Anonymous
11/25/2017 15:42
Subject: Re:Things rich people dont know
That a "raise" can be an extra $0.15 an hour. This was the raise I got in a retail job in college (went from $7.25 to $7.40). I was told I would get a raise at the end of my trial period, and with the glowing review I had, I expected a little more. I had to wait until the end of the semester to switch jobs, because I wouldn't have enough to live on if I spent a week training for another job (my parents could not afford to contribute to college at all). Also, that you often need credit to get certain jobs. I didn't apply for my first credit card until my Jr. year of college. I was too afraid of debt and didn't really understand how things worked. To work in retail, you had to have the store credit card, so they gave me one with a $100 credit limit. A few community college classmates told me that they were turned down for jobs at the same store because they didn't have credit (probably a white privilege moment for me). Fortunately, the waitressing job I got next payed my college living expenses quite nicely.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 15:07
Subject: Things rich people dont know
I am the poster who posted about water freezing in my room...I think we rural posters had it a lot better than poor city folks. If you have a little land and any sort of gumption you can raise enough to feed your family. We didn't have money but we always had food. I still grow enough stuff that I can be my own safety net if need be. My DH thinks that is quaint but when you come from nothing, that provides a sense of security. Also, I know how to fish and shoot, so I am good for the basics whatever happens. In a city you just can't do that.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 14:01
Subject: Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that it's difficult to eat well and healthily if you live in a food desert.
I HATE phrases like 'food desert'. People have feet.
So a single mom with kids is supposed to walk to the store (how many miles?). Does she use a stroller to push her kids or does she strap them to her back/front and have those 4+ walk? Because once she loads up on all that healthy, fresh food, she is “using her feet” to lug food and kids back to her home. The ignorance of this post is exactly the point.
I push three kids in a stroller 2 miles for groceries and tuck the groceries into the rack and a backpack
And I am sure that it is uphill both ways!
My 90-year-old grandmother was able to push her cart 1/2 mile to the grocery store and 1/2 mile back. She couldn't take too much, so she went at least 3x a week. She didn't drive and grew up in the Depression. To her, it was just business as usual.
+1 if it’s important to you, you’ll find a way. If not, you’ll find an excuse.
I wish I could take you on a field trip to truly rural areas. You have no idea.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 13:43
Subject: Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that it's difficult to eat well and healthily if you live in a food desert.
I HATE phrases like 'food desert'. People have feet.
So a single mom with kids is supposed to walk to the store (how many miles?). Does she use a stroller to push her kids or does she strap them to her back/front and have those 4+ walk? Because once she loads up on all that healthy, fresh food, she is “using her feet” to lug food and kids back to her home. The ignorance of this post is exactly the point.
I push three kids in a stroller 2 miles for groceries and tuck the groceries into the rack and a backpack
And I am sure that it is uphill both ways!
No. It is pretty flat. I walk from the edge of Ballston to Trader Joe's and Whole Foods in Clarendon. Many areas in the Metro area do not require pushing strollers uphill. Are food deserts only in hilly areas?
I can just imagine you in your Lululemon and your Uppababy running to Whole Foods so that you can get a few more steps on your Fitbit and picking up a few bottles of Kombucha and ingredients for dinner. That is exactly the same as walking out of the core of a city through dangerous areas into an unfamiliar neighborhood to shop at the store that you can't even afford.
I live in what is supposedly an inner city food desert. It is such BS. There are multiple well stocked grocery stores within a short walk, and if you are too lazy to walk, there are public buses, and if you are below the poverty line you can get a subsidy to ride the bus. We also have a large community organization that distributes fresh produce for free. Yet we routinely show up on the map as a "food desert" as decreed by people who don't live here, and who apparently consider a lack of a Whole Foods to be a severe handicap. And the people who live in "bad" neighborhoods actually are not scared to walk around in them. White liberals think of those neighborhoods as terrifying, but to those of us who live here, it's home. Poor folks have lots of problems but they are not morons, they can figure out how to get to a grocery store that's a mile away.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 13:19
Subject: Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of the posts on this board are of people observing how poor people live. What I want rich people to know is that you still don't KNOW what it's like to be poor.
Do you keep the house warm sometimes by opening the oven?
Do you open the refrigerator to make lunch for school and see a jar of jelly and ketchup and that's it?
Do you count out you quarters at the laundry mat and try to arrange the loads so you have enough left for a soda?
Did your mother send you to the local store to cash a check, not going herself because she knew it would bounce?
If you look at me now you'd see a blonde woman who speaks perfectly and dresses well. You may think that I grew up "rich", because I look and act the part.
