Anonymous wrote:The USA doesn’t need refugees from shithole countries

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of bitching and moaning here and by political pundits, but no real solutions offered.
This is a crisis. And, it was NOT created by this administration. Another problem that needs to be cleaned up by Trump.

So, those of you complaining, hating, and blaming Trump - what exactly is your solution?
- What do you do with children who come through the border with someone who is not family?
- What do you do with children who come over unaccompanied?
- What do you do with children who come over with a parent who breaks the law by entering illegally?
- Where do you propose these family units are held, given that space is limited?
- Specifically, how do we enforce our border laws?

Catch and release, as practiced by previous administrations is not an option. It was one of the policies that caused this problem. Most of those caught and released are still here today, hiding from authorities.

How do we deal with these facts:

Since this time last year, there has been a 325% increase in unaccompanied children entering illegally.
Since this time last year, there has been a 435% increase in family units entering illegally.
Over the last 10 years, there has been a 1,700% increase in asylum claims.
We are experiencing an asylum backlog of 600,000 cases.
Since 2014, the US has admitted more than half a million illegal minors and family units, most of whom are still at large in the US.

You’ve offered no proof of your facts. Where’s your cite? Pulling numbers from some shady bunch of racists like CIS, and aware of how deservedly reviled they are? What in God’s name is the justification for implementing this SPECIFIC TRUMP POLICY? You cool with border agents mocking terrified preK/K/elem kids who don’t know, literally are deliberately not told, if they will **ever** see their parents again?

You’re a faux everything - news reader, intellectual, human. Your wall of bullshit text is just that.

These were the specific numbers given by Kirstjen Nielsen at the press briefing today. I took notes.
And, again.... more bitching and moaning and no solutions.

Another little factoid from today’s briefing. Of the 12,000 kids apprehended who have crossed the border illegally, 10,000 of them came unaccompanied. That means that their parents sent them on this dangerous journey on their own. Their parents don’t seem to have concern for their safety. I would argue that they are getting better treatment, care, and supervision here, in detention, than they received with their parents.

You don't seem well informed. Parents send their kids alone out of complete desperation and because the "coyotes" who help these kids navigate the journey cost upwards of $5,000 - a lifetime savings for some of these families. They have to chose - Sophie's Choice style - which child leaves and has a glimmer of hope of a better life.

You people are so stupid and craven ... It's just sad. I wish we could send you south in exchange for some of these families seeking asylum.

Seriously, I would not defend parents who trust their kids lives to ''coyotes'' human traffickers. Any desperation does not compensate for their actions to send their kids hell knows where with hell knows whom. "Coyote" is pretty suggestive word, you know.

What would y3ou know about being in such a desperate situation? What would you know what it's like to fear constantly for your life and your child's life? What would you know about the hopelessness of extreme poverty?

I am the above PP and on top of what you listed I know first hand what ethnic cleansing is.

And you weren't desperate tonget out? Did you think, "better to sit here and die rather than try to sneak into another country and live?"

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of bitching and moaning here and by political pundits, but no real solutions offered.
This is a crisis. And, it was NOT created by this administration. Another problem that needs to be cleaned up by Trump.

So, those of you complaining, hating, and blaming Trump - what exactly is your solution?
- What do you do with children who come through the border with someone who is not family?
- What do you do with children who come over unaccompanied?
- What do you do with children who come over with a parent who breaks the law by entering illegally?
- Where do you propose these family units are held, given that space is limited?
- Specifically, how do we enforce our border laws?

Catch and release, as practiced by previous administrations is not an option. It was one of the policies that caused this problem. Most of those caught and released are still here today, hiding from authorities.

How do we deal with these facts:

Since this time last year, there has been a 325% increase in unaccompanied children entering illegally.
Since this time last year, there has been a 435% increase in family units entering illegally.
Over the last 10 years, there has been a 1,700% increase in asylum claims.
We are experiencing an asylum backlog of 600,000 cases.
Since 2014, the US has admitted more than half a million illegal minors and family units, most of whom are still at large in the US.

You’ve offered no proof of your facts. Where’s your cite? Pulling numbers from some shady bunch of racists like CIS, and aware of how deservedly reviled they are? What in God’s name is the justification for implementing this SPECIFIC TRUMP POLICY? You cool with border agents mocking terrified preK/K/elem kids who don’t know, literally are deliberately not told, if they will **ever** see their parents again?

