Anonymous wrote:'Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG!! I was wondering why she hadn't posted in more than a week. I'm sorry she's been struggling.
But, did she seriously post a video of her singing happy birthday with her kid right after a suicide attempt? The contradiction in tone is enough to make my head spin and the appropriateness of it? I feel sorry for that child. Stop posting anything with your kids and go fix yourself so you can take care of them.
No - that was right before her attempt. Let's please not bash her here.
Why not? I still think that is vastly inappropriate. Yes, I hope she gets well but that speaks volumes
I also feel like the timing of this post is a little suspect. I dislike saying that and it feels icky but it’s a gut feeling. I hope things improve for her.
Bloggers are attention seekers and want attention. Suicide attempts and following through are an attention getter. You have to wonder ... and why would you post so much personal information your kids can find later on about both them and you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because no child needs to hear the graphic details of his mother's decision to take her own life and the gruesome hospitalization that followed! Maybe when they're adults or close to it, but we're talking all kids 12 and under.
Can you imagine what happens when some classmate hears about this from his/her mother and then 20 minutes later the whole school knows that so-and-so's mom hated life so much that she tried to kill herself right after her child's birthday party?
It's bad enough that she put the children through all this in the first place, but to air everything publicly in a way that exposes all of them to taunting and bullying -- just so lots of people can write lovey-dovey comments -- is gross and selfish and tacky.
I don't know. Mental illness is real. Suicide is real and it's increasing. Maybe if we didn't treat it as taboo people would feel more able to discuss their feelings openly and we could prevent attempts like this.
DP here. Suicide is real and increasing, but the cause of that trajectory is unknown. Who's to say it's not increasing because we do talk about it so openly and get lovey-dovey comments and affirmation that we are loved and all this validation that other people see and crave as well? I don't want to kick mental health issues under the rug by any means, and I don't think depression and anxiety are things to be ashamed of or should be in any way taboo. I'm not so sure about suicide though. What devastation for her family and friends she would have left in her wake had she succeeded. How can we not acknowledge that too, while we also realize that she is suffering and isn't thinking clearly?
I don't think you understand depression or mental illness. People aren't doing it for attention. When we start treating mental illness as a medical issue, people will be able to discuss it more openly.
Anonymous wrote:"But you mentioned bullying and taunting by schoolmates, which I think is highly unlikely."
You must have gone to much nicer schools than some of us did...
Anonymous wrote:"Suicide is real and it's increasing. Maybe if we didn't treat it as taboo people would feel more able to discuss their feelings openly and we could prevent attempts like this."
Lots of awful, horrible things are real, but that doesn't mean you expose your children to them before they're old enough to process and understand.
I'm willing to bet that they wouldn't want their boys to watch a graphic documentary about child molesting or the Manson murders or read a detailed account of the atrocities of the Holocaust. All of those things are real, and horrific, and not appropriate for children.
It should never be the child's responsibility to process and emotionally account for his parents' bad decisions. Putting all this detail out there in the wild just makes it more likely that all 3 of her boys will have to deal with this tragedy publicly, and that's a lot to put on a kid who is already dealing with a significant trauma.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because no child needs to hear the graphic details of his mother's decision to take her own life and the gruesome hospitalization that followed! Maybe when they're adults or close to it, but we're talking all kids 12 and under.
Can you imagine what happens when some classmate hears about this from his/her mother and then 20 minutes later the whole school knows that so-and-so's mom hated life so much that she tried to kill herself right after her child's birthday party?
It's bad enough that she put the children through all this in the first place, but to air everything publicly in a way that exposes all of them to taunting and bullying -- just so lots of people can write lovey-dovey comments -- is gross and selfish and tacky.
I don't know. Mental illness is real. Suicide is real and it's increasing. Maybe if we didn't treat it as taboo people would feel more able to discuss their feelings openly and we could prevent attempts like this.
DP here. Suicide is real and increasing, but the cause of that trajectory is unknown. Who's to say it's not increasing because we do talk about it so openly and get lovey-dovey comments and affirmation that we are loved and all this validation that other people see and crave as well? I don't want to kick mental health issues under the rug by any means, and I don't think depression and anxiety are things to be ashamed of or should be in any way taboo. I'm not so sure about suicide though. What devastation for her family and friends she would have left in her wake had she succeeded. How can we not acknowledge that too, while we also realize that she is suffering and isn't thinking clearly?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because no child needs to hear the graphic details of his mother's decision to take her own life and the gruesome hospitalization that followed! Maybe when they're adults or close to it, but we're talking all kids 12 and under.
Can you imagine what happens when some classmate hears about this from his/her mother and then 20 minutes later the whole school knows that so-and-so's mom hated life so much that she tried to kill herself right after her child's birthday party?
It's bad enough that she put the children through all this in the first place, but to air everything publicly in a way that exposes all of them to taunting and bullying -- just so lots of people can write lovey-dovey comments -- is gross and selfish and tacky.
Your boys might not care about a blog written by their friend's parent. But they would care to read a blog about your suicide attempt.
She's a writer, and a good one, and she's certainly not glamorizing anything. Kids don't care about what other kids' parents do or think or their mental health. I have boys her sons' ages and there is nothing they care about less than gossip about the moms. My kids barely know who any of their friends' parents are unless they are particularly close.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because no child needs to hear the graphic details of his mother's decision to take her own life and the gruesome hospitalization that followed! Maybe when they're adults or close to it, but we're talking all kids 12 and under.
Can you imagine what happens when some classmate hears about this from his/her mother and then 20 minutes later the whole school knows that so-and-so's mom hated life so much that she tried to kill herself right after her child's birthday party?
It's bad enough that she put the children through all this in the first place, but to air everything publicly in a way that exposes all of them to taunting and bullying -- just so lots of people can write lovey-dovey comments -- is gross and selfish and tacky.
Your boys might not care about a blog written by their friend's parent. But they would care to read a blog about your suicide attempt.
She's a writer, and a good one, and she's certainly not glamorizing anything. Kids don't care about what other kids' parents do or think or their mental health. I have boys her sons' ages and there is nothing they care about less than gossip about the moms. My kids barely know who any of their friends' parents are unless they are particularly close.
Anonymous wrote:Because no child needs to hear the graphic details of his mother's decision to take her own life and the gruesome hospitalization that followed! Maybe when they're adults or close to it, but we're talking all kids 12 and under.
Can you imagine what happens when some classmate hears about this from his/her mother and then 20 minutes later the whole school knows that so-and-so's mom hated life so much that she tried to kill herself right after her child's birthday party?
It's bad enough that she put the children through all this in the first place, but to air everything publicly in a way that exposes all of them to taunting and bullying -- just so lots of people can write lovey-dovey comments -- is gross and selfish and tacky.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because no child needs to hear the graphic details of his mother's decision to take her own life and the gruesome hospitalization that followed! Maybe when they're adults or close to it, but we're talking all kids 12 and under.
Can you imagine what happens when some classmate hears about this from his/her mother and then 20 minutes later the whole school knows that so-and-so's mom hated life so much that she tried to kill herself right after her child's birthday party?
It's bad enough that she put the children through all this in the first place, but to air everything publicly in a way that exposes all of them to taunting and bullying -- just so lots of people can write lovey-dovey comments -- is gross and selfish and tacky.
I don't know. Mental illness is real. Suicide is real and it's increasing. Maybe if we didn't treat it as taboo people would feel more able to discuss their feelings openly and we could prevent attempts like this.