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Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

I have no ill will at all toward the families filing. Because I understand that they will not receive this amount, what they receive will be from insurance, and will not bring down the school by fact of this lawsuit (or shouldn't). And they do deserve some compensation.

But I do have ill will now toward a lot of people on this thread who seem to be gleefully hoping the school closes down.

I have ill will towards all institutions who are complicit in and support the abuse of children, or anyone. I will own that. Because the children, not you, were the victims. For the record I also harbor ill will towards the Catholic Church, the board of the Weinstein Companies, Roger Ailes and the board at Fox, and every other institution that sat back or enabled abuse and crimes. But thanks to people like you and the genius who is mad at the families suing, now I'm wondering if the LAMB community should be indicted along with the board and administration. If you and your little friend are any indication, maybe so.

And yet if the school shuts down, won't it be children who lose out? Also, please explain how hoping the school does not shut down makes me a target of your negative assessment of the LAMB community.

And yet if the school shuts down, won't it be children who lose out?

That is a slippery slope you are on my friend. Lots of rapists and molesters also do good works. Sure, they victimized children and those children suffered for years and will be saddled with the after effects for years to come, but look at all the charity work he/she did. What's one victim against all of that good? You know what we should do? We should create a formula for how much abuse you can foist on a child against what kind of good you also do. You start. How much to molest a kid? Is a monetary donation enough or must they also have foundation to actually administer the good. Propose a formula.

Also, please explain how hoping the school does not shut down makes me a target of your negative assessment of the LAMB community.

Strangely I wasn't actually sure if I was reading more into your post than I should have. Was it fair to loop you in with the other self interested a-hole? And then you replied and put my mind at ease. What I reacted to (that you subsequently confirmed) was the phrase that you are ok with the suit because they won't get as much as they are requesting. How much to diddle your son/daughter? Seriously. Over the clothes? Under the outerwear but over the underwear? What if it was only once? Or only over a school year? Or what if your elementary school kid seemed to like it? What if your kid was abused but they didn't have to see the abuser again every day after it was exposed? How much of a multiplier if your abused kid then had to go back to school and see their abuser again?

Your post imputed a level of greed in the complaint. According to the complaint the administration let it happen, ignored warnings, hid the investigation, let him come back and repeated the abuse. Then they lied to the community about it. But for their actions his reign of terror would have ended after the first suspension.

So, yeah, I'm ok looping you in with the first poster.

P.S. If you want to extend your "greater good" argument I would suggest to you that the lawsuit shuttering LAMB would do more to prevent this from ever happening at any school ever again than would a slap on the wrist or hit to an insurance premium. Surely you would sacrifice the LAMB community for the sake of all school age children across the land, right?

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Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

I have no ill will at all toward the families filing. Because I understand that they will not receive this amount, what they receive will be from insurance, and will not bring down the school by fact of this lawsuit (or shouldn't). And they do deserve some compensation.

But I do have ill will now toward a lot of people on this thread who seem to be gleefully hoping the school closes down.

I have ill will towards all institutions who are complicit in and support the abuse of children, or anyone. I will own that. Because the children, not you, were the victims. For the record I also harbor ill will towards the Catholic Church, the board of the Weinstein Companies, Roger Ailes and the board at Fox, and every other institution that sat back or enabled abuse and crimes. But thanks to people like you and the genius who is mad at the families suing, now I'm wondering if the LAMB community should be indicted along with the board and administration. If you and your little friend are any indication, maybe so.

And yet if the school shuts down, won't it be children who lose out? Also, please explain how hoping the school does not shut down makes me a target of your negative assessment of the LAMB community.

And yet if the school shuts down, won't it be children who lose out?

That is a slippery slope you are on my friend. Lots of rapists and molesters also do good works. Sure, they victimized children and those children suffered for years and will be saddled with the after effects for years to come, but look at all the charity work he/she did. What's one victim against all of that good? You know what we should do? We should create a formula for how much abuse you can foist on a child against what kind of good you also do. You start. How much to molest a kid? Is a monetary donation enough or must they also have foundation to actually administer the good. Propose a formula.

Also, please explain how hoping the school does not shut down makes me a target of your negative assessment of the LAMB community.