You’re a faux everything - news reader, intellectual, human. Your wall of bullshit text is just that.

These were the specific numbers given by Kirstjen Nielsen at the press briefing today. I took notes.
And, again.... more bitching and moaning and no solutions.

Another little factoid from today’s briefing. Of the 12,000 kids apprehended who have crossed the border illegally, 10,000 of them came unaccompanied. That means that their parents sent them on this dangerous journey on their own. Their parents don’t seem to have concern for their safety. I would argue that they are getting better treatment, care, and supervision here, in detention, than they received with their parents.

You don't seem well informed. Parents send their kids alone out of complete desperation and because the "coyotes" who help these kids navigate the journey cost upwards of $5,000 - a lifetime savings for some of these families. They have to chose - Sophie's Choice style - which child leaves and has a glimmer of hope of a better life.

You people are so stupid and craven ... It's just sad. I wish we could send you south in exchange for some of these families seeking asylum.

Seriously, I would not defend parents who trust their kids lives to ''coyotes'' human traffickers. Any desperation does not compensate for their actions to send their kids hell knows where with hell knows whom. "Coyote" is pretty suggestive word, you know.

What would y3ou know about being in such a desperate situation? What would you know what it's like to fear constantly for your life and your child's life? What would you know about the hopelessness of extreme poverty?

I am the above PP and on top of what you listed I know first hand what ethnic cleansing is.

And you weren't desperate tonget out? Did you think, "better to sit here and die rather than try to sneak into another country and live?"

DP. "Extreme poverty" does not qualify one for asylum. They need to come in through legal channels and apply for entry according to our laws. It's ehat my own family did, and they were desperare also.

The reason we have so many illegal immigrants is that they know their children will get free educations, free medical care, free lunches - all paid for by Americsn taxpayers - and of they are in liberal states, in-state tuition and other benefits. We need to reduce the incentives. First, reduce the age cap on whom we are supporting in high school - some states require that 25-year-old "children" still get taxpayer-funded education! Second, there needs to be a "shared payment" fee with Americsn taxpayers who are supporting their children, and if they can't afford it, the parents have to make it up through required volunteer service at the school. No more "the land of freebies for illegal immigrants."

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of bitching and moaning here and by political pundits, but no real solutions offered.
This is a crisis. And, it was NOT created by this administration. Another problem that needs to be cleaned up by Trump.

So, those of you complaining, hating, and blaming Trump - what exactly is your solution?
- What do you do with children who come through the border with someone who is not family?
- What do you do with children who come over unaccompanied?
- What do you do with children who come over with a parent who breaks the law by entering illegally?
- Where do you propose these family units are held, given that space is limited?
- Specifically, how do we enforce our border laws?

Catch and release, as practiced by previous administrations is not an option. It was one of the policies that caused this problem. Most of those caught and released are still here today, hiding from authorities.

How do we deal with these facts:

Since this time last year, there has been a 325% increase in unaccompanied children entering illegally.
Since this time last year, there has been a 435% increase in family units entering illegally.
Over the last 10 years, there has been a 1,700% increase in asylum claims.
We are experiencing an asylum backlog of 600,000 cases.
Since 2014, the US has admitted more than half a million illegal minors and family units, most of whom are still at large in the US.

You’ve offered no proof of your facts. Where’s your cite? Pulling numbers from some shady bunch of racists like CIS, and aware of how deservedly reviled they are? What in God’s name is the justification for implementing this SPECIFIC TRUMP POLICY? You cool with border agents mocking terrified preK/K/elem kids who don’t know, literally are deliberately not told, if they will **ever** see their parents again?

You’re a faux everything - news reader, intellectual, human. Your wall of bullshit text is just that.

These were the specific numbers given by Kirstjen Nielsen at the press briefing today. I took notes.
And, again.... more bitching and moaning and no solutions.

Another little factoid from today’s briefing. Of the 12,000 kids apprehended who have crossed the border illegally, 10,000 of them came unaccompanied. That means that their parents sent them on this dangerous journey on their own. Their parents don’t seem to have concern for their safety. I would argue that they are getting better treatment, care, and supervision here, in detention, than they received with their parents.

