Anonymous
02/19/2018 09:26
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Teachers can be reprimanded for even using work email to lobby the school board. My entire career I've known we shouldn't present our own political views in class. That's one of the biggest things people complain about,teachers politicizing their classroom, yet you think it's ok now to pull a group of second graders out of class in protest?
The teachers aren't pulling the second-graders out of class. The teachers are pulling themselves out of class. Who will supervise the second-graders? Well, if I were a school administrator, I'd start making plans.
Even in that case, using the school day in protest, won't go over well.
Anonymous
02/19/2018 09:22
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:
Teachers can be reprimanded for even using work email to lobby the school board. My entire career I've known we shouldn't present our own political views in class. That's one of the biggest things people complain about,teachers politicizing their classroom, yet you think it's ok now to pull a group of second graders out of class in protest?
The teachers aren't pulling the second-graders out of class. The teachers are pulling themselves out of class. Who will supervise the second-graders? Well, if I were a school administrator, I'd start making plans.
Anonymous
02/19/2018 09:19
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
+1
They're not mutually exclusive actions. You can work for better mental health care policies and programs AND ALSO for more regulation of guns.
Or, if your energies don't extend to both, you can work for one, while supporting other people's work for the other.
All of these "No, you shouldn't protest, it's bad, it's a waste of time, it won't accomplish anything!" posts make me think that people who oppose the goals of the protests are worried that protesting actually will accomplish something. Good. They should be worried.
NP
I don't have a problem with protests. I have a problem with dragging children into the protests.
Well I have a problem with dragging children into a school where they aren't safe. I'd rather a child at a protest than at a funeral.
Teachers can be reprimanded for even using work email to lobby the school board. My entire career I've known we shouldn't present our own political views in class. That's one of the biggest things people complain about,teachers politicizing their classroom, yet you think it's ok now to pull a group of second graders out of class in protest?
Anonymous
02/19/2018 09:17
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
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All the mental health care in the world won't help this kind of situation if we have easy access to guns.
This kid had access to mental health care. Lots of it. The school and family intervened many, many times. That didn't stop him from accessing a highly lethal weapon. Those types of guns have no business being readily available. There are too many angry and violent people in this country to warrant that kind of access.
Anonymous
02/19/2018 09:13
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
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You know what will help mental health care in this country? Access to health care for all Americans. I find it disconcerting that the Republicans who are some quick to say "it's not guns! it's mental health!" are also the ones fighting so hard against universal access to health care.
Anonymous
02/19/2018 09:10
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
+1
They're not mutually exclusive actions. You can work for better mental health care policies and programs AND ALSO for more regulation of guns.
Or, if your energies don't extend to both, you can work for one, while supporting other people's work for the other.
All of these "No, you shouldn't protest, it's bad, it's a waste of time, it won't accomplish anything!" posts make me think that people who oppose the goals of the protests are worried that protesting actually will accomplish something. Good. They should be worried.
NP
I don't have a problem with protests. I have a problem with dragging children into the protests.
Well I have a problem with dragging children into a school where they aren't safe. I'd rather a child at a protest than at a funeral.
Anonymous
02/19/2018 01:20
Subject: If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Best idea. Keep teaching, and donate 10 weeks pay to your cause.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 21:47
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
You might want to read the NYTimes study on this subject that was published Friday. It's been studied in depth. The number of killings corresponds almost perfectly to the number of guns in our nation. Mental health problems are similar in other countries that don't have all these guns. They also don't have all the killings or mass shooters at schools.
Correct, they have mass stabbings instead. Crazy is crazy, you can’t change that
They stil have fewer homicides.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 21:00
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
+1
You do realize that mental health experts say that they can NOT predict these things right?
Anonymous
02/18/2018 20:33
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
+1
They're not mutually exclusive actions. You can work for better mental health care policies and programs AND ALSO for more regulation of guns.
Or, if your energies don't extend to both, you can work for one, while supporting other people's work for the other.
All of these "No, you shouldn't protest, it's bad, it's a waste of time, it won't accomplish anything!" posts make me think that people who oppose the goals of the protests are worried that protesting actually will accomplish something. Good. They should be worried.
NP
I don't have a problem with protests. I have a problem with dragging children into the protests.
Good thing it’s the children leading the protests.
Was referencing elementary students, not HS.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 20:00
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
+1
They're not mutually exclusive actions. You can work for better mental health care policies and programs AND ALSO for more regulation of guns.
Or, if your energies don't extend to both, you can work for one, while supporting other people's work for the other.
All of these "No, you shouldn't protest, it's bad, it's a waste of time, it won't accomplish anything!" posts make me think that people who oppose the goals of the protests are worried that protesting actually will accomplish something. Good. They should be worried.
NP
I don't have a problem with protests. I have a problem with dragging children into the protests.
Good thing it’s the children leading the protests.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 18:41
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:
NP
I don't have a problem with protests. I have a problem with dragging children into the protests.
For a protest to be effective, it has to inconvenience somebody. A protest that doesn't get in anybody's way and doesn't bother anybody is a protest that nobody notices. And what's the point of that?
Anonymous
02/18/2018 18:35
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
+1
They're not mutually exclusive actions. You can work for better mental health care policies and programs AND ALSO for more regulation of guns.
Or, if your energies don't extend to both, you can work for one, while supporting other people's work for the other.
All of these "No, you shouldn't protest, it's bad, it's a waste of time, it won't accomplish anything!" posts make me think that people who oppose the goals of the protests are worried that protesting actually will accomplish something. Good. They should be worried.
NP
I don't have a problem with protests. I have a problem with dragging children into the protests.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 18:32
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
+1
They're not mutually exclusive actions. You can work for better mental health care policies and programs AND ALSO for more regulation of guns.
Or, if your energies don't extend to both, you can work for one, while supporting other people's work for the other.
All of these "No, you shouldn't protest, it's bad, it's a waste of time, it won't accomplish anything!" posts make me think that people who oppose the goals of the protests are worried that protesting actually will accomplish something. Good. They should be worried.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 18:25
Subject: Re:If teachers strike nationally, could they bring the NRA to its knees?
Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher. I do not own a gun and I have no intention of ever owning a gun; however, I am NOT going to strike over "the NRA" and wanting to "bring the NRA to its knees". I don't think the NRA is the real problem. I think that our poor mental health care policies are the problem. I also think the problem is some people not doing their jobs and some family members not being proactive in getting a love one mental health help.
If you want to do something then I suggest that rather than depriving children of their right to an education you should caucus your local, state and federal legislatures for changes in mental health care policy and programs. There is no way that I am supporting the nonsense of a strike.
+1