Strangely I wasn't actually sure if I was reading more into your post than I should have. Was it fair to loop you in with the other self interested a-hole? And then you replied and put my mind at ease. What I reacted to (that you subsequently confirmed) was the phrase that you are ok with the suit because they won't get as much as they are requesting. How much to diddle your son/daughter? Seriously. Over the clothes? Under the outerwear but over the underwear? What if it was only once? Or only over a school year? Or what if your elementary school kid seemed to like it? What if your kid was abused but they didn't have to see the abuser again every day after it was exposed? How much of a multiplier if your abused kid then had to go back to school and see their abuser again?

Your post imputed a level of greed in the complaint. According to the complaint the administration let it happen, ignored warnings, hid the investigation, let him come back and repeated the abuse. Then they lied to the community about it. But for their actions his reign of terror would have ended after the first suspension.

So, yeah, I'm ok looping you in with the first poster.

P.S. If you want to extend your "greater good" argument I would suggest to you that the lawsuit shuttering LAMB would do more to prevent this from ever happening at any school ever again than would a slap on the wrist or hit to an insurance premium. Surely you would sacrifice the LAMB community for the sake of all school age children across the land, right?

Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

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Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

Christ, do you not understand how lawsuits work. Rose families are unlikely to get today full amount. But don't you think that they deserve something so they can offset the cost of therapy those children will need. This isn't a frivolous slip and fall case. Your school isn't going to close over night, if it does at all. Show some compassion. What an ugly post.

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Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

I have no ill will at all toward the families filing. Because I understand that they will not receive this amount, what they receive will be from insurance, and will not bring down the school by fact of this lawsuit (or shouldn't). And they do deserve some compensation.

But I do have ill will now toward a lot of people on this thread who seem to be gleefully hoping the school closes down.

I have ill will towards all institutions who are complicit in and support the abuse of children, or anyone. I will own that. Because the children, not you, were the victims. For the record I also harbor ill will towards the Catholic Church, the board of the Weinstein Companies, Roger Ailes and the board at Fox, and every other institution that sat back or enabled abuse and crimes. But thanks to people like you and the genius who is mad at the families suing, now I'm wondering if the LAMB community should be indicted along with the board and administration. If you and your little friend are any indication, maybe so.

And yet if the school shuts down, won't it be children who lose out? Also, please explain how hoping the school does not shut down makes me a target of your negative assessment of the LAMB community.

LAMB has a large cohort of high SES kids that would likely do well in other schools too.

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Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

I have no ill will at all toward the families filing. Because I understand that they will not receive this amount, what they receive will be from insurance, and will not bring down the school by fact of this lawsuit (or shouldn't). And they do deserve some compensation.

But I do have ill will now toward a lot of people on this thread who seem to be gleefully hoping the school closes down.

I have ill will towards all institutions who are complicit in and support the abuse of children, or anyone. I will own that. Because the children, not you, were the victims. For the record I also harbor ill will towards the Catholic Church, the board of the Weinstein Companies, Roger Ailes and the board at Fox, and every other institution that sat back or enabled abuse and crimes. But thanks to people like you and the genius who is mad at the families suing, now I'm wondering if the LAMB community should be indicted along with the board and administration. If you and your little friend are any indication, maybe so.

And yet if the school shuts down, won't it be children who lose out? Also, please explain how hoping the school does not shut down makes me a target of your negative assessment of the LAMB community.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like I need to jump in here, as a lawyer, and point out that just because someone asks for millions of dollars in a lawsuit, doesn’t mean that’s what their case is worth, nor does it mean that’s what they’re going to get. I think this case has merit, at least against Cristina and Diane, but I don’t think it’s worth millions of dollars.

I also think this case is going to settle. There’s no way these parents are going to want their children to endure depositions and trial testimony. The school is, I’m sure, also motivated to settle. This case, and those like it, can get resolved at some reasonable number.

How much, precisely, would you accept in exchange for molestation of your child? Only a lawyer...

When you get involved in litigation, and you’re paying legal fees, and your lawyer tells you that your case is likely to drag on for at least 3 years, that discovery and trial will be tough for your family, that your chance of success against the “deep pockets” is not great, that you probably won’t be able to collect against the individuals, that you could spend all this money on legal fees and then lose, and that your best outcome is probably $_______, you weigh your options and if you’re a rational actor, you settle. Litigation is terrible and soul sucking, even if you have a great case.

Litigator here too and I posted before. Likely to settle of course. The parents and lawyers know this. Deep pockets is the insurance company though it seems from the filing that they are targeting the individuals too. I am curious about the insurance company covering the employees and exactly how that is worded. With the filing I can't imagine the other parents/lawyers will sit by. Though many talk about the cost of litigation, with this filing info, the report and insurance it is pretty easy to get other families involved. While the parents don't want this to go to trial the defendants in no way want this to go to trial either.

