Anonymous
03/02/2018 08:38
Subject: Re:Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I only read the first few pages of this post, but as a JMU grad, the comparisons between JMU and Tech are interesting. When I graduated high school (90, so a long time ago!) JMU was quite superior to Tech academically (engineering the exception then also). Interesting to hear that they are even or maybe Tech is a bit above JMU now in overall academics. I grew up in VA and our top top students from highs school all went UVA or WM, darn near close to top went to JMU and the above average kids went to Tech. VCU and Radford were much easier to get into. In 5 years or so I'll be looking at this again for my kids but good to know how things change.
I can say that JMU was an absolutely amazing place to go to college. Such a friendly campus, fun students, plenty of parties and plenty of space to be yourself.
I find this surprising. I went to college in the 80's, in the sciences (not engineering). I guess it depends on the major. Sure, you do not go to tech for an english major, but in the sciences it was much better than JMU.
+1 The admissions profile and ranking for JMU has not been higher than VTech any time in the last 4 decades at least. Now that doesn't tell you what some high school students *thought* at the time, especially pre-internet. Maybe if you and your friends weren't primarily science-oriented, VTech wouldn't be as much on your radar and JMU at that time was the "better" school from that perspective. I think the really interesting thing now is that looking at the common data set, at this point GMU is now slightly harder to get into than JMU--and its average GPA, SAT, and ACT are all marginally higher. I think that's the real surprise in recent years: JMU isn't in the running with VTech anymore, it's in competition with GMU. But I don't think it's because JMU has "slipped" more the explosive growth of GMU. That said, as others have noted, among NOVA students there may be a bit of a bias against GMU because it's too close to home. JMU is also cheaper. But students graduating from GMU have much higher average starting salaries than JMU, so maybe from a financial standpoint, it's a tie also?
Anonymous
03/02/2018 08:21
Subject: Re:Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:I only read the first few pages of this post, but as a JMU grad, the comparisons between JMU and Tech are interesting. When I graduated high school (90, so a long time ago!) JMU was quite superior to Tech academically (engineering the exception then also). Interesting to hear that they are even or maybe Tech is a bit above JMU now in overall academics. I grew up in VA and our top top students from highs school all went UVA or WM, darn near close to top went to JMU and the above average kids went to Tech. VCU and Radford were much easier to get into. In 5 years or so I'll be looking at this again for my kids but good to know how things change.
I can say that JMU was an absolutely amazing place to go to college. Such a friendly campus, fun students, plenty of parties and plenty of space to be yourself.
I find this surprising. I went to college in the 80's, in the sciences (not engineering). I guess it depends on the major. Sure, you do not go to tech for an english major, but in the sciences it was much better than JMU.
Anonymous
03/01/2018 21:28
Subject: Re:Rank these VA public universities
I only read the first few pages of this post, but as a JMU grad, the comparisons between JMU and Tech are interesting. When I graduated high school (90, so a long time ago!) JMU was quite superior to Tech academically (engineering the exception then also). Interesting to hear that they are even or maybe Tech is a bit above JMU now in overall academics. I grew up in VA and our top top students from highs school all went UVA or WM, darn near close to top went to JMU and the above average kids went to Tech. VCU and Radford were much easier to get into. In 5 years or so I'll be looking at this again for my kids but good to know how things change.
I can say that JMU was an absolutely amazing place to go to college. Such a friendly campus, fun students, plenty of parties and plenty of space to be yourself.
I can say that JMU was an absolutely amazing place to go to college. Such a friendly campus, fun students, plenty of parties and plenty of space to be yourself.
Anonymous
03/01/2018 13:27
Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:George Mason Out of State Students by Year (Entering Freshman)
2017: 20%
2016 - 19%
2015 - 21%
2014 - 20%
2013 - 20%
2001 - 11% (this is the oldest one posted on website)
Why would anyone from out of state go to this school other than on a scholarship?
Good lord are you ignorant.
About what?
Anonymous
03/01/2018 13:08
Subject: Re:Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote: Naviance from a mid-range FCPS hs: (Gives average scores from past 10 years of accepted students)
UVA: 4.37 GPA/1368 SAT
W&M 4.32 GPA/1404 SAT
VT: 4.14 GPA/1304 SAT
JMU 3.94 GPA/1220 SAT
GMU 3.89 GPA/1220 SAT
VCU 3.62 GPA/1202 SAT
CNU 3.72 GPA/1200 SAT
UMW 3.65 GPA/1155 SAT
A better measure is GPA where 90% or more will be accepted. You will find it is somewhat lower.
Anonymous
03/01/2018 13:06
Subject: Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't have access to Naviance and it is too early for us to know about these things in detail... Curious on GMU.
Is it s big draw for out of state students? How has that changed over the years? How about their expected averages and ranking over time? I see a lot of development around campus and was wondering if that's a result of their improved stature..
If you the OP, go and Google the common data set for all the Virginia schools that interest you. That will give you many of the answers you seek.
