'll put it this way. The bigger question is why these girls are having sex with boys who are for the most part unacceptable matches?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who are all these trashy people getting pregnant in college? That’s insane. I’ve never even heard of this happening to anybody I know but then again I and my children and spouse all went to ivies or equivalents. Maybe there is a negative correlation with intellect.
You are seriously out of touch with reality.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who are all these trashy people getting pregnant in college? That’s insane. I’ve never even heard of this happening to anybody I know but then again I and my children and spouse all went to ivies or equivalents. Maybe there is a negative correlation with intellect.
You are seriously out of touch with reality.
NP. I'll put it this way. The bigger question is why these girls are having sex with boys who are for the most part unacceptable matches?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Who are all these trashy people getting pregnant in college? That’s insane. I’ve never even heard of this happening to anybody I know but then again I and my children and spouse all went to ivies or equivalents. Maybe there is a negative correlation with intellect.
You are seriously out of touch with reality.
Anonymous wrote:Who are all these trashy people getting pregnant in college? That’s insane. I’ve never even heard of this happening to anybody I know but then again I and my children and spouse all went to ivies or equivalents. Maybe there is a negative correlation with intellect.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turn this around to "try hard to get her to give birth" and what would your reaction be? What part of choice do you not understand?Anonymous wrote:She should have an abortion
Try hard to convince her OP. That is what would be best for a 21 year old.
You’re living in la la land if you think the average 21 yo is financially or emotionally prepared to be a parent.
Go read the parenting boards.
People in their thirties with college, graduate school, and years of life and job experience still find it overwhelming and often claim it is “the hardest thing” they’ve ever done, emotionally speaking.
And these are typically UMC people who have lots of surplus money to throw at their problems (seriously, how often do you see “go hire a house cleaner” as a solution to an OP?)
These are people who wanted and planned on their babies and have all their ducks in a row. And it’s still hard AF!
If you can't see what serious potential future problems you'd be setting yourself up for by pushing your adult daughter to have an abortion....we can't help you.
And if you can’t see the problem with pressuring someone to put a baby up for adoption, we can’t help you.
Or if you can’t with having a baby at 20 with no degree, no partner for support, and no money or means of financial support— at a time when Medicaid is being dismantled, CHIP is being defunded, TANF and SNAP are being severely cut, etc, we can’t help you. We get it, you are pro-birth. But poor-Birthers like to end the story as soon as the beautiful white bay is born. If they didn’t, they would have to explain why. There is no social safety net for a young girl, alone with a screaming infant, worried that the kid is sick and unable to take them to the doctor because it is too expensive. Plus, if the kid is sick, the crappy daycare they could afford won’t take them, so they cam’t atrend class. And they can’t afford to fix the car or pay for gas, so they need to take the baby on the bus. And they don’t know how they can afford to feed the kid after the second week of the month, so they are skipping meals.
If you think this is okay... we can’t help you.
There are no great options.
FYI you're responding to more than one person. But: yes, there absolutely are no great choices. The thing is that the daughter needs to make this decision HERSELF, and then deal with the consequences - which, again, exist no matter what she chooses (...yes, apparently some of you are able to get abortions and then never give it a second thought or feel a morsel of guilt, but OP's daughter obviously is not like you). If, however, her parents make the decision for her or push her into one, she will then blame THEM for the consequences.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turn this around to "try hard to get her to give birth" and what would your reaction be? What part of choice do you not understand?Anonymous wrote:She should have an abortion
Try hard to convince her OP. That is what would be best for a 21 year old.
You’re living in la la land if you think the average 21 yo is financially or emotionally prepared to be a parent.
Go read the parenting boards.
People in their thirties with college, graduate school, and years of life and job experience still find it overwhelming and often claim it is “the hardest thing” they’ve ever done, emotionally speaking.
And these are typically UMC people who have lots of surplus money to throw at their problems (seriously, how often do you see “go hire a house cleaner” as a solution to an OP?)
These are people who wanted and planned on their babies and have all their ducks in a row. And it’s still hard AF!
If you can't see what serious potential future problems you'd be setting yourself up for by pushing your adult daughter to have an abortion....we can't help you.
And if you can’t see the problem with pressuring someone to put a baby up for adoption, we can’t help you.
Or if you can’t with having a baby at 20 with no degree, no partner for support, and no money or means of financial support— at a time when Medicaid is being dismantled, CHIP is being defunded, TANF and SNAP are being severely cut, etc, we can’t help you. We get it, you are pro-birth. But poor-Birthers like to end the story as soon as the beautiful white bay is born. If they didn’t, they would have to explain why. There is no social safety net for a young girl, alone with a screaming infant, worried that the kid is sick and unable to take them to the doctor because it is too expensive. Plus, if the kid is sick, the crappy daycare they could afford won’t take them, so they cam’t atrend class. And they can’t afford to fix the car or pay for gas, so they need to take the baby on the bus. And they don’t know how they can afford to feed the kid after the second week of the month, so they are skipping meals.
If you think this is okay... we can’t help you.
There are no great options.