I want you to know I walk the line between wealthy and poor- I don't fit in either category but I can relate to both.
Tons of people are like this. Including me. I didn't grow up rich. Big deal.
Plus 1. I don't get this thread. I was from a poor dysfunctional family. Now I am successful and have a good life because I worked hard to get it. Stop with the white privilege crap. I am black and had to work harder.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 13:16
Subject: Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that it's difficult to eat well and healthily if you live in a food desert.
I HATE phrases like 'food desert'. People have feet.
So a single mom with kids is supposed to walk to the store (how many miles?). Does she use a stroller to push her kids or does she strap them to her back/front and have those 4+ walk? Because once she loads up on all that healthy, fresh food, she is “using her feet” to lug food and kids back to her home. The ignorance of this post is exactly the point.
I push three kids in a stroller 2 miles for groceries and tuck the groceries into the rack and a backpack
And I am sure that it is uphill both ways!
No. It is pretty flat. I walk from the edge of Ballston to Trader Joe's and Whole Foods in Clarendon. Many areas in the Metro area do not require pushing strollers uphill. Are food deserts only in hilly areas?
I can just imagine you in your Lululemon and your Uppababy running to Whole Foods so that you can get a few more steps on your Fitbit and picking up a few bottles of Kombucha and ingredients for dinner. That is exactly the same as walking out of the core of a city through dangerous areas into an unfamiliar neighborhood to shop at the store that you can't even afford.
I'm a nurses aid and take care of the elderly in their homes and wear a uniform. . I do this so two of my kids who aren't in school can come to work with me. My employers know this is a condition of employment. I live in a 2 bed APAH apartment and don't have a car so we walk to work but it is closer. I pick up my son from school and the four of us walk two or three times a week to get some groceries. I use those two stores because people give me gift cards to them. The rest of the time, I go with a neighbor to Shoppers. sorry I'm not poor enough for you. I was just saying that people do walk to stores with kids in strollers.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 12:53
Subject: Re:Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that meritocracy is a myth.
I know a lot of very smart, very hardworking young people who will never achieve as much as they deserve to, and many wealthy and entitled young people who will be given jobs just for breathing and occupying space.
This times one million!
Rich people have zero idea how easy they have it in most aspects of life.
You just described white privilege too.
All of this. I’m white and I didn’t grow up poor but I also did not grow up rich like the kids and now adults that I’m surrounded by where i live in Bethesda. I’m fortunate that my parents worked hard and made sacrifices for our family, and that I got to go to college (with loans) and post-grad (with loans). At first I didn’t understand why all these people send their kids to private school when we have crazy good public schools, and then I realized it’s (for most people I know, I realize there are exceptions so sorry to generalize) just one way of paving the golden road for these kids. Surround yourself with other rich kids with rich parents and already you’ve built a network where people will just hand you stuff based on your rich people network and social status. Also one of my friends that grew up around here asked me where my family’s vacation home is like, of course everyone has one. She also just couldn’t relate to the fact that I had a job starting at age 13 (not including all the babysittting I did before that) and also worked, not vacationed, during the summers.
I was with you until that part. I do not comprehend that grown adults think anyone hands anyone else stuff.
Look at our "First Family".
Anonymous
11/25/2017 11:06
Subject: Re:Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that meritocracy is a myth.
I know a lot of very smart, very hardworking young people who will never achieve as much as they deserve to, and many wealthy and entitled young people who will be given jobs just for breathing and occupying space.
This times one million!
Rich people have zero idea how easy they have it in most aspects of life.
You just described white privilege too.
All of this. I’m white and I didn’t grow up poor but I also did not grow up rich like the kids and now adults that I’m surrounded by where i live in Bethesda. I’m fortunate that my parents worked hard and made sacrifices for our family, and that I got to go to college (with loans) and post-grad (with loans). At first I didn’t understand why all these people send their kids to private school when we have crazy good public schools, and then I realized it’s (for most people I know, I realize there are exceptions so sorry to generalize) just one way of paving the golden road for these kids. Surround yourself with other rich kids with rich parents and already you’ve built a network where people will just hand you stuff based on your rich people network and social status. Also one of my friends that grew up around here asked me where my family’s vacation home is like, of course everyone has one. She also just couldn’t relate to the fact that I had a job starting at age 13 (not including all the babysittting I did before that) and also worked, not vacationed, during the summers.
I was with you until that part. I do not comprehend that grown adults think anyone hands anyone else stuff.
A lot of people get high paying positions (qualified or not) based on their network and connections.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 10:37
Subject: Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Many of the posts on this board are of people observing how poor people live. What I want rich people to know is that you still don't KNOW what it's like to be poor.