You don't seem well informed. Parents send their kids alone out of complete desperation and because the "coyotes" who help these kids navigate the journey cost upwards of $5,000 - a lifetime savings for some of these families. They have to chose - Sophie's Choice style - which child leaves and has a glimmer of hope of a better life.

You people are so stupid and craven ... It's just sad. I wish we could send you south in exchange for some of these families seeking asylum.

Seriously, I would not defend parents who trust their kids lives to ''coyotes'' human traffickers. Any desperation does not compensate for their actions to send their kids hell knows where with hell knows whom. "Coyote" is pretty suggestive word, you know.

What would y3ou know about being in such a desperate situation? What would you know what it's like to fear constantly for your life and your child's life? What would you know about the hopelessness of extreme poverty?

I am the above PP and on top of what you listed I know first hand what ethnic cleansing is.

And you weren't desperate tonget out? Did you think, "better to sit here and die rather than try to sneak into another country and live?"

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of bitching and moaning here and by political pundits, but no real solutions offered.
This is a crisis. And, it was NOT created by this administration. Another problem that needs to be cleaned up by Trump.

So, those of you complaining, hating, and blaming Trump - what exactly is your solution?
- What do you do with children who come through the border with someone who is not family?
- What do you do with children who come over unaccompanied?
- What do you do with children who come over with a parent who breaks the law by entering illegally?
- Where do you propose these family units are held, given that space is limited?
- Specifically, how do we enforce our border laws?

Catch and release, as practiced by previous administrations is not an option. It was one of the policies that caused this problem. Most of those caught and released are still here today, hiding from authorities.

How do we deal with these facts:

Since this time last year, there has been a 325% increase in unaccompanied children entering illegally.
Since this time last year, there has been a 435% increase in family units entering illegally.
Over the last 10 years, there has been a 1,700% increase in asylum claims.
We are experiencing an asylum backlog of 600,000 cases.
Since 2014, the US has admitted more than half a million illegal minors and family units, most of whom are still at large in the US.

You’ve offered no proof of your facts. Where’s your cite? Pulling numbers from some shady bunch of racists like CIS, and aware of how deservedly reviled they are? What in God’s name is the justification for implementing this SPECIFIC TRUMP POLICY? You cool with border agents mocking terrified preK/K/elem kids who don’t know, literally are deliberately not told, if they will **ever** see their parents again?

You’re a faux everything - news reader, intellectual, human. Your wall of bullshit text is just that.

These were the specific numbers given by Kirstjen Nielsen at the press briefing today. I took notes.
And, again.... more bitching and moaning and no solutions.

Another little factoid from today’s briefing. Of the 12,000 kids apprehended who have crossed the border illegally, 10,000 of them came unaccompanied. That means that their parents sent them on this dangerous journey on their own. Their parents don’t seem to have concern for their safety. I would argue that they are getting better treatment, care, and supervision here, in detention, than they received with their parents.

You don't seem well informed. Parents send their kids alone out of complete desperation and because the "coyotes" who help these kids navigate the journey cost upwards of $5,000 - a lifetime savings for some of these families. They have to chose - Sophie's Choice style - which child leaves and has a glimmer of hope of a better life.

You people are so stupid and craven ... It's just sad. I wish we could send you south in exchange for some of these families seeking asylum.

Seriously, I would not defend parents who trust their kids lives to ''coyotes'' human traffickers. Any desperation does not compensate for their actions to send their kids hell knows where with hell knows whom. "Coyote" is pretty suggestive word, you know.

What would y3ou know about being in such a desperate situation? What would you know what it's like to fear constantly for your life and your child's life? What would you know about the hopelessness of extreme poverty?

I am the above PP and on top of what you listed I know first hand what ethnic cleansing is.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of bitching and moaning here and by political pundits, but no real solutions offered.
This is a crisis. And, it was NOT created by this administration. Another problem that needs to be cleaned up by Trump.

So, those of you complaining, hating, and blaming Trump - what exactly is your solution?
- What do you do with children who come through the border with someone who is not family?
- What do you do with children who come over unaccompanied?
- What do you do with children who come over with a parent who breaks the law by entering illegally?
- Where do you propose these family units are held, given that space is limited?
- Specifically, how do we enforce our border laws?

