Anonymous wrote:So what option can fit at Tuckahoe? Is it ATS? Are they dialing ATS seat expansion back? Or is this step one towards ending some of these choice schools finally?are they going to scale down immersion programs?

Anonymous wrote:My kindergartener at key is in a windowless classroom with no bathroom. Having bathroom s in the classroom door prek and k and 1st might be a best practice, but it is not a rqmt.

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Before anyone jumps on me for just trying to deflect from Tuckahoe, let me say that up to now I've been pretty vocal in this discussion and others about Tuckahoe being a viable option school. The preschool thing literally just occurred to me, but I think it's an important consideration if we're sincere about wanting to create/maintain opportunities for lower-income students in Arlington.

The county doesn't seem to have an issue with having preschools without bathrooms in the classroom. I don't think Madison has them...do the other preschool locations?

The standards are different for public and private preschool programs.

The preschools at community centers are public. Maybe APS has different standards...or maybe a classroom or two of first graders could sacrifice.

Madison isn't a preschool, it's a co-operative playgroup. Same with Lee and Fairlington.

Kind of a moot point since Tuckahoe has a preschool

https://parks.arlingtonva.us/programs/tots/creative-preschool-program/

Preschoolers Programs are offered at 5 convenient Arlington locations

Carlin Hall Center
Gunston Community Center
Lubber Run Community Center (through June 2018)
Madison Community Center
Fairlington Community Center
Langston-Brown Community Center (after June 2018

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Before anyone jumps on me for just trying to deflect from Tuckahoe, let me say that up to now I've been pretty vocal in this discussion and others about Tuckahoe being a viable option school. The preschool thing literally just occurred to me, but I think it's an important consideration if we're sincere about wanting to create/maintain opportunities for lower-income students in Arlington.

The county doesn't seem to have an issue with having preschools without bathrooms in the classroom. I don't think Madison has them...do the other preschool locations?

The standards are different for public and private preschool programs.

The preschools at community centers are public. Maybe APS has different standards...or maybe a classroom or two of first graders could sacrifice.

Madison isn't a preschool, it's a co-operative playgroup. Same with Lee and Fairlington.

Anonymous wrote:One thing to consider as we debate moving option schools is that all of the option schools also have VPI programs, and students currently in those VPI classes have the option of continuing at those schools when they enter kindergarten rather than transferring to their neighborhood school (except for Drew, because it's Montessori and VPI isn't). If you move one of those option schools to an elementary school that isn't currently outfitted for a preschool program, you'd either have to discontinue that school's preschool program or do a major renovation to accommodate a preschool program. Neither Tuckahoe nor Nottingham currently has a preschool program. I know Nottingham doesn't have enough classrooms with their own bathrooms to accommodate a preschool program in addition to kindergarten and first grade classes (all of which are supposed to have bathrooms in the classrooms), does Tuckahoe?

Moving ATS further north to a location that couldn't accommodate the VPI program would potentially kill its diversity numbers and make it a school for the white UMC of North Arlington only.

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the CCPTA run by Tuckahoe parents?

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Anonymous wrote:what position exactly are they pushing? the only thing you've included here is a list of suggested considerations? isn't that what APS asked for in the survey? why is that advocacy against anyone's interests?

If you read the whole discussion before jumping in to criticize people, you would have seen the letter sent by the PTA to the SB advocating for Tuckahoe to remain a neighborhood school (which necessarily would come at the expense of other interests). There is a whole page on the Tuckahoe website under the PTA link with similar advocacy.

How can the CCPTA advocate for all of the PTAs in Arlington? If the Tuckahoe PTA is gaming the system should the rest of the Arlington county PTAs advise the SB to move an option school balancing enrollment? Especially in drastically overcrowded parts of APS. How else can the CCPTA provide advice to the SB?

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Anonymous wrote:what position exactly are they pushing? the only thing you've included here is a list of suggested considerations? isn't that what APS asked for in the survey? why is that advocacy against anyone's interests?

If you read the whole discussion before jumping in to criticize people, you would have seen the letter sent by the PTA to the SB advocating for Tuckahoe to remain a neighborhood school (which necessarily would come at the expense of other interests). There is a whole page on the Tuckahoe website under the PTA link with similar advocacy.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing to consider as we debate moving option schools is that all of the option schools also have VPI programs, and students currently in those VPI classes have the option of continuing at those schools when they enter kindergarten rather than transferring to their neighborhood school (except for Drew, because it's Montessori and VPI isn't). If you move one of those option schools to an elementary school that isn't currently outfitted for a preschool program, you'd either have to discontinue that school's preschool program or do a major renovation to accommodate a preschool program. Neither Tuckahoe nor Nottingham currently has a preschool program. I know Nottingham doesn't have enough classrooms with their own bathrooms to accommodate a preschool program in addition to kindergarten and first grade classes (all of which are supposed to have bathrooms in the classrooms), does Tuckahoe?

Moving ATS further north to a location that couldn't accommodate the VPI program would potentially kill its diversity numbers and make it a school for the white UMC of North Arlington only.

Before anyone jumps on me for just trying to deflect from Tuckahoe, let me say that up to now I've been pretty vocal in this discussion and others about Tuckahoe being a viable option school. The preschool thing literally just occurred to me, but I think it's an important consideration if we're sincere about wanting to create/maintain opportunities for lower-income students in Arlington.

Come on now, I'm sure some of the white UMC of South Arlington will be willing to make the trip as well.

Seriously though, would automatic transfers work? Outreach and low income quotas in the ATS K Program? Can you have low income quotas in a choice program? I don't even know if that's legal.