The school's policy will no doubt cover each claim or cause of action up to a maximum, with an aggregate payout under the policy up to $X. What would make me nervous right now if I was a LAMB parent is how much aggregate coverage there is under the policy. I would expect every wronged family to come out and file similar suits. If the final amount ordered at trial(s) exceeds the coverage...ball game. It is also noteworthy that the filing pounds on gross negligence, willful misconduct and other very high thresholds. LAMB's policy should cover administrators in their individual capacities, but some polices exclude coverage for egregious behaviors. As someone disgusted by what these people did and did not do, I'd be quite content if LAMB came out of pocket for huge amounts to victims but survived, and the individuals were left out to pasture on their own.

How deep of pockets does LAMB (or any other DC charter school) have? LAMB owns one building that is subject to a mortgage; I don't know the amounts. To the extent it receives non-DC money (from foundations, etc.), I would expect the money is dolled out per a schedule (with no real commitment form the donor) and not survive bankruptcy -- which is also the end game for all the indiv, defendants.

Can knowledgeable lawyer person please respond here to all this speculation? Also, we already established that going to trial is not likely.

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Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

I have no ill will at all toward the families filing. Because I understand that they will not receive this amount, what they receive will be from insurance, and will not bring down the school by fact of this lawsuit (or shouldn't). And they do deserve some compensation.

But I do have ill will now toward a lot of people on this thread who seem to be gleefully hoping the school closes down.

I have ill will towards all institutions who are complicit in and support the abuse of children, or anyone. I will own that. Because the children, not you, were the victims. For the record I also harbor ill will towards the Catholic Church, the board of the Weinstein Companies, Roger Ailes and the board at Fox, and every other institution that sat back or enabled abuse and crimes. But thanks to people like you and the genius who is mad at the families suing, now I'm wondering if the LAMB community should be indicted along with the board and administration. If you and your little friend are any indication, maybe so.

And yet if the school shuts down, won't it be children who lose out? Also, please explain how hoping the school does not shut down makes me a target of your negative assessment of the LAMB community.

And yet if the school shuts down, won't it be children who lose out?

Also, please explain how hoping the school does not shut down makes me a target of your negative assessment of the LAMB community.

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Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

I have no ill will at all toward the families filing. Because I understand that they will not receive this amount, what they receive will be from insurance, and will not bring down the school by fact of this lawsuit (or shouldn't). And they do deserve some compensation.

But I do have ill will now toward a lot of people on this thread who seem to be gleefully hoping the school closes down.

I have ill will towards all institutions who are complicit in and support the abuse of children, or anyone. I will own that. Because the children, not you, were the victims. For the record I also harbor ill will towards the Catholic Church, the board of the Weinstein Companies, Roger Ailes and the board at Fox, and every other institution that sat back or enabled abuse and crimes. But thanks to people like you and the genius who is mad at the families suing, now I'm wondering if the LAMB community should be indicted along with the board and administration. If you and your little friend are any indication, maybe so.

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Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

I have no ill will at all toward the families filing. Because I understand that they will not receive this amount, what they receive will be from insurance, and will not bring down the school by fact of this lawsuit (or shouldn't). And they do deserve some compensation.

But I do have ill will now toward a lot of people on this thread who seem to be gleefully hoping the school closes down.

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Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).

I have no ill will at all toward the families filing. Because I understand that they will not receive this amount, what they receive will be from insurance, and will not bring down the school by fact of this lawsuit (or shouldn't). And they do deserve some compensation.

But I do have ill will now toward a lot of people on this thread who seem to be gleefully hoping the school closes down.

Anonymous wrote:As a LAMB parent, I am horrified by the negligence that occurred under the leadership of Diane C and Cristina E. At the same time, I can see how their judgment was clouded by personal relationships and inexperience with child molesters. That is why they should have had better protective policies in place, which they didn't. Again, negligence. It's awful. I feel so horrible for the victim families.

But to add to already strong emotions on the topic, I am now a little bit angry at the individuals who are suing the school. I realize that something horrible and unimaginably traumatic happened to their kids. It is awful.

But LAMB as an institution does so much good for the children that it serves in Washington DC. Why insist on suing for so much money that the school might go bankrupt and stop all of the good work that it does? (Recognizing again, that the school was a nightmare experience for those families).