Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She wants to flip a seat in Kansas City “RED in November.”............

https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1020468099152216064

PP.
I’m wondering if the New York voters would like a mulligan.

DP. What is going with on with her? She's a complete ignoramus! It just goes to show that if you promise gullible and clueless people "free stuff," they'll vote you in.

Anonymous wrote:She wants to flip a seat in Kansas City “RED in November.”............

https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1020468099152216064

PP.
I’m wondering if the New York voters would like a mulligan.

Anonymous wrote:That's right. Stop pushing university as a free basic right and demanding the tax payer fund it with .gov money and the price of it sinks like a stone.

Nothing rises in cost like an artificially subsidized product by the government.

If the demand is there, people will pay for it themselves and THEY will hold the university accountable on the cost.

Yes. When goods and services are priced knowing that they will be covered by "other people's money," the cost rises. We see this in healthcare, where an aspirin in a hospital is billed at $10 (insurance pays) or lunchtime restaurants popular with the business set (where the employer pays).

I, for example, am currently in a hotel, where the rates Mon - Thursday were close to double what I paid last night. The difference is the difference in the clientele. During the week, it's primarily business travel, and the "boss" pays. Jack the price up. On the weekends, it's virtually all families, and the individual is responsible for paying, so the price comes down.

If we were to make colleg free at state colleges (well, not free....the government pays), count on prices skyrocketing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^some of these kids with student loans go to Cancun for Spring break and beach weeks in the summer. This is not what loans are for.

Thank you for saying that. There was great abuse of Uncle Sugar's $$$. Now, there's pissing and moaning about the 1.3 Trillion in student loan debt.

Do you have a mortgage? Why are you going on vacation before paying off your debt?

DP. That's not the same thing at all. These loans and grants are provided to pay for a student's educational expenses. If they have money to go to Cancun, then perhaps they don't need as much in the way of government assistance.

I can see it now. If state colleges are free, so now....you have extra money for travel. Maybe Europe next time!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:she's cute. she'll win.

She looks old for her age.

The right is trying to trivialize her with talk about her looks, as a kind of hyper sexualized latina.

Disgusting.

She's not sexy.

Nobody is as ugly as fat old Trump.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^some of these kids with student loans go to Cancun for Spring break and beach weeks in the summer. This is not what loans are for.

Thank you for saying that. There was great abuse of Uncle Sugar's $$$. Now, there's pissing and moaning about the 1.3 Trillion in student loan debt.

Do you have a mortgage? Why are you going on vacation before paying off your debt?

She wants to flip a seat in Kansas City “RED in November.”............

https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1020468099152216064

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:she's cute. she'll win.

She looks old for her age.

The right is trying to trivialize her with talk about her looks, as a kind of hyper sexualized latina.

Disgusting.

She's not sexy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No. I am the one singing the praises of the co-op model, and this is not the same as "free education for children in govt schools." Those in co-ops are not getting a "free" education - they are working their way through, with alternating work and academic semesters.

But why is the education expensive in the first place. It didn't used to be out of sight expensive.

Because the government created ARTIFICIAL inducements to make it cheaper. The universities saw that "easy money", and they said the dollars are rolling in. Let's raise the cost because no one is complaining. "Uncle Sugar is providing; let's sop up all the money!"

Yup. The government is subsidizing the tuition, through subsidized student loans and free grants, enabling colleges to charge even more. Imagine how much they'd charge if they knew that the government was going to pay the whole enchilada!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/student-loans-entice-borrowers-more-for-cash-than-a-degree-1393806050

https://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/09/feds_accuse_newport_man_of_usi.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/06/15/the-high-economic-and-social-costs-of-student-loan-debt.html

http://www.investwithalex.com/what-this-30-year-old-did-with-his-college-loan-is-shameful-take-one-look-and-youll-see-why/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/prestoncooper2/2017/02/22/how-unlimited-student-loans-drive-up-tuition/#4a9a1ac752b6

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-04/what-student-loans-are-really-used-depressing-case-studies

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2011/11/23/why-the-government-is-to-blame-for-high-college-costs

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2014/03/03/borrowers-taking-out-student-loans-for-personal-expenses/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loans are a debt that you owe. It's an obligation.

If they aren't "bad", then why complain about paying them?

In exchange for what? Debt run up to pay for a degree in a poor paying profession is not smart. Which is why following one’s passion is not always wise.

And that is the student's responsibility. Majoring in a soft liberal arts degree at a fancy $50k a year college, is not smart.

But think what would happen if Cortez succeeded in her dreams. We would have millions of college students graduating with useless degrees, and for which we - the taxpayer - are on the hook.

I could see a scenario where the government paid the tuition for qualified students majoring in STEM areas where Americans are coming up short. So that's another way to do it - free college for specific majors to top-scoring students, who are likely to succeed.

Yup. My niece got her Doctorate in Pharmacy and decided she hates it, so went for an MBA. Came out from all that and now complains about 250K plus in debt. Was offered a job in non-profit in which she can do 10 years and they will pay her debt. Her response is "what if I don't like it there?". Sigh. She has very practical degrees and still is all about her feelings.

I'd be ok with a state program where government pays STEM tuition but not a federal program. If the people vote for it in the state, I'm good.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^some of these kids with student loans go to Cancun for Spring break and beach weeks in the summer. This is not what loans are for.

Thank you for saying that. There was great abuse of Uncle Sugar's $$$. Now, there's pissing and moaning about the 1.3 Trillion in student loan debt.

Does anyone have any credible data on what we might call "waste" in the student loan market? As with any social program, there is a certain amount of waste, fraud, and abuse. There always seem to be a few anecdotes which may or may not be apocryphal. But what about real data?

Update: 1.5 Trillion.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2018/06/13/student-loan-debt-statistics-2018/#4f3fe74f7310

Anonymous wrote:^^^some of these kids with student loans go to Cancun for Spring break and beach weeks in the summer. This is not what loans are for.

Thank you for saying that. There was great abuse of Uncle Sugar's $$$. Now, there's pissing and moaning about the 1.3 Trillion in student loan debt.

^^^some of these kids with student loans go to Cancun for Spring break and beach weeks in the summer. This is not what loans are for.