Catch and release, as practiced by previous administrations is not an option. It was one of the policies that caused this problem. Most of those caught and released are still here today, hiding from authorities.

How do we deal with these facts:

Since this time last year, there has been a 325% increase in unaccompanied children entering illegally.
Since this time last year, there has been a 435% increase in family units entering illegally.
Over the last 10 years, there has been a 1,700% increase in asylum claims.
We are experiencing an asylum backlog of 600,000 cases.
Since 2014, the US has admitted more than half a million illegal minors and family units, most of whom are still at large in the US.

You’ve offered no proof of your facts. Where’s your cite? Pulling numbers from some shady bunch of racists like CIS, and aware of how deservedly reviled they are? What in God’s name is the justification for implementing this SPECIFIC TRUMP POLICY? You cool with border agents mocking terrified preK/K/elem kids who don’t know, literally are deliberately not told, if they will **ever** see their parents again?

You’re a faux everything - news reader, intellectual, human. Your wall of bullshit text is just that.

These were the specific numbers given by Kirstjen Nielsen at the press briefing today. I took notes.
And, again.... more bitching and moaning and no solutions.

Another little factoid from today’s briefing. Of the 12,000 kids apprehended who have crossed the border illegally, 10,000 of them came unaccompanied. That means that their parents sent them on this dangerous journey on their own. Their parents don’t seem to have concern for their safety. I would argue that they are getting better treatment, care, and supervision here, in detention, than they received with their parents.

You don't seem well informed. Parents send their kids alone out of complete desperation and because the "coyotes" who help these kids navigate the journey cost upwards of $5,000 - a lifetime savings for some of these families. They have to chose - Sophie's Choice style - which child leaves and has a glimmer of hope of a better life.

You people are so stupid and craven ... It's just sad. I wish we could send you south in exchange for some of these families seeking asylum.

Seriously, I would not defend parents who trust their kids lives to ''coyotes'' human traffickers. Any desperation does not compensate for their actions to send their kids hell knows where with hell knows whom. "Coyote" is pretty suggestive word, you know.

What would you know about being in such a desperate situation? What would you know what it's like to fear constantly for your life and your child's life? What would you know about the hopelessness of extreme poverty?

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Anonymous wrote:What should be done with children taken into custody at border?
(A) Put in Jail with Parents
(B) Turn them loose on streets of USA
(C)Send them back across border alone
(D)Take into custody in facility in USA

Liberal answer: grant amnesty to both the parents and the children.

Conservative answer: jail everybody except POTUS and his co-conspirators, even if that requires putting children in cages because their parents are alleged to have commmitted a misdemeanor in an attempt to seek a better life for their children through the amnesty process.

GOP = F*cking animals.

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Anonymous wrote:The ProPublica audio is absolutely damning.

All of you effectively laughing about this- it’s just a stain on your souls.

+ 2000

+a large number.

I just heard the audio and am crying. Anyone, especially any parent, who isn't condemning this has sold a piece of themselves.

NP. If you can listen to that and not condemn Trump for what he is doing, you are an evil person. That audio is heart wrenching.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking asylum is not even a misdemeanor.

True. All Deplorables in this thread, repeat after me: “Asylum is not a crime. Asylum is not a crime. Asylum is not a crime.”

So why separate kids and parents into separate concentration camps when they have not committed a crime?

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Anonymous wrote:What I love about our country is that the same laws apply equally to all people.

It is now common knowledge that illegal immigration into the United States is being treated as the crime that it legally is. When an adult with a minor child commits a crime, they are detained. Part of that detention is that someone has to take care of their minor children.

Many minor children of detained people --US citizens included, end up in foster care. But while they are waiting for their foster parents, they are placed in group homes. The children's detention center is a very large group home.

So, as a parent, knowing that illegal immigration is no longer tolerated in the US and that you will be separated from your child, why do you as the adult still make the decision to commit the crime?

Because the situation they are fleeing is that bad. The Trump Administration hasn’t figured this out yet.

NP. You’re making this up. You don’t have evidence. Mexico, for example, is not a hell hole. Plenty of people live safe and happy lives there.

Perhaps you need to travel more?

You realize most of these people are not from Mexico, right? They happen to be currently in Mexico because it is the land mass south of the US, but they are fleeing from harrowing situations in other countries.