Do you keep the house warm sometimes by opening the oven?
Do you open the refrigerator to make lunch for school and see a jar of jelly and ketchup and that's it?
Do you count out you quarters at the laundry mat and try to arrange the loads so you have enough left for a soda?
Did your mother send you to the local store to cash a check, not going herself because she knew it would bounce?
If you look at me now you'd see a blonde woman who speaks perfectly and dresses well. You may think that I grew up "rich", because I look and act the part.
I want you to know I walk the line between wealthy and poor- I don't fit in either category but I can relate to both.
Tons of people are like this. Including me. I didn't grow up rich. Big deal.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 10:31
Subject: Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that it's difficult to eat well and healthily if you live in a food desert.
I HATE phrases like 'food desert'. People have feet.
So a single mom with kids is supposed to walk to the store (how many miles?). Does she use a stroller to push her kids or does she strap them to her back/front and have those 4+ walk? Because once she loads up on all that healthy, fresh food, she is “using her feet” to lug food and kids back to her home. The ignorance of this post is exactly the point.
I push three kids in a stroller 2 miles for groceries and tuck the groceries into the rack and a backpack
And I am sure that it is uphill both ways!
My 90-year-old grandmother was able to push her cart 1/2 mile to the grocery store and 1/2 mile back. She couldn't take too much, so she went at least 3x a week. She didn't drive and grew up in the Depression. To her, it was just business as usual.
+1
There are poor people who accept their lot and instead of begrudging other people, do what they have to do to get ahead - without complaining or feeling entitlement - a big concept, I know.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 10:29
Subject: Re:Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that meritocracy is a myth.
I know a lot of very smart, very hardworking young people who will never achieve as much as they deserve to, and many wealthy and entitled young people who will be given jobs just for breathing and occupying space.
This times one million!
Rich people have zero idea how easy they have it in most aspects of life.
You just described white privilege too.
All of this. I’m white and I didn’t grow up poor but I also did not grow up rich like the kids and now adults that I’m surrounded by where i live in Bethesda. I’m fortunate that my parents worked hard and made sacrifices for our family, and that I got to go to college (with loans) and post-grad (with loans). At first I didn’t understand why all these people send their kids to private school when we have crazy good public schools, and then I realized it’s (for most people I know, I realize there are exceptions so sorry to generalize) just one way of paving the golden road for these kids. Surround yourself with other rich kids with rich parents and already you’ve built a network where people will just hand you stuff based on your rich people network and social status. Also one of my friends that grew up around here asked me where my family’s vacation home is like, of course everyone has one. She also just couldn’t relate to the fact that I had a job starting at age 13 (not including all the babysittting I did before that) and also worked, not vacationed, during the summers.
I was with you until that part. I do not comprehend that grown adults think anyone hands anyone else stuff.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 10:20
Subject: Re:Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that meritocracy is a myth.
I know a lot of very smart, very hardworking young people who will never achieve as much as they deserve to, and many wealthy and entitled young people who will be given jobs just for breathing and occupying space.
This times one million!
Rich people have zero idea how easy they have it in most aspects of life.
You just described white privilege too.
All of this. I’m white and I didn’t grow up poor but I also did not grow up rich like the kids and now adults that I’m surrounded by where i live in Bethesda. I’m fortunate that my parents worked hard and made sacrifices for our family, and that I got to go to college (with loans) and post-grad (with loans). At first I didn’t understand why all these people send their kids to private school when we have crazy good public schools, and then I realized it’s (for most people I know, I realize there are exceptions so sorry to generalize) just one way of paving the golden road for these kids. Surround yourself with other rich kids with rich parents and already you’ve built a network where people will just hand you stuff based on your rich people network and social status. Also one of my friends that grew up around here asked me where my family’s vacation home is like, of course everyone has one. She also just couldn’t relate to the fact that I had a job starting at age 13 (not including all the babysittting I did before that) and also worked, not vacationed, during the summers.
Look at the US presidents that use private schools instead of public for their children and yet are against the school voucher program....
Presidents do not have the choice of where to live.
No, they don't...so what exactly is the problem with using the public schools there, then? Many people using the public schools there also don't exactly have several choices in housing and use the public schools.
For the First Family kids it was more a security issue than a school issue.
Ha! You don't think the US President's staff could handle any security issues? Amy Carter attended DC public schools.
40 years ago.