Here's GMU move-in day for class of 2021 - 3500 students, representing 83 countries and 49 states. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZZpFpR6LY. The Schrev reports have the GPA of the entering class of 2021 at 3.90 for top 25%, and bottom 25% at 3.40. My child has lived in the dorm all four years and has had lots of OOS and international students as roommates or suitemates. My child had a great four years. The only downside to Mason is the constant construction. The upside are the new facilities and dorms. There are now several campuses including the new one in songdo, N. Korea. GMU is now the largest university in Virginia. This will get you started: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University
Anonymous
03/01/2018 12:43
Subject: Re:Rank these VA public universities
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Naviance from a mid-range FCPS hs: (Gives average scores from past 10 years of accepted students)
1.UVA: 4.37 GPA/1368 SAT --- W&M 4.32 GPA/1404 SAT (W&M kids have slightly higher SATs, UVA slightly higher GPA).
2. VT: 4.14 GPA/1304 SAT (Engineering not separated out, if engineering same as group above)
3. JMU 3.94 GPA/1220 SAT---GMU 3.89 GPA/1220 SAT (difference of .05 GPA not meaningful, also GMU on the rise in competitiveness)
4. VCU 3.62 GPA/1202 SAT---CNU 3.72 GPA/1200 SAT
5. UMW 3.65 GPA/1155 SAT and all the other public colleges/universities
This is the way I group/rank them in terms of terms of competitiveness as I think about reaches/matches/safeties for my NOVA hs daughter who will likely fall near median for W&M/UVA (4.25 GPA in rigorous courseload/1420 PSAT--we don't have SAT scores yet). I think of UVA/W&M as reaches. Definitely not a sure thing. VT as a match (DD not interested in engineering) though also not a sure thing. JMU and GMU as somewhere between safety and match(e.g. she'd probably get in and be eligible for their honors colleges etc.). Everything else as a safety. Her hs counselor agrees with this ranking/perception of reaches/matches/safeties. She suggests if W&M is top choice, we should apply Early Decision. If not, apply UVA Early Action.
AnonymousAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:George Mason Out of State Students by Year (Entering Freshman)
2017: 20%
2016 - 19%
2015 - 21%
2014 - 20%
2013 - 20%
2001 - 11% (this is the oldest one posted on website)
Why would anyone from out of state go to this school other than on a scholarship?
Good lord are you ignorant.AnonymousAnonymous wrote:George Mason Out of State Students by Year (Entering Freshman)
2017: 20%
2016 - 19%
2015 - 21%
2014 - 20%
2013 - 20%
2001 - 11% (this is the oldest one posted on website)
Why would anyone from out of state go to this school other than on a scholarship?AnonymousGeorge Mason Out of State Students by Year (Entering Freshman)
2017: 20%
2016 - 19%
2015 - 21%
2014 - 20%
2013 - 20%
2001 - 11% (this is the oldest one posted on website)AnonymousAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Naviance from a mid-range FCPS hs: (Gives average scores from past 10 years of accepted students)
UVA: 4.37 GPA/1368 SAT
W&M 4.32 GPA/1404 SAT
VT: 4.14 GPA/1304 SAT
JMU 3.94 GPA/1220 SAT
GMU 3.89 GPA/1220 SAT
VCU 3.62 GPA/1202 SAT
CNU 3.72 GPA/1200 SAT
UMW 3.65 GPA/1155 SAT
I would say none of these stats are anything to sneer at (directed to some of the prior PPs, not you).
This is basically the same ranking from the 90’s.
Maybe JMU had a slight edge on Tech at the time. Tech seemed to be a bit more ( teeny tiny bit) of a safety at the time.
But ultimately the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Neither JMU nor VT are safety schools for most kids these days.
You really need a 4.0 and have completed calculus with an A to get into VT engineering.
You need more than that. I know a kid who had a 4.5 including an A in calculus who was rejected from Tech Engineering, and he wasn't even from NOVA.AnonymousAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Naviance from a mid-range FCPS hs: (Gives average scores from past 10 years of accepted students)
UVA: 4.37 GPA/1368 SAT
W&M 4.32 GPA/1404 SAT
VT: 4.14 GPA/1304 SAT
JMU 3.94 GPA/1220 SAT
GMU 3.89 GPA/1220 SAT
VCU 3.62 GPA/1202 SAT
CNU 3.72 GPA/1200 SAT
UMW 3.65 GPA/1155 SAT
I would say none of these stats are anything to sneer at (directed to some of the prior PPs, not you).
This is basically the same ranking from the 90’s.
Maybe JMU had a slight edge on Tech at the time. Tech seemed to be a bit more ( teeny tiny bit) of a safety at the time.
But ultimately the more things change, the more they stay the same.
+1. I posted earlier asking if JMU slipped, but according to this list JMU is still in the top 4, same as it was when I graduated HS in 90.AnonymousAnonymous wrote:I don't have access to Naviance and it is too early for us to know about these things in detail... Curious on GMU.
Is it s big draw for out of state students? How has that changed over the years? How about their expected averages and ranking over time? I see a lot of development around campus and was wondering if that's a result of their improved stature..
If you the OP, go and Google the common data set for all the Virginia schools that interest you. That will give you many of the answers you seek.AnonymousAnonymous wrote:m”bricks and boredom “?Anonymous wrote:Go UVA or go home. Or W&M if bricks and boredom are your things.
Ignore the trolls.Anonymousm”bricks and boredom “?Anonymous wrote:Go UVA or go home. Or W&M if bricks and boredom are your things.