Pres. Obama's remarks st Grorgetown:
"And what’s happened in our economy is that those who are doing better and better -- more skilled, more educated, luckier, having greater advantages
-- are withdrawing from sort of the commons -- kids start going to private schools; kids start working out at private clubs instead of the public parks. An anti-government ideology then disinvests from those common goods and those things that draw us together. And that, in part, contributes to the fact that there’s less opportunity for our kids, all of our kids."
Anonymous
11/25/2017 10:13
Subject: Re:Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that meritocracy is a myth.
I know a lot of very smart, very hardworking young people who will never achieve as much as they deserve to, and many wealthy and entitled young people who will be given jobs just for breathing and occupying space.
This times one million!
Rich people have zero idea how easy they have it in most aspects of life.
You just described white privilege too.
All of this. I’m white and I didn’t grow up poor but I also did not grow up rich like the kids and now adults that I’m surrounded by where i live in Bethesda. I’m fortunate that my parents worked hard and made sacrifices for our family, and that I got to go to college (with loans) and post-grad (with loans). At first I didn’t understand why all these people send their kids to private school when we have crazy good public schools, and then I realized it’s (for most people I know, I realize there are exceptions so sorry to generalize) just one way of paving the golden road for these kids. Surround yourself with other rich kids with rich parents and already you’ve built a network where people will just hand you stuff based on your rich people network and social status. Also one of my friends that grew up around here asked me where my family’s vacation home is like, of course everyone has one. She also just couldn’t relate to the fact that I had a job starting at age 13 (not including all the babysittting I did before that) and also worked, not vacationed, during the summers.
Look at the US presidents that use private schools instead of public for their children and yet are against the school voucher program....
Presidents do not have the choice of where to live.
No, they don't...so what exactly is the problem with using the public schools there, then? Many people using the public schools there also don't exactly have several choices in housing and use the public schools.
For the First Family kids it was more a security issue than a school issue.
Ha! You don't think the US President's staff could handle any security issues? Amy Carter attended DC public schools.
40 years ago.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 10:08
Subject: Re:Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that meritocracy is a myth.
I know a lot of very smart, very hardworking young people who will never achieve as much as they deserve to, and many wealthy and entitled young people who will be given jobs just for breathing and occupying space.
This times one million!
Rich people have zero idea how easy they have it in most aspects of life.
You just described white privilege too.
All of this. I’m white and I didn’t grow up poor but I also did not grow up rich like the kids and now adults that I’m surrounded by where i live in Bethesda. I’m fortunate that my parents worked hard and made sacrifices for our family, and that I got to go to college (with loans) and post-grad (with loans). At first I didn’t understand why all these people send their kids to private school when we have crazy good public schools, and then I realized it’s (for most people I know, I realize there are exceptions so sorry to generalize) just one way of paving the golden road for these kids. Surround yourself with other rich kids with rich parents and already you’ve built a network where people will just hand you stuff based on your rich people network and social status. Also one of my friends that grew up around here asked me where my family’s vacation home is like, of course everyone has one. She also just couldn’t relate to the fact that I had a job starting at age 13 (not including all the babysittting I did before that) and also worked, not vacationed, during the summers.
Look at the US presidents that use private schools instead of public for their children and yet are against the school voucher program....
Presidents do not have the choice of where to live.
No, they don't...so what exactly is the problem with using the public schools there, then? Many people using the public schools there also don't exactly have several choices in housing and use the public schools.
For the First Family kids it was more a security issue than a school issue.
Ha! You don't think the US President's staff could handle any security issues? Amy Carter attended DC public schools.
Anonymous
11/25/2017 09:38
Subject: Things rich people dont know
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rich people don't know that it's difficult to eat well and healthily if you live in a food desert.
I HATE phrases like 'food desert'. People have feet.
So a single mom with kids is supposed to walk to the store (how many miles?). Does she use a stroller to push her kids or does she strap them to her back/front and have those 4+ walk? Because once she loads up on all that healthy, fresh food, she is “using her feet” to lug food and kids back to her home. The ignorance of this post is exactly the point.
I push three kids in a stroller 2 miles for groceries and tuck the groceries into the rack and a backpack
And I am sure that it is uphill both ways!
No. It is pretty flat. I walk from the edge of Ballston to Trader Joe's and Whole Foods in Clarendon. Many areas in the Metro area do not require pushing strollers uphill. Are food deserts only in hilly areas?
I can just imagine you in your Lululemon and your Uppababy running to Whole Foods so that you can get a few more steps on your Fitbit and picking up a few bottles of Kombucha and ingredients for dinner. That is exactly the same as walking out of the core of a city through dangerous areas into an unfamiliar neighborhood to shop at the store that you can't even afford.
Yep. And will be looked at sideways when they get there. Like "what are you people doing in here?"